The exit of youth

[pinballwizard79]

 

My dad said that having children &/or being president is what truly ages us, not time. I believe it too, if Hugh Hefner actually raised his kids, cleaned up poop & stepped on a Lego brick a time or two I am sure he would have died 17 years ago 

I too drink more with age, weird...........

My yard sucks for now..................this fall however its getting a nice overhaul & then I may actually care about it, till then its so worthless I don't even speak of it.

Ok now I really sound 30.......sheesh, where are my glasses?

[Todd H]

Thirty? Pfffttt! Kids today! 

I'm about to turn 40 in April. Seems like just yesterday I was in college. Time flies I guess. Now I have a wife, 18 month old son (that loves playing games with Daddy), and mortgage. My knees are bad, one of my ankles is shot. My gall bladder is gone. I'm falling apart.

And, oh yeah, YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!   

[Necro]

31s worse.  Then your officially 'in your thirties' and can't say 'Oh, just turned 30' anymore.    (I know, just turned 31)

[javeryh]

I'm 34 going on..... 34.  Before my 2 awesome kids I felt like I was 18 all day every day.  Now time has caught up with me a bit and I feel 34.  I still act like I'm 18 though.  I can't believe where the time has gone - especially the past 10 years.  Fortunately, I can easily pass for someone in their mid-20s.  I exercise regularly and try to eat right (often failing) and since I turned 30 I rarely drink anymore.  Maybe a beer or two a month.  I went all of 2007 without having a single sip of alcohol just to do it.  I really think it is the key to feeling great on a daily basis. 

[mountain]

I went all of 2007 without having a single sip of alcohol just to do it.  I really think it is the key to feeling great on a daily basis. 

I think you have it backwards 

I turn 40 in June and am looking forward to the party.

[pinballwizard79]

No drinking?

You mean you went an entire year without blacking out, waking up in the back yard without pants & looking at your phone history & saying "ummm, uh oh"?

I truly am sorry 

Seriously though the older I get the more I enjoy a controlled buzz & more often. Its easy to do with just a pal or two but if there are 4 or more of us things go bad rather quickly.

It seems like we all take a shot (lets say there are 6 of us total) @ my bar in the basement.......there is a 1 in 6 chance 10 minutes later 1 of us will say "lets do a shot before (insert step of game: next dart toss, next foos serve, next turn on pinball & etc) & then 10 minutes later another 1 of us 6 (not the same one who did before mind you) repeats the "lets do another shot" chorus.

3 hours later we have all consumed 18 shots each plus the drinks being nursed in the meantime.

Luckily all visitors bring a full 5th each so we rarely run out & I inherit a partial bottle or two............but that becomes less of a blessing the next day (no I do not allow drunk drivers to leave the house, thats what the 7 couches are for  ).

Ok, that entire post made me sound like I drink mad dog & eat sardines under a bridge didnt it?


Thank god I do not have children, they would ground me for sure.

[Ummon]

---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, that's a lotta drinkin. It's always been 'more than four beers in a few hours, and I'm on the way to getting piss drunk'. I'm with j. Love the natural high of being outside and breathing deep, just like when I was in grade school. I eats better'n him, though.

[pinballwizard79]

Lay off the special Brownies Ummon 

[daywane]

Meh, you're only as old as you feel.

I'm 36 and am still pissed because theres not any good cartoons on on Saturday morning anymore.

Thank god for boomerang and net flix
you people will laugh me out of the forum but here are my net flixs
Duck tails (all seasons for all listed)
Gummi bears
The Flintstones
TailSpins
Chip 'N' Dale Rescue Rangers
Johnny Quest
Groovie Goolies
Fragel Rock
well you get the point
25 and 30 years old hit me hard
now I am 43 I look back and crack up

[pinballwizard79]

Yeah Saturday mornings rocked back in the 80's.

Remember this?



I remember captain caveman, muppets, TMNT & of course the classics like Bugs, Tom/Jerry & etc.

These were a childhood staple:

BTW that is indeed the worst NetFlix Que ever.

[Bluedeath]

About cartoons best were ( at least what has been aired here in Italy):

Thundercats, Silverhawks, M.A.S.K. (the ones prodiceted in the USA)
And all the japanese robots (robotech / macross on top)

But wathching them again at 33 is not the same.
It's like watching the old galactica after the new one,  the scripting is far better in the new one, the old one is too much simplicistic, i still love it because I've seen it when i was 8 but i cannot what it again because i'm too afraid that iit will ruin may memory.

