Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up --- Bug Reports --- Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!  (Read 6909 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« on: March 02, 2009, 07:36:32 am »
Hi everybody.

In the next monthsI will try to restore our Berzerk, that was turned into a generic cab.

I already purchased a marquee, turned and repaired the monitor. I ordered the plugs I need and I bought a PCB set (no idea if it works).

I downloaded the awesome bezel from Mr.Do's artwork site and had it printed in UK. Seems to be great but until now I refused to attach  (and ruin?) the sticker to the new glass I bought  :-\


However, can somebody with a Berzerk provide a picture of the PCB-board? I mean the wooden "drawer" where the PCBs are mounted to.

Thanks.....pictures follow (some can bee seen in my Blog): www.thludwig.de

:)
« Last Edit: March 03, 2009, 02:49:23 am by Luigi »

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 09:27:20 am »

I can do that.  I'm surprised there isn't a suitable pic out on the net someplace, though.


Tried to find a pic on the web for you, didn't, but found this one.


Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 01:29:35 pm »
Chad, I prefer dark hair but thanks a lot for trying and this is a very nice pic  :cheers:


I guess this is the wrong section...can somebody of the admins or mods please move this over to "Restoration"??

Thanks :)

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 03:09:05 am »
Thanks for moving :)


Now in the right section.....IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE with a Berzerk upright cab who can send me a picture how the PCBs must be arranged on the pcb-board???

 :'(

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 08:56:44 am »

Easy, man... I'll do it as soon as I have the chance.  I work a lot of hours right now.  My berzerk is sitting right next to my workbench at home and the ZPU is actually sitting next to the soldering iron. 

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 09:02:41 am »
OMG...I completely missed this

Quote
I can do that.

...I'm....sorry  :-[

I guess my eyes were pulled to the picture like a nail towards a magnet   ::)

OK, no need to hurry....I will wait for the picture....btw. can you tell me how the PCBs are mounted to the board? Screws with separators I guess...

Thanks!  :cheers:

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 09:11:11 am »

BTW, here is page five of the manual.  It tells you everything you need to know about the layout.  If you don't have the manual you really do need it for this game as the self test procedure is critical for getting it going.

The boards are mounted with metal rails.  The layout could be approximated with spacers or angle aluminum.


Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 09:15:49 am »
Yeah, I know the manual, already printed out. And I think the layout of the PCBs is given with the connectors to other PCBs...but I wanted to be sure...so if you don't mind..... :)


ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 09:19:47 am »

I can still get the pics.  I'll take them with the ZPU out so you can see the brackets.  Do you need pics of the drawer sliders too?  That appears to be standard cabinet hardware you could pull from a piece of old furniture or pick up at a hardware store.

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 09:49:17 am »
After cleaning and giving some oil the sliders work perfectly again, thanks, no pics of them needed :)

Don't know if you saw the pictures in my blog. Here's what I am starting from:


ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 10:35:29 am »

Your blog is offlimits to me - plus many people don't often surf off of a project thread onto a blog.  You'll get a whole lot more help around here by posting the details in this thread.  The game title is the only reason I'm following it...

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 11:10:02 am »
Do we agree that this is the best freaking set-up for a cab ever ? I mean, not having to get the machine out of it's row, turn it around, open the back and reach in. Instead simply draw the entire electronics section to the front. I love it.

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 11:30:15 am »

It's great for the PCBS... but I haven't seen a way to get the effin monitor out without laying the cab down on its front and pulling it up.  Tell me that doesn't even things out!

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2009, 12:47:31 pm »
Do we agree that this is the best freaking set-up for a cab ever ? I mean, not having to get the machine out of it's row, turn it around, open the back and reach in. Instead simply draw the entire electronics section to the front. I love it.

+1 :)

BUT Chad is right.....the monitor has been turned to run vertical games and I  :censored:  before I had it turned back to horizontal  :banghead:

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2009, 02:22:55 pm »
Didn't know that part.... as the most famous Dutch soccer player ever always says: "Every advantage has it's disadvantage."  :laugh:

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2009, 08:02:18 am »

Your blog is offlimits to me - plus many people don't often surf off of a project thread onto a blog.  You'll get a whole lot more help around here by posting the details in this thread.  The game title is the only reason I'm following it...

I think you're right.....so I will show you all what happened 'til now.

This is how I received the Berzerk: tube rotated to vertical position and not running, yellow marquee, joystick replaced, Mr.Do (bootleg)-PCB installed, all original PCBs gone, almost all of the original wiring gone  :'(
Sideart is good on both sides, no reason to repaint. I'm still surprised that the panel is in original shape (no addition holes  ::) )








I rotated the tube back to horizontal and repaired it, bought a marquee and an original Joystick...I have no idea if it still works.....we will see.
Do Berzerk-PCBs work with standard microswitch-sticks, too??





That's it so far. I ordered all connectors to redo the original wiring as good as possible (and necessary). I'm now waiting for a pic to see how the PCBs are installed and will then start to rewire everything.....when everything is running again I will have a new CPO printed.

« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 08:06:43 am by Luigi »

RayB

  • I'm not wearing pants! HA!
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11275
  • Last login:September 20, 2019, 09:40:16 am
  • There's my post
    • RayB.com
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2009, 12:19:40 pm »
Looks like you've got a Monroe joystick there. Does it rotate a full 360 perfectly smooth? If so, it's a Monroe, used in Time Pilot and Gyruss. Average Ebay price is about $30.
NO MORE!!

