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Smoked or Clear?
« on: October 01, 2008, 03:22:13 pm »
What does everyone recommend as far as monitor glass goes, smoked or clear? The only glare I can see having is from overhead lighting, no sun.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 03:24:30 pm »
I use smoked Plexi myself.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 03:37:48 pm »
I like smoked.  It gives the image behind the glass the appearance of just hovering in space, as if their wasn't even a monitor back there. 

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 03:38:03 pm »
After reviewing many other posts on the forums regarding this issue, I'll be using Greylite 14.  It apparently does a stellar job of hiding the monitor orientation, leaving the player with a screen that appears to be floating in the cab.  That's exactly what I'm shooting for!
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 03:41:04 pm »
Considering I am poor and tend to use pac burned monitors, I like a piece of tinted plexi in there somewhere.  ;D

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 03:50:01 pm »
Does the smoked dim the screen though, the brightness?
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 03:51:07 pm »
Smoked makes the colors pop real well. IMO, it enhances the contrast since the darkest dark is now darker.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2008, 03:51:56 pm »
Hmmmm... I never thought of it that way.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2008, 04:08:50 pm »
smoked

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2008, 04:14:55 pm »
WOW! Not one vote for clear, I am suprised as that is what I was going to get.  :dunno

Glad I asked...  ;D
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2008, 04:32:04 pm »
Atari seemed to choose smoked VS plexi depending on whether or not the player needed to see where the "bounds" of the monitor are. Example, in Tempest or Crystal Castles it doesn't matter because the action on screen is restricted in a way that you don't need to see the monitor edge.

But in a game like Centipede , you need to know where the bottom and edges are when controlling the shooter, so they used clear glass. That's why in Millipede they colored the area that the player can move around in to compensate for the fact that you can't see the monitor edges otherwise (due to them using smoked glass on that one).
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 05:44:40 pm »
Can anyone link to a decent online source for smoked lexan?

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 08:26:50 pm »
I have one cabinet that has clear glass and one with tinted.  Tinted all the way.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 09:22:40 pm »
Many arcades were smoked, many were not. It's just a preference thing. I've been told smoked looks nicer with an arcade monitor as it takes the edge off the brightness a bit. APC monitor is easier to adjust to your liking without using smoked glass/plexi, but it depends how pants your bezel is if you want to hide it.


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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 01:57:44 am »
To those that use tinted plexi/lexan, where did you get it?
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2008, 09:11:21 am »
Smoked:  Gives Donkey Kong the right colors :)

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 09:31:53 am »
For those looking for smoked glass - try your local glass shop.  I spent about $20 on mine and they cut it exactly to size.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 10:12:12 am »
I'll put my vote in for smoked/tinted too.

But on a related subject, do you guys who use glass get it hardened, or just use regular plate glass? How thick?

I stay away from Plexi, it marks far too easily.

In the past I've used hardened 4mm smoked hardened glass, and on my bartops 6mm smoked regular plate glass... but haven't yet risked going for a big sheet of non-hardened glass on a full size cabinet?

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 10:17:05 am »
Is tempered and hardened the same thing?
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 10:39:45 am »
I'm pretty sure tempered and hardened are the same thing.  I only use tempered glass for my cocktail cabinet otherwise there isn't much point to it unless maybe you have a trackball and play a lot of bowling/golden tee.  I also stay away from plexi due to scratching easily.  Plus, nothing looks better than a nice clean piece of glass - I always bust out the foamy glass cleaner before company comes over...

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 11:28:16 am »
tempered vs not:

If it shatters, do you prefer thousands of little cubes of glass in your machine, or do you prefer pointy shards?
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 01:40:48 pm »
I'm staying away from glass of any kind due to the arrival of our little daughter.  I don't want to run the risk of shards of any kind, dull or otherwise, in the carpet.  Glass of any kind is bad for little tummies.

Right now I'm running with a clear piece of plexi over the monitor/bezel, but I'd like to go to tinted without wasting the clear plexi. Has anyone had any luck using aftermarket auto glass tint film on a clear piece of plexiglas or Lexan?  Does it even stick to those materials?  Is the result as clear as gray tinted/smoked plexi, or does it show speckling/distortion due to the film application?

Of course, I could just get gray tinted material by mail order and double it up with the clear as a protective layer on top.  But let's start with what I've got now...