BTW Yesterday i acctually tried to start to get in shape again, after 30 minutes of wiifit (i wouldn't  have survived a real training session in a gym, but ist a start)  every single muscle in  my body hurts like hell.   Now i remember why i was to reluctant to restart.

[Flake]

I'm 34 going on..... 34.  Before my 2 awesome kids I felt like I was 18 all day every day.  Now time has caught up with me a bit and I feel 34.  I still act like I'm 18 though.  I can't believe where the time has gone - especially the past 10 years.  Fortunately, I can easily pass for someone in their mid-20s.  I exercise regularly and try to eat right (often failing) and since I turned 30 I rarely drink anymore.  Maybe a beer or two a month.  I went all of 2007 without having a single sip of alcohol just to do it.  I really think it is the key to feeling great on a daily basis. 

I just dont know how anyone does that.  Not that I'm judging but that just seems so foreign to me....

Me and the wife just signed up for a gym membership though so maybe getting back into weight lifting will take its toll on my drinking time.....maybe....

[javeryh]

I'm 34 going on..... 34.  Before my 2 awesome kids I felt like I was 18 all day every day.  Now time has caught up with me a bit and I feel 34.  I still act like I'm 18 though.  I can't believe where the time has gone - especially the past 10 years.  Fortunately, I can easily pass for someone in their mid-20s.  I exercise regularly and try to eat right (often failing) and since I turned 30 I rarely drink anymore.  Maybe a beer or two a month.  I went all of 2007 without having a single sip of alcohol just to do it.  I really think it is the key to feeling great on a daily basis. 

I just dont know how anyone does that.  Not that I'm judging but that just seems so foreign to me....

Me and the wife just signed up for a gym membership though so maybe getting back into weight lifting will take its toll on my drinking time.....maybe....

haha... yeah, my friends gave me holy hell all year for it.  Even my wife was making fun of me for sipping a Gatorade while everyone else was throwing them back.  I work a lot and I get up in the morning to go to the gym beforehand so I'm usually out of the house from 5:45AM until about 7:30PM five days a week plus I work weekends occasionally and there are several nights a month that I'm not getting home until after 10PM or I go home and have to log on and finish something up.  When the weekend comes the last thing I want to do is waste time dealing with a hangover especially when my kids are up around 6:30 anyway.  After that year the first beer was delicious though and I was buzzed within 30 seconds.  I honestly have never felt better in the last 10 years than I did without the drinking.

[pinballwizard79]

If you were drunk you would feel better

[javeryh]

If you were drunk you would feel better

I can't argue with that!

[Ummon]

Lay off the special Brownies Ummon 

You know, that just never worked out. Was up for it, though.

BTW Yesterday i acctually tried to start to get in shape again, after 30 minutes of wiifit (i wouldn't  have survived a real training session in a gym, but ist a start)  every single muscle in  my body hurts like hell.   Now i remember why i was to reluctant to restart.

That's because you over-trained. Most people do, whether they've been training a while, or just starting. What can you do against pop culture though?

[Flake]

That's because you over-trained. Most people do, whether they've been training a while, or just starting. What can you do against pop culture though?

While I would agree most people do overtrain, I dont think 30 minutes on the Wii fit would/should be considered over training for anybody.  Your first training session should make you sore, your going from doing nothing to something.  Now if you are still getting "cant get up out of a chair sore" a few weeks into it then you are overtraining for sure.

If you really want to use a gaming system to get you in shape, I suggest a few hours playing track and field.  Make sure you chug a beer for each "event"....hehehe....

[Bluedeath]

Actually i'm using the wii fit to be in shape enough to start a "real" training. I used to practice Hun Gar style kung fu ad i know (at least i should) how to train myself, the only problem is that i'm  in in  a shape the doesn' allow me to endure even the basic body reconditioning exercises (i puke after 3 minutes of  jogging) sincei Is more than 5 years that i gave up any form of physical activity. Very bad idea. I'm paying form my lazyness.
My fat liver sindrome prevents me from having more than a beer in or 2 a month ,but anyhow  track & field  is too hard I want to get back in shape not to destroy my arm 

[Ummon]

That's because you over-trained. Most people do, whether they've been training a while, or just starting. What can you do against pop culture though?

While I would agree most people do overtrain, I dont think 30 minutes on the Wii fit would/should be considered over training for anybody.  Your first training session should make you sore, your going from doing nothing to something.

Sensibility, experience, and several things I've read say that isn't so. Also, there is no 'should or shouldn't be this or that'. There's only where each person is at the time, and for many, doing a single free squat is too much. Or even raising their arms above their heads. How do you train these different kinds of people? I know how, often using the same exercises, but most people aren't wise to these. Lastly, less is often more.

