Momo and G25 Steering

[BadMojo12]

I am designing my control panel and I want to have enough "lip" on the front of the panel to accommodate a G25 or Momo Steering wheel.  I saw great discussions and YouTube video on these wheels for mame, but find nothing on the "footprint"--over and under the panel--required for these wheels.  Any information on this will be greatly appreciated.

Ryan

[Ginsu Victim]

Edit: Previously in wrong forum.

[Flake]

I'm not at home right now and so cant measure to be sure but you dont need much more than 5"-6" if that, on the top of the panel.  The underneath of the "lip" will only require a couple inches.  I'm using a standard 2p control panel from ArcadesRFun and have enough clearance.

[drawfull]

For the G25, 6.75" gives you a few mm spare on top. You need appx 1.25" beneath horizontally. It's difficult to easure on my setup (cramped)

The gearshift needs the same, but it looks like

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[BadMojo12]

Thanks drawfull, that's exactly what I needed 

Flake, yours is also helpful, do you have a G25 or a Momo?

RC

[Flake]

Thanks drawfull, that's exactly what I needed 

Flake, yours is also helpful, do you have a G25 or a Momo?

RC

I'm using the Logitech Driving Force Pro.

[NoOne=NBA=]

Make sure the CP doesn't round over too much on the top.
That makes the clamps have to work alot harder to keep it on the board.

[BadMojo12]

Is the Logitech Driving force a good alternative?

As far as "rounding" do you mean the front being slightly concave (bowing out further in the middle)?  If so, Houston, we have a problem.

RC

[NoOne=NBA=]

As far as "rounding" do you mean the front being slightly concave (bowing out further in the middle)?  If so, Houston, we have a problem.

That's not what I was meaning, but that may be a problem as well.
I was meaning rounding over the top-front edge of the CP.
The wheel contacts the table pretty close to the front on top, and a rounded edge makes it less stable.

[NoOne=NBA=]

Is the Logitech Driving force a good alternative?

The Driving Force Pro and GT are good alternatives.
They both have 900 degree steering.
The 900 degree steering keeps you from hitting an artificial end of travel....most of the time.
I keep mine set to 360 degrees on the PC, which gives you 1/2 turn in either direction.

The Driving Force EX is a budget alternative.
The force feedback motors aren't as strong, and it doesn't have 900 degree steering.
I got my two from a refurb dealer for $30 shipped each though.
The EX is needed on the PS2 for alot of the older games that won't recognize a steering wheel hooked up through USB.

[jasonbar]

Sorry for the thread resurrection, but I'm trying to get my driving games set up & have been reading all the old threads about the preferred wheels.

The Logitech G25 sounds like the nicest wheel, and its cost doesn't turn me off (well, not too much...).

The feature that's making me lean towards the Logitech Momo, though, is that the Momo has 6 buttons *and* the paddle shifters on the wheel.  The G25 has but 2 buttons & the paddle shifters on the wheel, with a large array of buttons over on the shifter (which I don't think I'd use much).

Do the red buttons on the G25 wheel perform the same function as its paddles?  If so, then doesn't this limit the functionality of some of the more complex driving games?  Spy Hunter, Road Blasters, Spy Hunter II (don't laugh!), RadMobile, etc etc.


Thank you,
-Jason

[NoOne=NBA=]

The buttons are separate from the paddles.

You say you wouldn't use the shifter much, so having that isn't a big factor for you.
The clutch pedal would likewise not be a big deal, I would guess.

I would highly recommend either the Driving Force Pro, or G25, for the 900 degree steering.
The MOMO wheel is only 240 degrees.
The 900 degree is adjustable.
I set mine to 360 degrees on the PC.
That gives you a full half turn in each direction, and makes the wheel feel much more realistic to me.

I haven't used mine on MAME games in years, so I don't remember much about it.
I would think the gate shifter on the G25 would probably be preferable on games that support independent-position shifting though.
If you are just going to pick AUTO anyway, it still wouldn't be that big a deal.

[jasonbar]

Howdy-

Thanks for the info.  Sounds as if the Momo's the way to go for me.

I was unclear in my post.  I was saying that I don't think that I'd use *buttons* attached to the G25 shifter unit, not saying that I don't think that I'd use the shifter itself.  Oops.  I certainly would use the shifter, mostly in high/low mode, as that's how most of the classic racing games were set up (except for a few 4-speed shifters like on Sprint...).  My PC can't run any of the fancy newer racing games (Rush, Virtua Racing, etc), so I don't need a gated shifter.

Thanks,
-Jason

[NoOne=NBA=]

I'd still recommend that you get the Driving Force Pro, or the Driving Force GT, over the MOMO.
They both offer the buttons on the wheel, but both have the 900 degree steering.
After upgrading to the Driving Force Pro, from the Driving Force GT, I wouldn't get a wheel without the 900 degree steering anymore.

When you said you wouldn't use the shifter, I understood that to mean that you wouldn't use the 6-speed function of it.
The other two wheels both have the up/down capability, so using only that on the G25 would be underutilizing it.

[jasonbar]

Thanks--will probably go w/ DFP.  Doing some searches around here, you've recommended it in quite a number of threads--you're obviously very happy with it!   

Momo has 6 buttons on the wheel, so DFP's wheel buttons don't seem like a big advantage.  And the DFP is missing the Momo's paddle shifters, but I won't miss those, as no classic driving games had paddle shifters.

Soooo, it seems that the optional 900deg capability is the big difference between DFP & Momo.

Does this wheel have same/similar mounting space requirements as the other Logitech wheels?  Or, perhaps I should just ask: how much depth on the top & bottom of my control panel front do I need?


Thanks for your help,
-Jason

[NoOne=NBA=]

The DFP has paddle shifters.
They are just really small ones on the back of the wheel spokes.

The DFP needs 14"W x 6.5"D on top of the CP, and 1-1/2" minimum lip for the clamps to grab.
Be careful about arching the front of the CP, or rounding over the top edge of it.
Both these things will make it more difficult to get/keep the wheel attached.

[jasonbar]

Thanks for the details--I think it will juuuust fit.

-Jason

[TPB]

the DFP is missing the Momo's paddle shifters, but I won't miss those, as no classic driving games had paddle shifters.

Not so !   

One of my favourite racing games, Super Monaco GP, had paddle shifters (nice yellow ones) behind the steering wheel :


http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9919

http://www.klov.com/images/11/118124217718.jpg

[jasonbar]

I stand corrected!!!