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 04:41:57 pm »
I went for Smoked (for the look), Tempered (for the safety) glass:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg865815#msg865815

Here's what it looks like on the cabinet with the monitor on:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg889715#msg889715
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 05:18:30 pm »
You know, 3 questions were asked on smoked lexan with 0 answers  :dunno

I wouldn't mind knowing as well!

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2008, 05:58:15 pm »
I went for Smoked (for the look), Tempered (for the safety) glass:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg865815#msg865815

Here's what it looks like on the cabinet with the monitor on:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg889715#msg889715

Cool.

That is even the same monitor I am getting.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2008, 06:01:24 pm »
Can anyone link to a decent online source for smoked lexan?

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2008, 12:58:28 am »
When mounting under smoked glass, is there a optimal depth the monitor should be behind the glass?

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2008, 02:56:58 am »
Here comes ProtoKatie (AKA the A-hole) to state one reason why not to use tinted glass (since noone else seemed up to it).

If you use tinted glass you DO get higher contrast, but at the sacrifice of tube life. IE to get the same brightness, you have to crank the bright on the CRT up.

Yes it looks better, but I figured I would point out the primary negative, since noone else did so.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2008, 08:18:17 am »
Here comes ProtoKatie (AKA the A-hole) to state one reason why not to use tinted glass (since noone else seemed up to it).

If you use tinted glass you DO get higher contrast, but at the sacrifice of tube life. IE to get the same brightness, you have to crank the bright on the CRT up.

Yes it looks better, but I figured I would point out the primary negative, since noone else did so.

It this the only negative then?
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2008, 11:07:58 am »
Here comes ProtoKatie (AKA the A-hole) to state one reason why not to use tinted glass (since noone else seemed up to it).

If you use tinted glass you DO get higher contrast, but at the sacrifice of tube life. IE to get the same brightness, you have to crank the bright on the CRT up.

Yes it looks better, but I figured I would point out the primary negative, since noone else did so.

That's a good point.  And it makes me feel better about using a mediocre old CRT that I don't care about.   ;)


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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2008, 12:15:59 pm »
Not sure this matters for many but if you are considering adding light guns to your cabinet I have read the smoked glass does not allow for them to interface with the monitor - I think I read this somewhere anyway.

The glass I am using now is clear - and scratched to hell (it was the old glass from the cabinet I converted).  I am considering switching to smoked glass myself but I do have a question.  The computer I use has one of those blue fan lights that is actually pretty bright.  If I remove the bezel and insert the smoked glass then I assume this blue light will ruin the effect and you will be able to see around the monitor through the glass?  Does anyone have a similar situation?  I could leave the bezel in (its a crappy homemade foamboard bezel) but I was never able to cut the bezel well enough so that there are small gaps between the outside edges of the bezel and inner cabinet wall.  So I'm thinking even if I leave it in there will be light showing through the glass on those sides.  Ehh..maybe its not even that big of deal.  Mainly I'm just curious is someone has one of those stupid blue fan lights and what effect it has around the monitor.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2008, 12:55:42 pm »
Well I am 100% sure I want to play light gun games, will smoked glass effect this?
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2008, 02:57:28 pm »
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Just remove the light or use a black marker on it to cover it in black  ::)

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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2008, 04:00:56 pm »
Can anyone verify the light gun issue please?

Thanks.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2008, 05:23:40 pm »

I'm staying away from glass of any kind due to the arrival of our little daughter. 


What are your windows made of?  Wine bottles?  Glasses/goblets?  Beer bottles?  Protective front-layer in picture frames?  The front of any CRT televisions in the house?  Light bulbs?  And any number of baking dishes, measuring cups, salad bowls, mixing bowls, mason jars, etc.?  What about the jars your jam and mustard come in?  Maybe peanut butter too if you get the good stuff.

You can only be so careful.  Not putting glass on your cabinet is probably not making an appreciable difference in your little girl's exposure to glass.  Plus, what about plastic.  That stuff leaches harmful chemicals into her food.  My wife and I actually used glass baby bottles for just that reason.  We figured . . . it's over the top to worry about it, but glass bottles are super cool so lets go ahead and worry about it.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2008, 07:08:58 pm »
Clear.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2008, 03:10:06 am »

I'm staying away from glass of any kind due to the arrival of our little daughter.

Thats why they make tempered.
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2008, 07:09:29 am »
Can anyone verify the light gun issue please?