[Flake]

That's because you over-trained. Most people do, whether they've been training a while, or just starting. What can you do against pop culture though?

While I would agree most people do overtrain, I dont think 30 minutes on the Wii fit would/should be considered over training for anybody.  Your first training session should make you sore, your going from doing nothing to something.

Sensibility, experience, and several things I've read say that isn't so. Also, there is no 'should or shouldn't be this or that'. There's only where each person is at the time, and for many, doing a single free squat is too much. Or even raising their arms above their heads. How do you train these different kinds of people? I know how, often using the same exercises, but most people aren't wise to these. Lastly, less is often more.

Are you kidding me?  A single free squat is too much for some people?  Get the ---fudgesicle--- out of here.  While I agree there is no "standard" rule for all people, but unless you are 400 lbs. and just recovered from a stroke the week before, I would think 30 min on the Wii fit should not be overload on anyone's first workout.

You must be a liberal.....people cant raise their arms over their heads?  For God's sake, its this kind of attitude that contributes to the fatass society that we have today.  "Ohh, your 300 lbs and havent broken a sweat in 10 years?  Well lets start you off with some eyebrow raises.  Then we'll work our way into some pinky curls...After 6 weeks of this we'll try getting you to walk at a brisk pace on the treadmill for 2 minutes..."

[Bluedeath]

Second session was better, the only part that is still hurting like hell are the abdominals, all other muscles have been "tamed" and are not colplaining anymore when i ask them to work, still a lot of rust to remove but motivation will help a lot , im still 205 pounds with a lot of work to do.
My father had his spine to be reiforced with titanium screws due to the lack of execise, and there are a lot of chanches that if i don'tput my self in shape again ill share his path. But for the rest i don't feel old at all.
Perhaps not having a lawn that has to be protected from kids help      

[Ummon]

That's because you over-trained. Most people do, whether they've been training a while, or just starting. What can you do against pop culture though?

While I would agree most people do overtrain, I dont think 30 minutes on the Wii fit would/should be considered over training for anybody.  Your first training session should make you sore, your going from doing nothing to something.

Sensibility, experience, and several things I've read say that isn't so. Also, there is no 'should or shouldn't be this or that'. There's only where each person is at the time, and for many, doing a single free squat is too much. Or even raising their arms above their heads. How do you train these different kinds of people? I know how, often using the same exercises, but most people aren't wise to these. Lastly, less is often more.

Are you kidding me?  A single free squat is too much for some people?  Get the ---fudgesicle--- out of here.  While I agree there is no "standard" rule for all people, but unless you are 400 lbs. and just recovered from a stroke the week before, I would think 30 min on the Wii fit should not be overload on anyone's first workout.

You must be a liberal.....people cant raise their arms over their heads?  For God's sake, its this kind of attitude that contributes to the fatass society that we have today.  "Ohh, your 300 lbs and havent broken a sweat in 10 years?  Well lets start you off with some eyebrow raises.  Then we'll work our way into some pinky curls...After 6 weeks of this we'll try getting you to walk at a brisk pace on the treadmill for 2 minutes..."

It's curious and slightly amusing all the assumptions you made above. Sincere questioning is a useful tool.

[pinballwizard79]

mommy daddy stop fighting, waaaaaaa

[Ummon]

Hahn.

[clok]

I'm 36 and am still pissed because theres not any good cartoons on on Saturday morning anymore.

best qoute i have read in a long time!


Clok

[Flake]

It's curious and slightly amusing all the assumptions you made above. Sincere questioning is a useful tool.

Sincere questioning is a useful tool? 

[Dartful Dodger]

Being young is just a state of mind.  At least that's what you tell yourself after you turn 30...

I just had a life changing, I'm an adult now, moment this weekend(and I'm about to turn 40).


I've been making enough money to pay the bills and have fun on the weekends and that's all I wanted.  If I lost my job, oh well, I'll get another one. I can wait tables and make just as much money as I do now.

Last year there was a huge exodus of employees.  Even with times being so tough, people I work with were finding better jobs, some of them took jobs out of our field (like waiting tables), so my company did an internal audit to figure out what the employees are really worth.  They realized I was WAY under paid, (which is why I spent so much time on this board).  So this year I got a HUGE raise.  I’ve been spending less time here, because now I’m actually working.  Like in all companies we have people that pass the buck and when the buck gets passed to me I don’t care.  The lectures I get from my bosses are very similar to the lecture that guy from office space got after he was hypnotized.  I’d just let them talk and then nod my head when they ask me if I understood.

