1980's Atari Pole Position PC mod

[DaMulta]

Project Logs

[/U] Work in progress ideas are more than welcome.


I would like to say thanks to Cyber who got me out working on this old box.

First off it was well buried LOL

And need to get all the guts out of course before I can even start thinking about how to do what inside.

    

    



    

Door rads should fit right on, or anything else I might want to install

    

I could rig these up to an old controller for racing games....thinking about it


Money box is being a pain to remove
    

All this has to come out
    

Monitor 4 screws and it popped out VERY EASY steering well and gear ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- also the same way.
    

Old school Hmmm could replace with new

    

Test fit with a 24'' lcd might use a 19 for this dont know yet....
    


More to come first day

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latest updates
03-16-2009, 03:16 PM


A little help from old tires LOL

    
Cut me a hole

    
 
   

    
Sub fits JUST RIGHT!!

In between the cubit is a channel for speaker wire/ echo for bass
    

    

Going to keep the original outside as much as possible. Still debating it, but I think it's the right idea.....

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03-16-2009, 08:30 PM
Installed
    

Space
    

wires to front
    

Hmmm on top
    


LET ME JUST SAY OMG

OMG

and OMG

IT POUNDS HARD

Really I have never hear that 5.1 system sound so good. I'm highly impressed with this old cabinet so far.
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03-30-2009, 03:31 AM

Ok funds have been slowing this down....


Plans

I am painting it black. Old school is going out the window.

Now I want to make this a AMD Machine. I'm thinking of Ruby on the back, and a spider on the side. I want some kind of window to look into the machine to see the hardware, and thinking of making a giant falling rez ontop of the machine....

Also I would like to find some PCI-E ribbon extenders for this mod.

OR

AMD in a 2 level res one to trace out AMD and behind it the other color to balance out the logo.


I'm thinking of having a sticker made IDK....or drawing it in some fashion....


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Old  04-02-2009, 09:26 PM
Found some cash to buy a can of paint today.....only did one side so far.

Speaker cables I was talking about are the rear.....

Anyways as you can see it's going to have to be sanded down from the primer paint.

    
    
The bubbles are from the duck tape that I thought I had removed....
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Update
04-14-2009

    
My lights for running boards:)

I think they are going to work great
    
The new 24'' LCD installed
    

in action
    
From behind
    
PS3 test machine


Someone told me that I should post my build here. I have had a log going on here
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=86827

Let me say that FEAR 2 is SCARY AS #@!%! in this thing LOL

Black lament and then having some professional stickers made(I'm going for an AMD look) seems the best way to do the doors in my head now. I do want to cut out a section on the wall so that you can see the PC inside.

I just don't want it right next to the wall. More or less a tunnel look into it in the center. IDK I'll have to work it out.

There is much more in my build log, and I will look and answer this thread just as much. Any ideas are more than welcome. This mod is taking me some time due to low funds ATM which should be ending soon.

[ivwshane]

Man I wish I had more space for a driving cab!


Looking good!

[SavannahLion]

[DaMulta]

What's the face drop for?

What I did to this machine ?LOL

[RayB]

You had classic original artwork in decent condition and thought painting it black was an improvement. 

[DaMulta]

You had classic original artwork in decent condition and thought painting it black was an improvement. 

You don't realize how many other machines there are(MORE RARE THAN THIS ONE)...My dad used to run a arcade business in the 80's

I'm not done yet....I'm going to have some stickers made to match what I'm going to do to it.

[RayB]

Help us out then, there's a whole "Arcade" sub-forum here with people looking for original cabinets and parts. 

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=collapse;c=8;sa=expand#8

[HaRuMaN]

 

[Silhouette]

why would you do this

[Keroppi]

Going to keep the original outside as much as possible:

...fail.

[pinballwizard79]

WTF is this?

[thatpurplestuff]

I totally respect your enthusiasm for this project and it is clear that you're wanting to build a sweet gaming setup.  That being said, I've gotta agree with the general sentiment here and say that I cringed when I saw pics of an original Pole Position cab in pretty good condition getting gutted and painted all black.  I am a bigger video game nerd than I thought, since I actually got sad while seeing some of those pics.  Anyway, good luck with the build and hopefully you'll make it worth it in the end.  To each his own!

[DaMulta]

So here is the backboard

    

The original speakers are gone....They mounted on more or less backwards from what normal speakers mount like. I had to make room for the new ones to fit in this manor

    

My trace

    

My not so perfect cut

    

    

A little off but you can't see it, and I don't think it will really matter

    

    

You can only see threw the grills with the flash.