Thanks.

No experience yet, but I have heard it is a chap-shoot with lightgun games. IE, It can either be of no importance or it can prevent the lighgun from "seeing".
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2008, 12:06:02 pm »
Can anyone verify the light gun issue please?

Thanks.

No experience yet, but I have heard it is a chap-shoot with lightgun games. IE, It can either be of no importance or it can prevent the lighgun from "seeing".

I had no problems with my old cab and smoked glass, but it wasn't really dark glass like in anti glare screens, just a slight tint.  I think it is trial and error, but I will have more experience from it when I build the Arkader.  That sucker is going to have dark smoked glass.  :o
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2008, 11:28:04 pm »

I'm staying away from glass of any kind due to the arrival of our little daughter.


What are your windows made of?  Wine bottles?  Glasses/goblets?  Beer bottles?  Protective front-layer in picture frames?  The front of any CRT televisions in the house?  Light bulbs?  And any number of baking dishes, measuring cups, salad bowls, mixing bowls, mason jars, etc.?  What about the jars your jam and mustard come in?  Maybe peanut butter too if you get the good stuff.

You can only be so careful.  Not putting glass on your cabinet is probably not making an appreciable difference in your little girl's exposure to glass.  Plus, what about plastic.  That stuff leaches harmful chemicals into her food.  My wife and I actually used glass baby bottles for just that reason.  We figured . . . it's over the top to worry about it, but glass bottles are super cool so lets go ahead and worry about it.

Maybe our family leads a more exciting life than most, but I can tell you that exploding arcade glass would NOT be the first spontaneous tempered glass explosion in our house.

I've seen and experienced serious glass injuries due to regular glass and tempered glass -- in construction, lab, and home settings -- and half of the serious (emergency room) injuries I've seen or experienced were due to tempered.  That stuff is very impact resistant to a point, particularly if it's properly mounted.  But if it breaks in your home, you get a billion little pieces of glass that you will never fully eradicate.  Ever.  Little kids left unattended for 1/10 second will find those lone pieces of broken glass, and do what little kids do with neat new things: eat them.

And if you get a piece that suffers from substandard manufacturing or quality control, you don't even have to hit it that hard.  On occasion, supposedly high-quality, properly mounted tempered windows spontaneously explode during transportation and installation.  One such explosion sent a friend of mine to the hospital so they could sew his wrist back up.

These events are relatively rare, and a kid is probably more likely to get injured falling off a booster seat than eating a piece of arcade glass.  But I have never heard of a single childhood injury due to acrylic failure.  Given that an arcade machine is an optional part of our home -- unlike windows and good peanut butter -- there's no need to add six square feet of shards-in-waiting.


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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2008, 03:16:03 am »
I'm kinda sorry to belabor the point, cos it really isn't important . . . but that strikes me as a little strange.  I mean, is your little girl going to be able to ride a bike?  Do you drive her places in the car?  Will she be allowed to eat solid foods?

I know that this is something of a false choice, since the fact that you deliberately expose her to other far greater dangers doesn't mean that you must or should add one more to the list.  But it just seems so slight a risk.  For example, not only could you replace the glass in your windows with Lexan, but the glass in your windows isn't even tempered.  And your windows are FAR more likely to be broken, both because of their location, and because many of them are meant to be opened and closed.  How many times in your life have you walked up to a windows and leaned on it with your forehead?  Not likely to be a common occurrence on your arcade cabinet glass.

BTW, while I agree with you in principle that good peanut butter is a necessity, it of course isn't.  You should be buying Jif or Skippy for the same reason you cover your monitor with Lexan.  All are basically the same -- inferior products that come without the risk of glass injuries.   :P
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2008, 03:40:46 am »
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You're a bad cleaner then! Easy thing about the tempered is the size of particles is never too small. With regular glass you can have those nasty sharp bits, but with tempered they are all clearly visible on the floor.
And I would even dare too eat one, and I bet a baby does not get a single scratch from eating one too. But hey, I ate a safety pin as a baby too :D

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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2008, 10:00:27 am »
I stuck a pin up my nose as a kid! It got so deep that I had to go to the hospital to get it removed  :laugh2: Obviously my parents were not laughing at the time!

But seriously, I fell through a pane of glass as a kid (the normal glass) and that got replaced for tempered, which I actually bounced of later on as an adult! The tempered one is still there and is far stronger! In reality, they are more likely to hit their heads of the corners or something else. But I can understand your point completely though, if you are making it, why not make it a bit more child friendly!!!

