Super Joystick diagonals too sensitive

[thewmster]

First of all, just wanted to say this forum has helped me in many ways to get my cab up and running. Usually I have been able to find answers to my questions just by searching. But, I need some input for this small problem.

I have some Happ Super Joysticks in my cab and the diagonals are way too sensitive. One of the most played games on my cab is Little League Baseball for the NES. It is very annoying to get a groundball and attempt to throw to first, but the kid decides to throw home instead because the diagonal is activated instead of just the right direction. Many a beer has been spilt due to this boneheaded play. Searching the forums, I have seen that one suggestion is to bend the contact on the switch. Before take the pliers to the switch, I just wanted to know if this is a good idea and how effective it is. Also, any other ideas?

[Ginsu Victim]

Maybe check out the joystick round-up from Retroblast and see what works best for your needs:
http://retroblast.arcadecontrols.com/hardware.html

You might consider trying the Happ Comp or IL Euro sticks.

Of course, the best fix is to buy Ultimarc's Ultrastik 360s (U360). Worth the price tag.

[isucamper]

I too would like to hear about a good home remedy for this problem.

It happens on my Happ Mechanical Rotaries (I think these are based off of supers)... and I don't have any other options other than to mod the stick somehow.

Basically, the joystick actuator rests right on the switches, and barely moving them in any direction is enough to engage the switch.  I tried filing down the actuator a bit, but it didn't help much. 

[Beretta]

nice reviews on that site, it looks like the happ comp's are my best fit.

i actually already have several of these from different cab's i've bought so i'll try'em out on my project.. 2 of them are like new.

one thing i noticed (without yet testing it) was taht i wish they was

a little higher
a little stiffer spring, i dont wanna fight the joystick but i like to feel some resistance.
wish it had a bit more travel, and i wish it did'nt engage as quckly..

but it appears those will be the best off the shelf sticks for my personal taste.

btw what sticks was used in the original dedicated mortal kombat cabinets? those was nice sticks.. the comps feel "close" to them, but not quite, something off.

[Ginsu Victim]

btw what sticks was used in the original dedicated mortal kombat cabinets? those was nice sticks.. the comps feel "close" to them, but not quite, something off.

I think they were Happ Supers. Not positive. One of our MK nuts will show up with the correct answer soon enough....

[mwong168]

Have you considered this modification part you can buy from Randy at groovygamegear.com?


http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=71&products_id=310

Another GroovyGameGear Innovation! Use this little "gem" to turn your IL / HAPP SUPER Joystick into a true, physically-restricted 4-way.

    * Simple installation. Included hardware allows mounting to existing holes in joystick body.
    * Precision LASER fabrication.
    * Provides longer throw 4-way operation than mechanically switchable joysticks can provide.
    * Engineered to give tight break-to-make switch operation.
    * Available as a pre-installed option on HAPP SUPER joysticks sold through GroovyGameGear or as a DIY item.

I haven't hooked up my Happ Super joystick yet but I can already feel I will have this problem so I am going to be placing an order soon for this restrictor plate and a few other goodies for my build.

[thewmster]

Maybe check out the joystick round-up from Retroblast and see what works best for your needs:
http://retroblast.arcadecontrols.com/hardware.html

You might consider trying the Happ Comp or IL Euro sticks.

Of course, the best fix is to buy Ultimarc's Ultrastik 360s (U360). Worth the price tag.

Thanks for the link. Should have definitely checked that out before I bought my controls. I should have just bitten the bullet and gotten the U360s. That will probably be the route I take once I finish out my cab. Until then, I am looking for a "quick fix" solution.

Have you considered this modification part you can buy from Randy at groovygamegear.com?

I still want 8-way control, I just don't want to be hitting down-right when I try to press right, and so forth. Maybe an octagonal restrictor may be the way to go though.

[Ginsu Victim]

There are no octagonal restrictors for the Super.

[thewmster]

There are no octagonal restrictors for the Super.

Well, there goes that idea. Thanks for getting back before I went on a wild goose chase.

[ahofle]

I wish Randy would make a slightly rounded octagonal restrictor for the super.  I love everything else about that joystick except for the slightly non-precise diagonal activation.

One thing you could possibly try... turn the little activator upside down (so it's in 4 way mode) and then wrap some good strong tape around it until you get to the activation point you want. 

[thewmster]

One thing you could possibly try... turn the little activator upside down (so it's in 4 way mode) and then wrap some good strong tape around it until you get to the activation point you want. 

That is precisely the type of quick fix I was looking for. Can't believe I hadn't thought of that. Definately gonna try that when I get home from work. Thanks.

[RandyT]

I wish Randy would make a slightly rounded octagonal restrictor for the super. 

Granted??

.

[dirkomatic]

Ok!

When can we buy these?

[ahofle]

I wish Randy would make a slightly rounded octagonal restrictor for the super. 

Granted??

 
Please let us know when they are available.

[thewmster]

@RandyT: That would be perfection.

[MaximRecoil]

btw what sticks was used in the original dedicated mortal kombat cabinets? those was nice sticks.. the comps feel "close" to them, but not quite, something off.

Happ Ultimates, or so I've heard.

[warham]

I have these adapters from Groovy and they are awsome!!!

[JustMichael]

thewmster, If I remember correctly the Super has an hourglass shaped piece of plastic at the bottom.  This hourglass plastic has a big end and a small end.  Have you tried flipping this piece upside down to see if that will make ithe joystick less "sensitive" for you?

[kowal]

Hi
Yes super have 2 position actuator for 4-way (no true mode but work) and 8-way 
first old Super have square restrictor