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2009, 12:27:05 pm »

Most Berzerks you'll find have the standard red ball Happ in them.  They originally came with the spiffy optical stick but they were so unreliable Stern stopped using them and sent out replacement leaf sticks as a corrective measure.  The original is expensive now but I prefer the Happ anyway.

Spyridon

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1480
  • Last login:October 10, 2019, 09:43:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2009, 03:42:40 pm »
Looks like you've got a Monroe joystick there. Does it rotate a full 360 perfectly smooth? If so, it's a Monroe, used in Time Pilot and Gyruss. Average Ebay price is about $30.


Gyruss sticks are slightly different than the Time Pilot ones and sell for a premium over the TP ones.



Time Pilot stick is much simpler with only 1 plate.  They look identical from above.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2009, 03:44:52 pm by Spyridon »
My current collection:  Arkanoid^3, Asteroids Deluxe, Centipede, Donkey Kong w/DIIK, Frenzy w/Berzerk multi, Galaga, Galaxian, Gyruss, Mappy,  Missile Command, Multi-Williams, O'Boyles Arcade (Mame), Pac-man,  Sinistar, Star Wars, Tempest, War Gods

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2009, 11:40:49 am »


RayB

  • I'm not wearing pants! HA!
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11275
  • Last login:September 20, 2019, 09:40:16 am
  • There's my post
    • RayB.com
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2009, 03:29:17 pm »
Looks like you've got a Monroe joystick there. Does it rotate a full 360 perfectly smooth? If so, it's a Monroe, used in Time Pilot and Gyruss. Average Ebay price is about $30.


Gyruss sticks are slightly different than the Time Pilot ones and sell for a premium over the TP ones.


Time Pilot stick is much simpler with only 1 plate.  They look identical from above.
Thanks! It's amazing what one can still learn.  :cheers: 

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread subject...
« Last Edit: March 09, 2009, 11:47:02 am by RayB »
NO MORE!!

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2009, 03:57:03 am »
Thanks for the pics Chad :)

I guess I will use the spacers instead of the metal brackets.

And I will try to run with the original stick. If it fails and I cannot repair it, I have a red ball leaf stick lying around :)


ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2009, 08:47:25 am »

So you have the optical stick?   :applaud:

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2009, 02:42:41 am »

So you have the optical stick?   :applaud:


I think so :)

Got it from Ebay for 1...no one else was interested....

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2009, 04:35:59 am »
Happened to me with a G07 chassis. Also 1 euro as no-one else bid. I got a really big fat  power supply on top of it ! Picked it up in Germany (was close to the border for work anyway)  the seller said he was happy that someone who could use it got it. I recently put that chassis into operation in my Centipede and it's working great (even before cap-kit) ! :)

I really hope to play that Berzerk one day Thorsten, I've never played the real cab ! :D

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2009, 08:54:58 am »

A g07 chassis is a little different than a $100 joystick!

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2009, 03:10:29 pm »
OK, how about a working Power Drift upright ?

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2009, 02:29:06 am »
Got the PCBs on the drawer now....as you can see I need the transformer....search has started....

I used PCB feet....that thing with the alu brackets would have taken too long....


Steve

  • Trade Count: (-2)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 139
  • Last login:June 24, 2009, 06:18:34 pm
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2009, 02:55:03 am »
I have an original Stern stick if interested ? make me a offer via PM if you want. Can post up pics if needed.


Pics:





Steve
« Last Edit: March 25, 2009, 05:11:03 am by Steve »
The 80's is what it's all about.....

Luigi

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 611
  • Last login:July 04, 2019, 02:52:16 am
  • Collecting/restoring cabs
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2009, 03:19:08 pm »
Thanks for the stick but I got one...maybe Chad is interested :)


Attached the printed bezel to the new glass today.....Nigel from UK did an awesome job with it :)


ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2009, 03:35:55 pm »

That bezel does look pretty good.   :cheers:

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2009, 04:15:15 am »
This thread _badly_ needs an update ;)

By the way, there's a really good restore/repair log here:
http://www.wowway.com/%7Eookpik72/brl.html
« Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 07:38:00 am by Level42 »

ChadTower

  • Chief Kicker - Nobody's perfect, including me. Fantastic body.
  • Trade Count: (+12)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 38216
  • Last login:January 20, 2020, 10:27:05 am
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2009, 09:01:48 am »

Oh, hey, I forgot about that offer for the stick above.  I "bought it" from him.  He ripped me off.

DON'T DEAL WITH THAT GUY!

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2009, 11:18:39 am »
Indeed, he screwed me and some other people too.

To be clear, we talk about username "Steve" here and "Dexter" on Draigonlairsfans.com forum.
:

http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1007.0


slasherman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 114
  • Last login:December 04, 2018, 01:01:45 pm
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2009, 04:23:04 pm »
Then he need a negative Trade Count not positive (+6) like he have now...

Level42

  • Wiki Contributor
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5965
  • Last login:November 13, 2018, 01:56:39 am
  • A Suzo stick is a joy forever...
Re: Berzerk restoration - need PICS !!
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2009, 05:35:51 pm »
Then he need a negative Trade Count not positive (+6) like he have now...
He was talking about Steve who has a firm -2....