Floppy disk MAME

[shardian]

Had a fellow once tell me about a tiny version of MAME that you could put on a floppy disk with a single rom. Anybody know what/where this is? It would be perfect to quickly get my Jungle King up and running for this coming weekend.

[Blanka]

Must be a really old version. Mame is 35Mb now uncompressed. So if there is an old Mame that compact, I'll probably only play the first games Nicola Salmoria emulated.

[NoOne=NBA=]

You're probably talking about the AMOAD project.

I don't see Jungle King on the list though.
The goal of the project was to have a bootable floppy that would play a single game.
I haven't seen anything added to the list in quite awhile.

[shardian]

Yep, AMOAD. I had never looked into it, but it is a neat idea for a dedicated game.

[BASS!]

Man, I'd give you a free 40gb hdd not to use a floppy to run mame LOL

[TOK]

My buddy did something in the spirit of this, but for modern hardware. He setup a USB thumb drive with everything on it so he could play classics at work without installing anything to the work PC.

[Franco B]

You could also use [AdvanceCD] to make a bootable CD. You can also use it to create a bootable USB drive which is what TOKs buddy may have been using.

[Ummon]

Man, I'd give you a free 40gb hdd not to use a floppy to run mame LOL

Hahahah.

You could also use [AdvanceCD] to make a bootable CD. You can also use it to create a bootable USB drive which is what TOKs buddy may have been using.

I'm doubting it. No need to boot from it when you can just run what you need from it. An FE click away.

[wooowman93]

Do what i do at school and bring it on usb play some marvel vs street fighter(awesome game) and usb's are cheap and hold alot

who even uses floppies

[shardian]

Holy crap this pc has been a headache!!!

It is an IBM Aptiva E3N 300mhz with 160 RAM. I have tried Spystyles disk, tinyXP with mame32 and mame0.54, windows 98 with Spystyles MAME, and MAME.54

Every time there is something wonky with the video drivers or something. I got the MAME errors that are described in Spystyles boot disk thread, no matter what I did. In XP, there were ridiculous video card driver errors. In Windows 98, I had a directdraw error in MAME54. I could turn off ddraw to run the games, but they looked like crap and ran smaller than full screen with wonky colors - typical bad video driver behavior. Only thing was the onboard ATI Rage video was working properly according to windows98.

Anyone want to take a crack at getting me up and running. I was considering trying an AdvanceCD boot disk, but don't know if it is worth the CD with my current problems. I'm about to toss this POS PC off a bridge!!!


Oh, and the worst part? I once had this PC working properly with MAME54 and MAMEWAH before changing out to a bigger hard drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HaRuMaN]

Holy crap this pc has been a headache!!!

It is an IBM Aptiva E3N 300mhz with 160 RAM. I have tried Spystyles disk, tinyXP with mame32 and mame0.54, windows 98 with Spystyles MAME, and MAME.54

Every time there is something wonky with the video drivers or something. I got the MAME errors that are described in Spystyles boot disk thread, no matter what I did. In XP, there were ridiculous video card driver errors. In Windows 98, I had a directdraw error in MAME54. I could turn off ddraw to run the games, but they looked like crap and ran smaller than full screen with wonky colors - typical bad video driver behavior. Only thing was the onboard ATI Rage video was working properly according to windows98.

Anyone want to take a crack at getting me up and running. I was considering trying an AdvanceCD boot disk, but don't know if it is worth the CD with my current problems. I'm about to toss this POS PC off a bridge!!!


Oh, and the worst part? I once had this PC working properly with MAME54 and MAMEWAH before changing out to a bigger hard drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why didn't you use a utility such as CLONEZILLA to move your OS and settings to your new, larger HD?

[shardian]

Holy crap this pc has been a headache!!!

