I thought most FEs were fine in navigation with a standard CP set-up. On my mame rig, I mainly use P1 for navigation, P1 start for 'enter', P2 start for emu menu call-up, P2 coin-up for game information, and P1 coin-up for cycle game info. Anyways, thanks for the discussion. I've ordered some extra buttons, I just haven't decided whether I want to make holes for them, although pretty much the pause is a given so I'll have to make at least one hole. No, it's a Mame cab. Pause isn't cheating.