AHHHHHHH the upside to all this x64 headache!!!!!!

[Bender]

Just wanted to say that I finally compiled Mame64 for my machine today.
I've been wresting with XP x64 for about a month to get it running and in cooperation with all the software and hardware

PAYDIRT!!!!

on the same exact machine under 32 bit I cound't even get tekken to load and MK4 ran but was so slow it was even unwatchable

Enter Mame64
Now everything that I've thrown at it runs and is Fast and Playable !!!!!! Whoo Hooo!!!!!

and did I mention this is a laptop!

[ViciousXUSMC]

Opposite experience here, all my machines are fast enough under x86 to have no slowdown, but under x64 the very first game I tried had noticeable audio issues that did not exists in x86.

It was only that one game though, but it was enough to make me stick with x86 since I had no issues with it.  I suppose I should see if there is any real performance gain to be there and just how much it is.

laptop - 2.8ghz c2d w/ 4gb ram
desktop 3.6ghz q600 w/ 4gb ram

good to hear its working out for you though.

[Dazz]

I'm waiting for Windows 7 before I make the switch to X64 on my cabinet...  XP 64 is too much of a pain in the ass to fool with.  It seems that most drivers work right after install and the emus that I've tried have all worked quite well.

[Visitor Q]

I run Vista 64 on my cab and everyone asks why but honestly, I have had no issues getting most anything to work and as you have seen for yourself... MAME64 ROX!

[Bender]

I'm waiting for Windows 7 before I make the switch to X64 on my cabinet...  XP 64 is too much of a pain in the ass to fool with.  It seems that most drivers work right after install and the emus that I've tried have all worked quite well.

I'm not sure what your saying, are you saying that the drivers and emu's work, so it's a pain to work with?

or are you saying the drivers and emu's work with windows 7?

just a little confused on your wording

[massive88]

Opposite experience here, all my machines are fast enough under x86 to have no slowdown, but under x64 the very first game I tried had noticeable audio issues that did not exists in x86.

It was only that one game though, but it was enough to make me stick with x86 since I had no issues with it.  I suppose I should see if there is any real performance gain to be there and just how much it is.

laptop - 2.8ghz c2d w/ 4gb ram
desktop 3.6ghz q600 w/ 4gb ram

good to hear its working out for you though.

In general you will see about a 25% increase in performance in Mame64.  However, the beauty is having the option.  You could run the 32 bit mame for everything and it should perform exactly the same as it would under a 32bit OS. Then you have the option to just run 64-bit Mame for CHD games (or whatever) where you need the bonus speed.  If you dont have a 64-bit OS, you dont have the option.

[ViciousXUSMC]

Opposite experience here, all my machines are fast enough under x86 to have no slowdown, but under x64 the very first game I tried had noticeable audio issues that did not exists in x86.

It was only that one game though, but it was enough to make me stick with x86 since I had no issues with it.  I suppose I should see if there is any real performance gain to be there and just how much it is.

laptop - 2.8ghz c2d w/ 4gb ram
desktop 3.6ghz q600 w/ 4gb ram

good to hear its working out for you though.

In general you will see about a 25% increase in performance in Mame64.  However, the beauty is having the option.  You could run the 32 bit mame for everything and it should perform exactly the same as it would under a 32bit OS. Then you have the option to just run 64-bit Mame for CHD games (or whatever) where you need the bonus speed.  If you dont have a 64-bit OS, you dont have the option.

Yeah I know, I use 64bit mostly for the 4gb ram barrier more so than native x64 applications.  Though I do have a custom compiled version of x264 for 64bit and its about 15% faster than x86 versions of it.  a big ultra high quality encode with x264 can take like 6 hours with all 4 cores maxed out 100% @ 3.6ghz so even 10% is a big difference.

Like I said though I have not had any game not run full speed yet in x86 but soon as I tried x64 Mame I had the very first game I tried have some sound/skipping issues that did not exists in x86 mame and thats the reason that I use x86 now even though I can use x64. 

I have both .exe on my computer and I have a custom batch file I can run to use both of them at any time, I just have no reason to use the x64 version currently.