Last Friday at 4pm a project manager told me that she was swamped and had a FedEx deadline for tonight. I had things to do but they could wait until Monday so I offered to help.  She never asked or hinted, I just offered to help.

I was in the middle of coding something else so I finished that first.  It took about 20 minutes.  I was about to start on her problem when I get a call from another project manager who was in charge of the project I was originally working on(we have more project managers than actual programmers which is part of the problem).  It was a simple question that could be answered in 2 minutes.  Before I could answer that question the owner of the company calls me on the other line.  She asks me what I was doing I told her project manager B is on the other line and I'm answering a question for him.  I then get a "Project A has a today deadline and that has a higher priority and I shouldn't be working on Project B…" The conversation ended with a "What more can we do to communicate to you that something needs to be done immediately?"

I don't know what Project manager A told the boss, but this type of nonsense happens every other week.  Other employees spend hours bitching about it.  I always thought that was funny and a waste of time.  They get paid just as little as I do, so this added stress was useless. Over the weekend I realized I've gotten use to the raise and with the way the economy is doing I can't afford to lose this job. Tonight I'm going to have a (throw project manager A under the bus) talk with the owner of the company.  I hate this office politics BS.

Long story short: this weekend I realized I'm an adult with a real job and responsibilities.

[pinballwizard79]

Thats not stress Dodge,

Stress is when your industry no longer exists or when people die if mistakes are made.

Drink a redbull, punch yourself in the gut, lick a 9volt battery & stare at the tail of one of the youngest girls in the office for at least 30 seconds.

If that doesnt put your meeting into perspective nothing will.

Hooo Haaaaa, fire it up fire it up, yeeeeaaahhhh doggie!!!!

[Dartful Dodger]

The problem is, three months ago I felt the same way about this job as I did about the job I had when I was a teenager.

Last weekend I realized having this job is important to me.

The lottery is over 200 Million, and luck has already shined on me so I should be able to retire next week.

[daywane]

Last weekend I realized having this job is important to me.

I agree with all you said but only quoted the main part.
I have reevaluated my thought on my job.
I am glad to still have it. even if I work 2 full weeks 2 or 3 days into 3rd week and then laid off the rest of month. Been like this since November 08
I see this all over the place. I would hate to change jobs now and be at the bottom of the list. Many Coworkes have jumped ship. I think I will ride it out. Just like all workers I know are droping there 401k plans. Not me I raised  mine. I am @ 6% now ... I just got at 3% raise. I think I might even jump my 401k to 9%

[Flake]

I think its a wise move to increase your 401(k) contributions if you can afford it.  At the very least make sure you contribute enough to get the maximum company match.  Otherwise you are leaving money on the table.  I've been hearing alot of people talking about pulling out of their 401(k)s right now - terrible idea.  Why should you continue to dump money into a fund thats losing money?  Because you are buying in a rock bottom prices (well maybe not quite rock bottom but pretty close to the bottom - hopefully).  Why wait till the market is back on an upswing to start contributing again?  Right now your getting more shares for less money.  Fortunes are made during recessionary periods for those with the foresight (and available capital) to pounce.  I wish I the cash to buy another house right now.

Here's an anology I think we could all appreciate - Based on current market values, If $1,000 could buy you two Discs of Tron machines, why would you wait till the market on that machine increased so much that $1,000 only bought you one?  You wouldnt of course, and its simple logic but for whatever reason people get scared and back away.  I suppose if you are close to retirement age then that makes sense but I assume most of us here are not much over 40.

[pinballwizard79]

He's right, what goes down will go up.

Plus you turn an "effective" 4.5% net income deposit (which is actually a 6% gross wage contribution) + a 50% employer match = apx 9% total prior to any compounded growth & when compared to how that affected your net income well thats DOUBLE what you put in, again prior to CAG.

But the world sure does suck right now thanks to some people playing with oil futures & inflating their bank stocks just before retirement (ahem, Mozillo).

I always wondered if the CEO's of these banks had a green phone (for greenspan) like on batman who had the red presidential phone. Great, I feel like puking now, damn the jerk who started this thread..............er, wait a minute.