    

So in my world what I did works


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I love when people say fail to something that is a work in progress.

kind of like my white 790i motherboard.


Which turned out great because the whole board glowed

sadly I killed the board swapping out CPUS I bend and broke 3 pins......O well

Next week the sides will look a lot better! With the lament installed, then I need to find someone to make me a Dragon sticker to slap on it.

    

Something like that but not that.

[escher]

I love when people say fail to something that is a work in progress.

I'm pretty sure the "Fail" comments have nothing to do with how your project will turn out.  They're made because you destroyed a good quality Pole Position cab.

[CheffoJeffo]

 

[SavannahLion]

 

A modification of a well known quote:

(He was) so preoccupied with whether or not (he) could, (he) didn't stop to think if (he) should.

Or as a girl I had a crush on once said about ten years prior:

Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't actually make it a good idea.

If I had known there was a sit down Pole Position, I would have gladly bought the $75 sit down After Burner on CL and sent it to them as a straight trade.

[CheffoJeffo]

I'm not so broken up over the death of the PP cab as there are more cabs than boards out there and the boardsets are a real PITA to keep running.

If Dad was an op, then he is probably less attached to cabs in good condition than we are (although I think it is safe to say that we *do* realize how many other cabs there are that are more rare  ).

I think ricing it out is a little much, but hopefully he will end up with a result that pleases him.

[DaMulta]

More rare to be is Black and White games, or games as Jack and the Magic Bean Stock, StarWars..blablabal and more

Anyways

infinity speakers in the back = win

a lot of win! I wish I had two more for the front.....but I don't:(

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Playing Fear 2 in this box is way better than the original game anyways:p and the game that I AM SAVING is Tron! My sis has one of the SNK games before NEO-GEO, and a few others in working order in her personal bar behind her house.
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My plan is to make this into a giant AMD PC to take to Lans. That's why the original art work had to go! Believe me I thought about it long and hard!

[Gatsu]

I can understand some of the sentiments on here about covering up the original art and whatnot. But its his cab. He's doing what he wants for his particular project.

I think it'll be a cool cab once its all finished. Hopefully you'll be able to pull off what you want for the project.

[Malenko]

if hes posting here he should be expecting feedback; and there's nothing wrong with not liking the fact he killed a sit down pole position. And he did fail at keeping the outside looking as stock as possible. Unless hes going to strip the black paint he put on it, repaint it white/laminate it, then put NOS/Repro art on it, its going to stay in failed state.

the black paint looks like ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- and the red lights make it look worse (didnt think it was possible) Restoring a Tron doesn't give you the right to think what you did to the SD-PP is acceptable. Hope you like your final product, and just because YOU do doesn't mean WE will. kk thnx bai

[Gatsu]

no need to be an ass about it either though.

[DaMulta]

if hes posting here he should be expecting feedback; and there's nothing wrong with not liking the fact he killed a sit down pole position. And he did fail at keeping the outside looking as stock as possible. Unless hes going to strip the black paint he put on it, repaint it white/laminate it, then put NOS/Repro art on it, its going to stay in failed state.

the black paint looks like ---Cleveland steamer--- and the red lights make it look worse (didnt think it was possible) Restoring a Tron doesn't give you the right to think what you did to the SD-PP is acceptable. Hope you like your final product, and just because YOU do doesn't mean WE will. kk thnx bai

The black paint was primer, but I am going to get some laminate tomorrow. Paint was just the first way I was going to go untill I releaed that the sticker on the Cab is more than one level, and painting it would be a big PAIN! Then I'm going to start hunting down someone to photoshop me a Dragon to go across the side, but well I would like to install the doors on it first before having that sticker even being made.

I really thought about it before I started, and yes I cried a little when I did it.....

I'm going to get some lawn Chair fabric also to install inside the cab, and the lights will go around that. I just kind of threw them in to see what they would look like inside.

I hope I do pull it off and a lot of people like it in the end.



I did except the bad feedback from doing it:) Also it's part of a project log when it's a work in progress. I used to restore natural gas comprossers for a living(just for example) They would come in just looking like total ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, and in the end after  a month or so they would leave looking new again.

Good things take time, and I have had little funds for this.

