Help on panel interface.

[xeno-kaneda]

First of all hello everyone and please apologize for my English.

This is my first post and I already ask for help 
I have read many post and many site looking for help on that but to be really honnest I didn't find many things except this post  http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51353.0 and the official documentation http://www.groovygamegear.com/PDF/MLED-WizManual.pdf

I have planned to make a mamecab, I have no problem with woodworking, painting, software but I must recognize it, I am not very skilled with electronic (and also technical english documentation  )

So I just need a few help/advice on wiring/design control panel.

First of all before reading my long and boring explanation, my target is to do that (I need less button than he got) in this post : http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=72753.0

Unfortunately, he didn't give information on the wiring  and I promess, if I reach my target I will do a "light wiring for dummy's <like me>" post 

I am planning to have a 2 player panel with 2 8ways joysticks, 8 lighted buttons per user, start (1/2), coin (1/2), lighted trackball, mouse1/2 buttons and it seems that admin buttons is a good idea (tab, pause, menu, vol+/- any other suggestion will be appreciate)

I want to RGB lighted the 8 buttons and the trackball, if i totally understand, that means that I need 8*3 = 24 output + 3  for the trackball so I need 27 output for the LED which means that an 32 outputs lighting from GGG will be enough.
First question can I wired button and LED in the same GGG (ie : button 1 on output 1 and RGB on output 1/2/3) for me it makes no sens but maybe am wrong ?
Other thing, is that true that if I want to light up the 8 buttons in the same way I can wired them together (like button1 p1 led on 1/2/3 and button 1 p2 led on 1/2/3) ?

Instead of that for buttons, and joystick I need another interface, is it possible to melt I-Pac and Led Wizz ?

Thank you for reading me if anything isn't clear or need precision I will be glad to help you helping me 

[BobA]

cp
- slikstik quad 'blank'
- happ buttons for start + coin + 'admin', black color
- 4 x ultimarc ultrastik 360
- 7 x action buttons per player
  ggg electric ice buttons
  ggg rgb led boards
  ggg 'micro-leaf' switches
- 4 x ggg ledwiz
- ggg turbo twist 2 usb spinner w/ black knob + flywheel
- ggg ice-t trackball (usb betson imperial 3" w/ rgb led)
- ultimarc ipac for admin/knob/coin buttons


CP is basically in a finished state at this point.   
200+ frickin wires that had to be run and all....

4 U360 w/ 7 buttons connected each,
4 LED Wiz,
28 RGB LEDs on the buttons + micro-leaf switches,
GGG ICE-T 3" TB w/ RGB LED,
GGG spinner,
Admin buttons w/ cherry switches on an IPAC-2,
etc.

All the detail on items used for the control panel are in the 2 lists above.   
The two lists are basically the same but have a bit different detail.
For example 4 ultimarc ultrastik 360 with 7 buttons per player connected via the harness to the ultrastik.

All the wiring info you need are on the GGG site and the Ultimarc site.   You just have to apply the
wiring info given for the different parts.

The ggg rgb led boards are wired to the ggg ledwizs.
The player buttons are wired to the ultimarc 360 ultrastiks
The admin buttons are wired to a ipac 2

Etc Etc.

"First question can I wired button and LED in the same GGG (ie : button 1 on output 1 and RGB on output 1/2/3)
 for me it makes no sens but maybe am wrong ?"

Button 1 takes only 3 wires and a ground to work with the outputs 1/2/3
The RGB led gives all levels and colors available for button 1.  Another LED is not required.

"Other thing, is that true that if I want to light up the 8 buttons in the same way I can wired them together
(like button1 p1 led on 1/2/3 and button 1 p2 led on 1/2/3) ?"

Info from GGG on ledwiz

up to about 500 Hi-Output LEDs per board (15+ per output, external power source required for this type of operation)

So yes you can light 8 buttons the same way by putting them on the same output but an external supply is required.
This however does not allow you to light them up individually.

"is it possible to melt I-Pac and Led Wizz ?"

Do not understand this question.... Do you want to melt the boards?  anything will melt if hot enough.

Do you want to use the boards together?   Yes Ipac and LEDWiz can be used together.