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Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« on: November 30, 2008, 10:06:31 pm »
So the Happ Rotary sticks have these nice little harnesses on them which make them really easy to hook up to Ultimarc's Rotary interface:



However, I recently switched to GGG's GPWiz40 so I could get compatibiity with Tinstar and Frontline.  GGG's interface just has screw terminals, and I'm wondering what the easiest way is to hook these rotary switches up to the screw terminals. 

I really don't want to cut off the harness to get to the wires in case I decide to ever sell these sticks.  I'd really like some kind of pin connector that on one side would fit into the holes on the harness and on the other side would have a crimp connector that I could attach to a wire going in to the screw terminal.  It seems to me like such a thing should exist, but I can't seem to find them anywhere. 

Anybody else mess with this before?
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Re: Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 08:10:06 am »
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Re: Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 09:50:52 am »
What about this?

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=236

I have no experience with these sticks or their interfaces but as I was looking around GGG I remembered seeing this.

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Re: Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 12:03:01 pm »
What about this?

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=236

I have no experience with these sticks or their interfaces but as I was looking around GGG I remembered seeing this.

This is kind of what I need but I need a harness with pins instead of holes. 

I've been looking too, and I've found a few pin connectors that crimp on one end, but I can't find ones with pins that are small enough to fit in the holes.  If I can't find anything by this weekend, I'll probably snip off the harness and wire it up. 
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Re: Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 01:26:01 pm »
The reason it's hard to find a wire adapter for this is it's designed to be connected to a circuit board.  IIRC, it's a standard 2.54mm (0.100") spaced, single row, 13 circuit, female connector, right?

You can use what it's designed to connect to; if I'm right with the size, most these should work.  They are supposed to be soldered onto boards, though, so you'll have to do some creative work.  The easiest being solder the product on one side of a board, and the wires onto the other side where the solder pins stick out.

Edit: These might work better.  The pin gets pushed through; look at their pdfs.

If the spacing is different, what is it?
« Last Edit: December 03, 2008, 02:31:21 pm by u_rebelscum »
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Re: Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 03:46:08 pm »

Here's a quick and dirty solution:

Get the right gauge wire for the connector and strip back about 5/16".  Twist, straighten and tin the wire if using stranded.  This will make it rigid enough to push into the connector and make good contact.  Do this with all of them, hold in place with some electrical tape, then make your connections to the other sides with some wire nuts.

Personally, I'd cut off the connector ;)

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Re: Wiring Happ Rotary Joysticks (mechanical) to GPWiz40
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 04:13:27 pm »
The method to attach Rotary Mechanical joysticks to the GGG GP-Wiz40 Max that I use, as per the instructions with the Wiz is:

Cut the wires at the base of the connector (white block at end of wire set).  Strip enough of the wires (1/2"-5/8") to allow them to be stitched together in groups of 4 wires per group.

These wires will be joined together in groups of 1-12, with group #1 having wires 1, 4, 7, 10 joined to one extension wire that will then reach the Wiz Controller in slot K(18).  Wire set #2 will then take wires 2, 5, 8, 11 wired to slot M(19), etc.

The system will then need, if PC Based MAME, a program from GGG called Roto-X Profiler.  This is installed, then set to desired input, then 'GO' uploaded to the PC.

The cutting of the wire harness is not a method I liked personally, but it was the simple way to get everything wired without concern.  You could do as Randy T suggests and bind all the wires via the female side ot the connector then run the lines together to be grouped as noted above, but that's just tight work I would rather not bother with.  :dunno