EDITED: cuaz I be teh mispellllin

[daywane]

I just know my company mathes .50 cents to the $1.00 up to 6 %
I have gotten a 3% raise every year.
If I put the raise in 401K, I miss no money in pay check 
I know all talk radio people say put the rest after company match in a Roth IRA  but I could not bank 3% and not touch it before it built enough to invest.
get it out of my hand first is safest way for me.

edit
I thought I better add this ...
I am no expert at all.
I got into my 401k only 3 years ago (maybe 4)
1st 2 years I was only 3 % in secure investment (not high risk)
I bumped up to 6 % less than a year ago
I was at $9,000 bucks
I am now at $7,800 ( I still own the stock, its only low falue at todays cost)
I fell this is still good. I know many others that lost $65,000 in high risk
I might go high risk in a few years 

[Flake]

The younger you are the higher risk you should assume.  As you age you progressively move into a less and less risky portfolio.  Most plans actually allow for your risk level to automatically adjust to a more conservative portfolio as you age.  Assuming you select that option.

[daywane]

I was advised by Vangard to go high risk.
MOM advised secure.
MOM is worth 1 mill in paper. I took her advice 

[pinballwizard79]

Tell the lady with $1M to invest in "PinballWizard79 Securities Inc"

Its a complex hedge fund calculated by interpolated algorithms of what ever I make up leveraged by the Chinese & backed by AIG in case of defaults which sells the liability as bonds to Iceland.

Super sweet returns tho,

I need to sleep.

[CheffoJeffo]

Will you all just get off of my lawn ?

• I don't remember those ads because I was at work when they aired.
• There are lots of good cartoons on TV, you just need to upgrade your programming package.
• If you don't have kids, don't talk to me about stress.
• If you can't manage to do your job without other people telling you what the priorities are, then you are not under paid.
• Sound investment advice hasn't changed in all of the years that I have been alive.

 

[lkench]

I'm 36 and am still pissed because theres not any good cartoons on on Saturday morning anymore.
When I was in the hospital recovering from my stroke the first month or so, I realized there is just complete crap on TV during the day.  Fortunately I do find the judge shows entertaining...and I also got reminded if the one thing I wish I hadn't gotten reminded of... Telly's strange obsession with triangles...lots of people think Elmo was the beginning of the end of Sesame Street, but I know it was actually Telly...

-lkench

[pinballwizard79]

I am going to be 40 by the time this thread dies.

[DrBunsen]

I'm only 31, but that's in hexadecimal.    (To those of you who can't translate hex to decimal I'll make it easier:  Today I am 18,047 days old (I make it a habit to always know how many days old I am).)

As someone who has walked that walk, I can honestly say that my 40's (in decimal) have been my favorite decade of my life.

Now, what you have to realize is that I'm taking things as a whole.  There were spikes of fantastical, amazing things that happened in my teenage years that I can't match in this decade.  But they were surrounded by the typical teenage issues of stuff like having little freedom.  Being stuck at home wishing I could go do... stuff.  Anything.  Not be bored just watching TV or doing homework.  Being a teenager sucks compared to adulthood.  But I did enjoy the hell out of those years since at the time it was the best decade of my life.  And some of those memories are AWESOME.  But they were surrounded by loads of stuff that was far less than awesome.

My 20's were WAY better.  Much more freedom.  College was crazy compared to high school (I managed to get a 4 year degree in only 7 years).  Road trips.  A month bumming around Europe with my best friend.  Marriage.  Yep, way better than those teen years.

But not better than my 30's.  First career-oriented job (I was slow to actually get a "real job").  First house.  First big-screen TV.  The amount of expendable income, and quality leisure time available in my 30's was higher than in my 20's.  In my 20's the actual amount of leisure time was greater, but it was mostly dead time since I didn't have much income to throw into it.  The leisure time of my 30's was QUALITY time compared to my 20's.  We'd take fantasy weekend trips to Vegas or Phoenix (we did a quick trip there to see the Cowboys play out-of-town once) for the fun of it.  My wife and I would experiment with what we'd do in our non-working hours to see what we liked and didn't like doing.  It was GREAT!

By the time of our 40's we began to expand on our fun time, not wasting much time experimenting, but concentrating on the things we like best.  Hosting more, and bigger, parties.  Taking trips that we KNOW we love (cruises, the beaches of Mexico, etc.).  The main experimenting I do nowadays is in trying to figure how my favorite recipe for my Margarita machine.  I was out of work for over 6 months last year, and I ended up having the greatest Summer of my life!

Yep, if I had to relive a decade it would be this one.  And my preference goes down as the age goes down.  And I'm looking forward to my 50's in a few months.  As I have gotten older my expendable income has gone up (though I took quite a bump being out of work), the control over what I can do has gone up, and my leisure time went up (well.. until we adopted those kids of ours a couple years ago).  As a whole, the quality of my life (and of my toys) per decade has gone up.  Some individual years sucked, but hey, that's how it goes, and that's true in every decade.

On the whole, getting older has rocked for me.

Your mileage may vary.

Live long and prosper.


Bunsen