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2008, 03:06:00 am »
can someone confirm about the lightgun issue?? all I care about is ps2 and dreamcast gun games. I dont even have a computer in my cabinet anymore(using a modded xbox instead)


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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2008, 09:09:44 am »
ANYONE??


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« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2008, 09:13:15 am »
ANYONE??



I wish I could answer this for you but as you can I see, I never did get an answer either. From what I have gathered I think it depends on the gun and the tint of the glass as to whether it works on not. Hit and miss I would say but no one has really came forward and said, I have tinted glass, this light gun and it works.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2008, 08:15:00 am »
I was using 1/4" smoked plexiglass.  Can't find my receipt to tell you exactly how dark it was, but it was dark enough so you couldn't see the Sony 27" TV behind it. 

I also have two Act Labs lightguns, so I can tell you first hand that the smoked plexi made the guns work poorly.  So poorly, in fact, that I replaced the plexi with clear glass and made a bezel instead.

The light guns work great now.  I don't know if thinner or less dark plexi would make a difference or not.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2008, 10:57:12 pm »
Haven't been back to this thread in ages.  I appreciate the food advice, suggestions that maybe it's not so bad for my kid to eat glass, etc.  I'll still be opting for the responsible-parent path, though.  Clearly you guys haven't experienced the same glass disasters I have.  Maybe I'll go for glass once the kids are older -- 7-8 years or so should do it given that more little ones hopefully will be arriving in the future.    ;D

Still no answer to my question though: Has anyone messed around with tint film -- and if so, how did it turn out?

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2008, 08:28:43 am »
I was using 1/4" smoked plexiglass.  Can't find my receipt to tell you exactly how dark it was, but it was dark enough so you couldn't see the Sony 27" TV behind it. 

I also have two Act Labs lightguns, so I can tell you first hand that the smoked plexi made the guns work poorly.  So poorly, in fact, that I replaced the plexi with clear glass and made a bezel instead.

The light guns work great now.  I don't know if thinner or less dark plexi would make a difference or not.

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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2008, 11:30:00 am »
I used clear glass on my cocktail. I've never had a problem with glare. I brought the top of the machine into the glass shop and they cut it to fit.
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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2009, 08:20:18 am »
Any final thoughts on this one? Going to order my glass today... After reading over this, it seems to me that smoke is the clear (hahahaha) winner.  :P
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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2009, 08:37:16 am »
On 2 cabs, I have clear tempered glass up front, and then a piece of tinted plexi behind the bezel art. There were more than a few arcade games that did it this way.

My Xevious had it done in the factory - the plexi is actually part of the bezel. For my jungle king I took advantage of the extra slot in the J-Channel to mount a piece of tinted plexi. It looks very sharp if you use bezel art.

Just thought I would throw that out there for consideration.

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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2009, 08:44:24 am »
I don't think I am going to do bezel art, maybe at some point and time. My plans are to paint the glass around the inside when I get it, pitch black to incase the monitor so if anything I would sticker the glass at a later date.

Ordering smoked or clear glass is not the end of the world as I can always swap it out. Personally I think the monitor looks great without any sorta glass which is making me think I should get clear but it seems that a lot of people on here really prefer the smoked look. Maybe I will too once I see it.
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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2009, 09:28:07 am »
Post a pic of your cab here. If you have a Midway style that has a black bezel that fill the entire area, then there is no reason to go tinted I think. Another reason for tinted back in the day was that 19" monitor games had a bezel, but it almost never fill up the whole monitor panel. The wood was painted black, and tinted plexi covered the transition from the monitor bezel to the monitor mounting panel.

I had a dynamo cab that had tinted plexi for this very reason.

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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2009, 09:48:04 am »
smoked all the way even if it's just a subtle tint, looks better and warms up the colors too!

just wanted to add I think there is a little confusion between plexi and lexan. Plexi does scratch easier than glass but it's still pretty durable where as lexan will scratch if you look at it wrong but is easier to work with so better for cutting holes and shaping

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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2009, 11:39:18 am »

Plexi in front of monitor
Lexan for CP overlay

I always wondered, why plexi over the monitor? Your more likely to scratch the CP because of touching it all the time. But how often do you touch the monitor? Could you not just use lexan as well over the monitor?