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Tonight when the new AMD 955 is released I'm ordering that, and a GD70FX for the hardware that will be used inside to run the system,

[GAJoe]

I converted a gutted Venture cabinet to Mr. Do! MAME myself, but the original artwork was long gone.  I'm not a bleeding heart for every old cabinet, but when I saw that you painted it black I actually involuntarily yelled, "Nooo!" outloud. I thought you were going to restore it to a Pole Position with MAME under the hood, so it caught me off guard.  Do you have something against classic 80s arcade artwork?

[DaMulta]

I converted a gutted Venture cabinet to Mr. Do! MAME myself, but the original artwork was long gone.  I'm not a bleeding heart for every old cabinet, but when I saw that you painted it black I actually involuntarily yelled, "Nooo!" outloud. I thought you were going to restore it to a Pole Position with MAME under the hood, so it caught me off guard.  Do you have something against classic 80s arcade artwork?

NO I don't have anything against classic 80s arcade artwork. My mom took a look and said I should do the sides with the dragon like planned, but keep the back orignal to know where it came from. I have no plans to run mame under the hood. All it needed was a new power supply and it would of worked. The problem is that these old games are a pain in the ass to keep running, plus I waned to play other games in it.

We have been playing PS3 in 1080p non stop in it for the past few days lol......

[TOK]

Well, at least your mom didn't tell you to paint flowers and unicorns on it.

[Silas (son of Silas)]

...My mom took a look and said...

Ah... That perhaps throws some light as to why you did this. If you are young enough that your mom's opinion still influences you enough to make you paint your cab black then I would guess you are also young enough to not realize the significance of what you have permanently  done to this cab.

It's your cab, so hey, do what you like to it (like you need me to say that?) but don't be surprised if people don't share your tastes. That's what makes this an interesting place; we all have different tastes and opinions.

The problem is that these old games are a pain in the ass to keep running, plus I waned to play other games in it.

Well... yes thats true. an old cab can be tricky to bring back to life and keep it running. Perhaps this isn't the best audience to air that particular train of thought tho'? For many of us, that's the part of the hobby that attracts us to it; like car enthusiast who derive equal pleasure from restoring cars as they do driving them.

By the way.... Hello everyone this is my first post. I was just lurking until I had some pics of my MAME cab project I am building ready for posting.

Silas 

[RayB]

Darn kids these days!   

Get off CheffoJeffo's lawn!

[Barry Barcrest]

I'm not so broken up over the death of the PP cab as there are more cabs than boards out there and the boardsets are a real PITA to keep running.

This is true, but are you including sit down pole positions in that? I'm not sure how rare they are but that one looked in good condition. It's not the maming that bothers me it's the fact he just painted it black and thinks that it's an improvment when it quite clearly isn't. Then he doesn't get it when people say FAIL.....

Bah, wht so i know i'm off to play my marble madness on my black painted, mamed missle command 

[Silas (son of Silas)]

I just smiled to myself.

I wonder if this cab will be back on this forum in years to come under new ownership as an amazing restoration thread that we all follow in awe as some skilled artisan meticulously removes the black paint, carefully fills in the holes and we will all stand back in amazement at the transformation?

[M.Lanza]

I don't see a problem with it.

If someone were to bastardize a mint radarscope, mario bros., or popeye,
by converting it into a donkey kong, they would be hailed on this forum as a hero.

[escher]

If someone were to bastardize a mint radarscope, mario bros., or popeye,
by converting it into a donkey kong, they would be hailed on this forum as a hero.

Not sure where you're coming up with that one...

[TOK]

I don't see a problem with it.

If someone were to bastardize a mint radarscope, mario bros., or popeye,
by converting it into a donkey kong, they would be hailed on this forum as a hero.

I don't agree with what you're saying at all, but swapping a board, marquee, bezel and to do the conversion you're talking about is a far cry from whats happening here, anyway.

[Boz]

If someone were to bastardize a mint radarscope, mario bros., or popeye,
by converting it into a donkey kong, they would be hailed on this forum as a hero.

No... they'd still be called an idiot just like this guy.


Ignorance is not bliss -- ignorance is ignorance.

[GAJoe]

Name calling isn't going to restore the cabinet.  It's sad to see the sideart go, but who are we to call him names and judge him for doing what he wants with his own property?  It could be worse.  At least he didn't try to MAME a working, mint condition Smash TV and put pink, fluffy clouds on the side of it.

On the subject of Pole Position being hard to work on, I can attest to that having seen piles of fried out PP boards in the workshop of a dealer for whom I once worked.  They were too hard to fix and maintain, so they just piled up.  There are some great memos at Andy's Arcade http://www.alsarcade.com/Andy/arc/atari/ from Atari Ireland, where the engineers are working frantically to keep the machines in the field from failing.  They resort to installing a bunch of small fans inside the cabinets to keep them cool.