[FrizzleFried]

Yup...I got about 25% increase across the board going from Windows XP to Windows XP x64...

[Dazz]

I'm waiting for Windows 7 before I make the switch to X64 on my cabinet...  XP 64 is too much of a pain in the ass to fool with.  It seems that most drivers work right after install and the emus that I've tried have all worked quite well.

I'm not sure what your saying, are you saying that the drivers and emu's work, so it's a pain to work with?

or are you saying the drivers and emu's work with windows 7?

just a little confused on your wording

No, in my testing most emus and drivers seem to work quite well under Windows 7 x64. 

XP x64 driver support is lacking for the most part.

I am personally going to wait for Windows 7 x64 to be released before I update to MAME 64.  The only thing keeping me from doing it right now is that Daemon Tools is not yet supported under Windows 7.

[massive88]

XP x64 driver support is lacking for the most part.

I'm just curious as to what specifically you are having problems with?  I know people have said light guns have a problem.  Its not like you are using printers and fax modems on a dedicated arcade machine (at least I think).

Everything Ive thrown on my XP64 has worked out of the box as well as it does on XP32.  The only thing that really gave me a headache was getting Mamewah to work, but even that I got figured out without too much fiddling.

[Goatz18]

I dual boot my iMac7,1 in Windows XP and use it as my cab testing mule before I make any changes to my dedicated cab machines. I've come across a copy of XP x64 and am considering installing it instead. Not sure if I'm quite there yet though.

[Bender]

I dual boot my iMac7,1 in Windows XP and use it as my cab testing mule before I make any changes to my dedicated cab machines. I've come across a copy of XP x64 and am considering installing it instead. Not sure if I'm quite there yet though.

Please let us know if you do it. I'm really, curious, I was thinking about trying something similar

[iAtoria]

I would love to switch over to 64-bit, but there really isn't a point in doing do so unless they get the EMS Top Gun II to work with it.  The main CHD games I play are Area 51, Max Force Duo, Carnevil, Police Trainer, House of Dead 1/2/3, Virtua Cop 1/2, and Eggventure.  The only games that give me the slightest bit of trouble are Blitz and Tekken.  The games I can't play outweigh the games I can play, make sure you make a list before you switch.

[Neverending Project]

I dual boot my iMac7,1 in Windows XP and use it as my cab testing mule before I make any changes to my dedicated cab machines. I've come across a copy of XP x64 and am considering installing it instead. Not sure if I'm quite there yet though.

Boot Camp doesn't support XP x64, ond only certain macs support 64-bit versions of Vista. See here for details.

[Dazz]

XP x64 driver support is lacking for the most part.

I'm just curious as to what specifically you are having problems with?  I know people have said light guns have a problem.  Its not like you are using printers and fax modems on a dedicated arcade machine (at least I think).

Everything Ive thrown on my XP64 has worked out of the box as well as it does on XP32.  The only thing that really gave me a headache was getting Mamewah to work, but even that I got figured out without too much fiddling.

Well, honestly I haven't messed with XP64 since shortly after it was released...  Back then driver support was still lacking quite a bit. 

We had a storm that blew through the other night and it blew my cabinet PC...  Lost 2 hard drives, mobo, and Power Supply.  I just bought a new setup and a new 1tb drive that I am shipping to a friend to have restored for me.  I went ahead and installed XP64 on my OS drive and so far so good...  I haven't tried any emus/roms yet since they were all on the drive that blew and going to be restored soon.  Right now boot time is about 15 seconds, but it seems to be pretty speedy...  My opinion might change, but I am really looking forward to Windows 7 x64 to be released.

[Goatz18]

I dual boot my iMac7,1 in Windows XP and use it as my cab testing mule before I make any changes to my dedicated cab machines. I've come across a copy of XP x64 and am considering installing it instead. Not sure if I'm quite there yet though.

Boot Camp doesn't support XP x64, ond only certain macs support 64-bit versions of Vista. See here for details.

Snap, I didn't even think if Boot Camp supported it. It only works for Vista x64 on select Macs, mine not being one of them, so that's out of the question. Thanks for the heads up Neverending.