It is an IBM Aptiva E3N 300mhz with 160 RAM. I have tried Spystyles disk, tinyXP with mame32 and mame0.54, windows 98 with Spystyles MAME, and MAME.54

Every time there is something wonky with the video drivers or something. I got the MAME errors that are described in Spystyles boot disk thread, no matter what I did. In XP, there were ridiculous video card driver errors. In Windows 98, I had a directdraw error in MAME54. I could turn off ddraw to run the games, but they looked like crap and ran smaller than full screen with wonky colors - typical bad video driver behavior. Only thing was the onboard ATI Rage video was working properly according to windows98.

Anyone want to take a crack at getting me up and running. I was considering trying an AdvanceCD boot disk, but don't know if it is worth the CD with my current problems. I'm about to toss this POS PC off a bridge!!!


Oh, and the worst part? I once had this PC working properly with MAME54 and MAMEWAH before changing out to a bigger hard drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why didn't you use a utility such as CLONEZILLA to move your OS and settings to your new, larger HD?

Because I sacrificed that old HD in a hurry a while back in an effort to save my desktop hard drive. I had forgotten about it until I fired the 300 mhz PC up the other day.

[SavannahLion]

It's been a long long time since I delt with IBm and their onboard ATI video. Are you installing appropriate ATI drivers or are you using Win98's built in video drivers?

vvvvv--Boring stuff--vvvvv

From what I can recall. ATI didn't have universal drivers during this era (nVidia was just starting theirs). I had an IBM Aptiva with an Ati Rage II+DVD . It was a chip that should really never have existed. In any case, drivers were a little touchy and the stock Win98 certainly did not have full support for this chipset. It will report that it's functioning, but running DirectX tests (or just about any game) will show otherwise.

It wasn't long before I was supplanting the ARII+ with other GPU's. Voodoo2 in SLI, Rage 128, I think I even had a TNT in there at one point.

With a good GPU and a well tuned install of Win98, the IBM Aptiva's from that era (I had a 233MHz) runs extremely well for that class of machine. I kept my 233 competitive well after BH6/300A boards were done ripping new ---uvulas---.

[shardian]

From what I can recall. ATI didn't have universal drivers during this era (nVidia was just starting theirs). I had an IBM Aptiva with an Ati Rage II+DVD . It was a chip that should really never have existed. In any case, drivers were a little touchy and the stock Win98 certainly did not have full support for this chipset. It will report that it's functioning, but running DirectX tests (or just about any game) will show otherwise.

This would explain the direct draw failures, and the graphic/performance issues I would think. So I need to put something in that is not AGP rage. I don't think I have anything on-hand non ATI at the moment.

[ghettodish]

Dunno if this helps, but..

Floppies can be formatted to hold more than 1.44MB. fdformat is one program that can do it, up to 1.7MB. Maxidisk is another. 1.9MB is also possible with other programs. This may help if someone is actually going to take on this project.

[ghettodish]

Holy crap this pc has been a headache!!!

It is an IBM Aptiva E3N 300mhz with 160 RAM. I have tried Spystyles disk, tinyXP with mame32 and mame0.54, windows 98 with Spystyles MAME, and MAME.54

Every time there is something wonky with the video drivers or something. I got the MAME errors that are described in Spystyles boot disk thread, no matter what I did. In XP, there were ridiculous video card driver errors. In Windows 98, I had a directdraw error in MAME54. I could turn off ddraw to run the games, but they looked like crap and ran smaller than full screen with wonky colors - typical bad video driver behavior. Only thing was the onboard ATI Rage video was working properly according to windows98.

Anyone want to take a crack at getting me up and running. I was considering trying an AdvanceCD boot disk, but don't know if it is worth the CD with my current problems. I'm about to toss this POS PC off a bridge!!!


Oh, and the worst part? I once had this PC working properly with MAME54 and MAMEWAH before changing out to a bigger hard drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have you tried this with the driver packs installed?:

http://spystyle.arcadecontrols.com/98/index71.htm

[shardian]

Holy crap this pc has been a headache!!!