[Spyridon]

You should introduce yourself to the guy parting out the Star Wars over in the B/S/T forum.  You guys would probably get along well.

[CheffoJeffo]

who are we to call him names and judge him for doing what he wants with his own property?

Welcome to the Innernets!

This reception is warm compared to the beating he would take over at KLOV or on RGVAC. 

It could be worse.  At least he didn't try to MAME a working, mint condition Smash TV and put pink, fluffy clouds on the side of it.

Or a mostly-working Star Wars !

 

EDIT: Damn -- Spyridon beat me to it!

[Namco]

This would have been a much nicer thread to read if it had been made into a modern driving sim cab at least, but spray painting over sideart in good condition and cutting it open is just too much. That and cramming a monitor, computer and a PS3 in the poor thing while it's still dirty from many places. I mean, sweep it out, sand & prime, clean it up a little bit. Between the dirt, uneven black spray paint, fingerprints, holes badly cut into it, discolored wood, random brick-a-brack from around the house crammed in there it's just sad, man.

You could've just sat down in a lawn chair in a dark garage to the same effect. It certainly would be a more comfortable seat. But that's just my opinion, it's your cab and you can do what you want with it. I can't wait to see the dragon stickers stuck on there, find a good spot on the black primer where it's even.

EDIT: edited to not sound so vitriolic.

[RayB]

To be honest, when I saw that dragon image up there... I thought it looked kick ass.

[Namco]

Eh, I wrote a pissy post sorry. But do yourself a favor and do it right. After you're done mocking it up, remove all the parts that you intend on keeping and scrub that thing clean, sand, strip, paint, replace worn rubber, add modern amenities, and get some good artwork. I'm sure it'll look great with laminate on it too, but not if there are still signs of age like rust and dirt. Build something you're proud of and take your time.

[SavannahLion]

...My mom took a look and said...

Ah... That perhaps throws some light as to why you did this. If you are young enough that your mom's opinion still influences you enough to make you paint your cab black then I would guess you are also young enough to not realize the significance of what you have permanently  done to this cab.

I thought the use of, "LOL," five times in a single thread as of this posting was a dead give away.

Damn you, you just screwed up my averages.

[Silas (son of Silas)]

Posted by: Silhouette      Posted on: Today at 12:48:15 AM
It's been 9 days since i first saw this thread

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yep, still pissed about this

hope you get hit by a bus!

... comments like this... FAIL

Wishing people are hit by a bus is a little extreme for painting a cab black 

[Magnet_Eye]

This has seriously got to be some kind of joke, right?

If not, this moron comes here to taunt us and show us how he destroyed a SIT DOWN Pole Position? WTF is wrong with this guy? He wants to do LANS with it? He wants to put lawn chair fabric inside? Really? Maybe some Astro Turf on the floor and pinks flamingos glued to the sides? JESUS CHRIST!

Is this a late April Fools joke?

Someone ban this guy from these forums. We don't need to hear this CRAP!

[NIVO]

enjoy your timeout Silhouette. We wil not tolerate comments like yours here. Next time is permanent.

No more comments like this of any sort, lets get the thread back on track and post accordingly to its content.

[GAJoe]

Someone ban this guy from these forums. We don't need to hear this CRAP!

I doubt that's really necessary.  If he wasn't already driven off by the initial comments, I'd have to think the death wish sealed the deal.  I'll be very surprised if he posts further updates.  A shame we'll never see how that wicked, awesome dragon turned out.   

If you're out there, though, DaMulta, I hope you do come back.  The damage is already done, so we might as well see how it all turns out.  I am pretty sure most of us don't wish ill will upon you just for painting a Pole Position black.

[Gatsu]

I've gotta say thats pretty screwed up guys. Yeah you may not agree with what he's done to a cab he's paid money for. But seriously...get over it.

All these great comments probably drove him off and he probably won't come back. And I can't say I wouldnt blame him.

Its a sad day for this forum. This thread will probably drive off other new members as well.

[BASS!]

Should just be closed and maybe apologies should be given. As far as maiming goes, if you bought something that you want to change, then go right ahead. I have changed classic cabs to pcs and I have no problem with it. I am not keeping anyone from restoring them, and I am also not just burning them. I think of them as mass produced furnature, they are well built and last a long time. They also exude character that is very hard to replicate. They are just natural to want to modify and add your own twist to make them your own.

