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agabriel

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Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« on: November 29, 2008, 03:43:12 pm »
Hello,
   I'm having difficulty with Terminator 2 and my lightgun.  The gun works well in windows and all right with other games (opwolf, area 51), but not with Terminator 2.  The bullets always shoot to the upper left of the screen and and on-screen target only moves with the keyboard, but the bullets still only shoot to the upper right.  Anyway, I'm starting to get a bit frusterated with it and I'm hoping someone can help me.

I'm running mameuifx32 0.128
with these options:
lightgun          1
mouse_device              lightgun
offscreen_reload          1

Thanks,
Anthony

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 04:55:09 pm »
If Im not mistaken, Terminator 2 the arcade game used analog joysticks with a gun controller mounted to the top of them. In other words the game is not compatible with a light gun. I actually use my trackball with the game and it does a reasonably good job.

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 09:52:46 pm »
I'm using Smog's driver, so it works like a mouse in windows.  Any chance I can get it to work like a mouse in the game?

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 10:03:41 pm »
If i remember correctly you have to calibrate the crosshairs/lightgun in the T2 setup menu, or it could be something like you are moving the built in mame crosshair but not the in game crosshair.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 10:05:59 pm by briktop11b »

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 10:47:12 pm »
The only other thing I can think of is that the game has to be calibrated for the guns. See if this will help
[url http://mamedev.org/devwiki/index.php/FAQ:Games#How_do_I_calibrate_the_guns_in_Terminator_2.3F_Can_I_use_a_light_gun.3F/url]

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 11:18:03 pm »
Codewhite is right, the official cabinet uses an analog controller not a light gun. However if someone said they used the trackball with the game then it will defiantly work with the lcd topgun.

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 09:49:36 am »
Ok, cool.  Does any one know how to specify the mouse in the config file for mameuifx32?

Thanks for the help, its appreciated -

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 12:59:39 pm »
I use mame 32 but cant you just hit tab in game?

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 02:32:48 pm »
I can hit tab in game, but it doesn't seem intuitive to change the controller...

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 02:47:39 pm »
lol, well you only have to do it once, I mean is it that difficult to hit tab? Your wanting to modify an INI file for it, just hit tab its no more painful. the topgun is NOT a lightgun its a mouse so if you do want to do the ini file call it a mouse. You have to know which mouse # windows is calling your topgun.
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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 04:14:05 pm »
Ya, I get that - I guess I can see where my response might seem flipant.  What I mean is when I try to select a direction with gun I get a creative paragraph in the field and not the singular response I need...

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 04:18:22 pm »
What I mean is when I try to select a direction with gun I get a creative paragraph in the field and not the singular response I need...

Sounds like a lot of the threads around here.   ;D

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 10:13:32 pm »
Ya, I get that - I guess I can see where my response might seem flipant.  What I mean is when I try to select a direction with gun I get a creative paragraph in the field and not the singular response I need...
Well like I said, terminator 2 uses a controller shaped as a gun not a lightgun so if its functioning for all your other games then its probably just that it wants you to use joystick and not a mouse. I will try it for you on my arcade tommorow if I get time and see what my results are
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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 10:56:51 am »
Hello:

You must press F2. And then, calibrate your cursor.

After that you can play it with good accuracy with LCD TOP GUN

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Re: Terminator 2 w\ TopGun 2
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 05:14:23 pm »
I'm running mameuifx32 0.128
with these options:
lightgun          1

This should do it.  However, other settings can make a difference. 

Do you have -multimouse also enabled?  It's needed if you want two lightguns or two trackballs or one lightgun + one trackball at the same time, but it's harder to set up when enabled even with only one lightgun.

Did you try remapping in mame?  (start game, tab, input (this game))  Usually mame's defaults fine, unless -multiplemouse is enabled, or you remapped previously sometimes even if the remap was on other inputs for this game.  If there was nothing special remapped, try deleting the file term2.cfg in the cfg mame folder.

Do you have -mouse enabled?  Some guns/OS combos work better with mouse disabled, others with mouse enabled.  Try and see if it makes a difference for your setup if nothing else works.

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mouse_device              lightgun

Doesn't do anything in mame, as this is a MESS specific option.  (No arcade game used mice.)  Think for xyz_device abc: arcade used xyz for inputs, so mame calls it xyz_device, and for this type of input device, I want to use my PC abc input.  BTW, what you have doesn't hurt either, but thought you should know.

If you had lightgun 0, mouse 0, then you'd want adstick_device lightgun (but see second question above, about mouse enabled/disabled), since term2 uses an absolute analog mounted gun, much like an analog joystick.  Mame calls this type of input device "AD Stick" in the input remap menu, thus the adstick_device name.
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