It is an IBM Aptiva E3N 300mhz with 160 RAM. I have tried Spystyles disk, tinyXP with mame32 and mame0.54, windows 98 with Spystyles MAME, and MAME.54

Every time there is something wonky with the video drivers or something. I got the MAME errors that are described in Spystyles boot disk thread, no matter what I did. In XP, there were ridiculous video card driver errors. In Windows 98, I had a directdraw error in MAME54. I could turn off ddraw to run the games, but they looked like crap and ran smaller than full screen with wonky colors - typical bad video driver behavior. Only thing was the onboard ATI Rage video was working properly according to windows98.

Anyone want to take a crack at getting me up and running. I was considering trying an AdvanceCD boot disk, but don't know if it is worth the CD with my current problems. I'm about to toss this POS PC off a bridge!!!


Oh, and the worst part? I once had this PC working properly with MAME54 and MAMEWAH before changing out to a bigger hard drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

have you tried this with the driver packs installed?:

http://spystyle.arcadecontrols.com/98/index71.htm

I bookmarked that for future reference, but I've invested enough hours in this POS computer. I'm just taking the desktop PC down to the game for the party this weekend.

I even tried the AdvanceCD on this machine last night. It hung to a blank screen after apparently loading linux. I don't know why, and I don't care. For all the hours I've invested in this 300mhz PC already, I could have done a side job at work and bought a new PC or 2!!!!!

[gonzo90017]

Does the pc have a hard drive installed? I'm working on a package for older pc's 166-300mhz.
It requires a fresh install of Windows 98SE. If you wan't to try it out send me a pm.

[RayB]

Direct Draw?! You DON'T want to run MAME via Windows on a machine that slow! Configure it to boot straight to DOS (which you can do using Win98) and use a DOS version of MAME. You'll avoid the need for graphics drivers since everthing will work via direct VGA calls.

[Ummon]

Direct Draw?! You DON'T want to run MAME via Windows on a machine that slow! Configure it to boot straight to DOS (which you can do using Win98) and use a DOS version of MAME. You'll avoid the need for graphics drivers since everthing will work via direct VGA calls.

I recently came across a 333mhz machine by the dumpster and am preparing to do something in this vein.

For all the hours I've invested in this 300mhz PC already, I could have done a side job at work and bought a new PC or 2!!!!!

Ha, no doubt.

[shardian]

Does the pc have a hard drive installed? I'm working on a package for older pc's 166-300mhz.
It requires a fresh install of Windows 98SE. If you wan't to try it out send me a pm.

It currently has a fresh 98SE install on it.

[shardian]

Direct Draw?! You DON'T want to run MAME via Windows on a machine that slow! Configure it to boot straight to DOS (which you can do using Win98) and use a DOS version of MAME. You'll avoid the need for graphics drivers since everthing will work via direct VGA calls.

This is exactly what I want to do with the completed machine. I want DOS only, with a batch file set up to cycle 8-10 games in a neverending loop. No pain in the ass front ends or anything.

[RayB]

OK then you'll have to set up and configure DMAME instead of the usual Windows MAME.

[gonzo90017]

This package might be overkill for you. Since it contains 17 systems. They all run full speed on my 233mhz machine.
If you still wan't to try it out let me know.

Anyways. What is the exact error you were getting? Were you trying to run an optimized version of mame. On my machine when using the Pentium optimized version of Mame 0.36 I had no problems. But IG-88's machine always threw up an error when using the optimized version. Just switching to the regular Mame 0.36 fixed the problem.

[+2MAN]

Yep, AMOAD. I had never looked into it, but it is a neat idea for a dedicated game.

For the fun of it, I tried this tonight using the space invadors example on the website. I followed the instructions on the Arcade Machine On A Disk website and it worked a treat. And the floppy boots into space invaders on anything with a floppy drive!

This is really interesting I think, If you wanted, on a cab you could have a slot on the back of your cabinet for a floppy and simply put the floppy in for the game you want and power on. Much Much more like a real arcade cabinet would be, solid state, no hard drives and no windows It actually boots pretty fast too, and you can just turn it off at the wall without crashing. I do hasten to add though that I couldn't get the sound to work, though I didn't try very hard I'm guessing it would be a hard slog to get sound on a modern-ish motherboard going.

You need soundblaster or at least soundblaster compatable.