 Even if it ended looking like total crap, who cares? He has to live with it, and by finishing it he will learn how to do better. Too bad it had to be a pretty rare machine for starters though.

[TOK]

He didn't threaten the guy, he made a classless comment.

This is a forum for people that build and restore arcade cabinets. Its expected that you appreciate them if you're eve here. If you make something nasty and can't handle the feedback, you shouldn't be putting it out there for public comment. Obviously its his to do what he wants with. Nobody questions that.

If he ruins it and doesn't post pictures, nobody knows.  He did though, and got exactly the feedback he should have.

 

[Gatsu]

Like a lot of you guys on here...I didn't care for what he did to the artwork. But how people responded was immature and just flat - out hateful. I didn't think that's what this forum was about.

Like I said before.....posting your disagreements about it....then being total ---uvulas--- are 2 completely different things. Saying "hey I think you're screwing up a perfectly good cabinet" is one thing. Saying "I hope you get hit by a bus you ---smurfing--- moron for shitting on this cabinet" is just retarded and wrong.

People are gonna screw up cabinets. Not every cabinet or project posted in this forum is 100% win. Some are just flat out ugly. But none of you guys get nasty then. You may say you don't like it....but you say it tactfully. Here you just dropped your pants and shat on the guy.

[TOK]

I try to never comment on someones workmanship. Everyone starts somewhere and like many others, my first control panel was a hideous contact paper abomination. Even then, what I understood was not to take something original and ruin it.

This is generally a very well behaved forum, and what happened here doesn't occur often... The last time I remember it was the guy that wanted to take a working Smash TV cab and paint it pink with clouds and Zelda stickers. The Star Wars getting parted out is brewing, but since it isn't a Project Announcement yet it doesn't count.

[Namco]

I try to never comment on someones workmanship. Everyone starts somewhere and like many others, my first control panel was a hideous contact paper abomination. Even then, what I understood was not to take something original and ruin it.

This is generally a very well behaved forum, and what happened here doesn't occur often... The last time I remember it was the guy that wanted to take a working Smash TV cab and paint it pink with clouds and Zelda stickers. The Star Wars getting parted out is brewing, but since it isn't a Project Announcement yet it doesn't count.

The difference here is that TOK's hideous contact paper laden control panel was a set of arcade controls that he built with his own two hands on an website known as "Build Your Own Arcade Controls" that is entirely themed around the idea of building and restoring arcade machines/parts. This polepos project was the opposite, he was removing arcade parts completely, destroying original artwork without the purpose or intention of restoring it, and cutting holes in the cabinet.

In my opinion the project does not belong here since it does not involve A) building arcade controls, B) restoring an arcade machine, or C) building an arcade cabinet. Now if this website had a lumber salvage section or a "repurpose an old arcade cabinet for another use", then it would be relevant. Also since the majority of members here abhor the destruction of classic salvagable arcade machines, he got the expected response. One good turn deserves another. He posts images chronicling the destruction of a Pole Position sit-down soliciting opinions, and we gave our honest opinions.

Sure one of the comments was in bad taste and it was dealt with appropriately, but that should not diminish the rest of the posters' opinions on the project which where an accurate and honest representation of this communities opinion on the whole.

[Namco]

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I'm not done yet....I'm going to have some stickers made to match what I'm going to do to it.

Maybe this thread will have a happy ending after all? 

[Silhouette]

Hey, everyone. I just wanted to apologize for my very out-of-line comment the other day, it was really unnecessary. If I offended anyone, i'm sorry, and i'll be sure to watch what I say in the future.

[DaMulta]

Well it's been a while from my last post. I'm not pissed or hold anything on anybody.

You have to understand. I grew up in the arcade business. This has been broken for at least 15 years from the last time it was fully running. All it has done is collect dust and stock piled junk for years a pone years.

I let my son play his PS3 in there for a week or two(been getting the hardware together) VERY KICK ASS IN THERE I MIGHT ADD!+1 The 24'' LCD is perfect, and you can see what's going on in the cad perfectly from a distance! The sound cranks up so loud it rattles your teeth and you just feel alive playing in there. This has also shown me that playing other games besides racing games is ULTRA KOOL!

GD70 790FX motherboard
His I Q card
2 x 4890 1 GB cards
DDR3 16000
Water Blocks
Not very cheap


Anyways growing up around these suckers I have a different feeling than most people do. I was recommend to come to this board....believe it or not lol Right now it has been stripped and is being cleaned up from head to toe. I have a sheet of lament to install OVER THE BLACK PAINT so it will have a smooth and shiny surface.

The MAIN REASON I am covering it up is to move on. It's getting a new total restoration job, and in the end I want it to be all mine(my design). I have ALWAYS wanted to convert this machine for years a pone years just never did it. Then one day  it just happened. The guts where ripped and started the process.


I hope you all can forgive me for doing what I'm doing to this cab. Really I do I know how you all feel about it, and are hurt to even see what's going on. Just please look at WHAT IT COULD BE when it's done. Sometimes I hate even showing what I'm up to until I'm up to it. Some people just can't look ahead and use their imagination to look at things a different way.

[Namco]

Whenever I've helped someone move old arcade machines with big hunks of plywood missing from the corners, or when you watch a bunch of dusty old machines being moved on and off a truck with the faded artwork and the dirt; when you notice that they're nothing much more than cheaply made boxes of wood and paint, they lose some of their magic. I can see your point of view on it. I'll bet that thing will bump hard when you're all done with it. Make sure you post more pics as you progress.

[telengard]

I started reading this thread and was thinking "lucky bum".  For years I've wanted to start a new project using a Pole Position cab and restoring it.  Dissapointed.   

~telengard

[splunkett]

Wondering what ever happened to this horror story? DaMulta, do you have an update? Did you convert it onto a hotdog stand in the end or have you surprised us all with an arcade perfect restoration 

[Silas (son of Silas)]

I had forgotten about this cab. I would like to know what happened to it too.

[Epyx]

My only question is this....why not just build a sit down shell inspired by the Pole Position design?

Seems to me all the effort in destroying a cab like this and bending it to your will could have been better served by just drafting an initial design closer to what you wanted the end result to be...

[MaximRecoil]

My advice is to read this thread in reverse. Then it will read like a restore thread. For example:

Poor Pole Position that someone has spray-bombed black:



Let's see if we can get that paint off. It looks promising...



Success!

[splunkett]

 

[GAJoe]

That's brilliant MaximRecoil, except you have to explain in picture two why the cabinet has lights on it.  I'm going with, "It's a paint heating strip that helps debond the spray cover from the work area."

[thatpurplestuff]

It's the two year anniversary of this thread.

Somewhere, a sit-down Pole Position cabinet is cold and alone, haphazardly spraypainted black and with random disjointed holes cut everywhere.  The roof of the cabinet bows under the weight of an unplugged mini fridge and random camping supplies.  Long discarded french fries litter the drivers seat, and printouts of dragons and AMD processors sit where the pedals once were.  It cries out for a restoration to its former glory, but no one is there to hear the call.  No one is there.



Rest in peace sit-down Pole Position cabinet.  Rest in peace.

[ghettodish]

To the haters out there:

There are plenty of broke-down Pole Position cabs out there. Go get one and let's see what you can do with it.

[taylormadelv]

A few good laughs in this thread and some **ahem** interesting comments.
I am guessing the OP became intimidated and just bailed on this thread and maybe even on the game itself...This reminds me of how long it's taken me, personally to become proficent at restoring old, beat up, cig burned and sometimes badly water damaged arcade cabinets. When I started working on cabinets over two years ago, I was a hack, almost as bad as this, almost. It takes me a lot of energy and much thought into restoring/rehabilitating an old arcade cabinet. It also takes lots of time and patience. I love taking junk and turning it into gold but it takes a lot of time, work and patience. It has been a learning experience for me, learning to bondo, learning to install t-moulding properly, painting properly and converting control panels. For me it's a labor of love, it's very satisfying to see an old, water damaged cabinet look real pretty again, even if it IS a mame! A sit down PP should be a driver mame IMO but hey, whatever floats yer boat!

[HaRuMaN]

To the haters out there:

There are plenty of broke-down Pole Position cabs out there. Go get one and let's see what you can do with it.

I wish that were true.  I've been looking in my area for ~ two years and still haven't found one.

[opt2not]

I wish that were true.  I've been looking in my area for ~ two years and still haven't found one.

Lol, I was going to mention your frustrations in reply to taylormadelv...hence what you've had to succumb to.

[yotsuya]

HarumaN-

This guy wants $400 for his PP:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/ele/2326096217.html

[HaRuMaN]

Lol...  figures, now that I've amassed most the parts I need, this shows up

[skuttduck]

I saw one a few weeks ago on Ebay with a Buy it now for $100.
The guy wanted it out of his house because it wasn't working.  I don't see it any longer, and I tried to contact him about buying a push button from him.