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« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2009, 11:41:09 am »

Plexi in front of monitor
Lexan for CP overlay

I always wondered, why plexi over the monitor? Your more likely to scratch the CP because of touching it all the time. But how often do you touch the monitor? Could you not just use lexan as well over the monitor?

I think glass over the monitor has to be the best bet! I'm sure it offers the cleanest look and is less likely to scratch.
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Re: Smoked or Clear?
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2009, 12:10:46 pm »
I use tinted glass in my cabinet and my lightguns DO work! Thats because I don't use the actlabs guns, instead i'm using the EMS Topgun II. My Sensor bars are mounted behind the glass, just on the bezel.

The Topgun works like a charm as long as it can see where the LEDs on the sensor bars are. And they do work behind my tinted glass.

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« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2009, 12:35:48 pm »
Good to know.
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« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2009, 03:51:07 pm »

Plexi in front of monitor
Lexan for CP overlay

I always wondered, why plexi over the monitor? Your more likely to scratch the CP because of touching it all the time. But how often do you touch the monitor? Could you not just use lexan as well over the monitor?

Sure, but the Plexi has a little added protection from scratches, and Plexi is also stiffer so it naturally lays more flat


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« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2009, 06:16:05 am »
Sure, but the Plexi has a little added protection from scratches, and Plexi is also stiffer so it naturally lays more flat

Ahhh, now the flatness does make a difference!

I might be tempted to go for glass if the sensor bar for the topgun works behind it!

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« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2009, 08:26:37 am »
My only real thoughts on this at this point is my monitor looks so good without any glass in front of it that I am hoping the smoked makes it look that much better.
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« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2009, 08:49:46 am »
If money isn't the matter, then I would order the sheet, put it in and out and compare the images with your own eyes. You can always decide later on, that you won't need the glass.

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« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2009, 08:51:28 am »
Well from what I can tell everyone on here seems to thing that the smoked glass enhances the image and colors.
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« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2009, 08:58:36 am »
Well from what I can tell everyone on here seems to thing that the smoked glass enhances the image and colors.

I bought some of that Greylite 14 from a local glass shop because A) I had heard it makes everyting look so great and B) to hide the crappy home-made bezel I put together with foam board and C) the glass I was using was from my original cabinet I mamed and was all scratched to hell.

Cost me like $35 for the sheet.  My opinion?  It doesnt really make the colors "pop out" at you like many here have suggested and if anything dulls everything out.  Another issue I have with it is I heard that for vertical games it hides the unused screen portion so that it really makes the vertical games look like there are just hovering there behind the glass - again not true you can still see the screen edges.

It does hide the crappy bezel for the most part but you can still see some of it.  It looks better than it did anyway.

My opinion?  If you have a professional looking bezel, like say the happ bezels, and your current glass does not need replaced I would stick with clear glass.  And this way you dont have to worry about light gun issues - just in case.

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« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2009, 09:51:45 am »
Well I can say this about the Makvision monitor, the blacks are AMAZING! I'll say it 1000 times, I have never seen anything that does blacks like this monitor.

With my setup, I just plan on painting the inside lip of the glass to cover up unwanted veiws.
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« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2009, 02:44:48 pm »
Well I ordered from One a Day Glass, I went with the smoked.

It was $80.21 with the shipping from WA to PA, long trip for glass.  :P

Damn shipping was as much as the glass and I saved 4 bucks having it shipped to my work!
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« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2009, 03:32:29 pm »
Yea... I paid $40 for the glass... and another $31 for shipping from OneDayGlass.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg865815#msg865815

What specs did you end up with (tempered, thickness, etc.)?

Wait till you get the glass... it's really wrapped up nicely... with multiple layers of foam padding.  I suppose that they don't want you to end up with a box of glass chips.   :o

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« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2009, 03:34:54 pm »
Yea... I paid $40 for the glass... and another $31 for shipping from OneDayGlass.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82241.msg865815#msg865815

What specs did you end up with (tempered, thickness, etc.)?

Wait till you get the glass... it's really wrapped up nicely... with multiple layers of foam padding.  I suppose that they don't want you to end up with a box of glass chips.   :o

As a side benefit.... I cut up the packing foam and used it to line the bottom of my toolbox drawers.... hey... I had to get something for my $31.



I got exactly what you got just a different size, 27" W by 25" H. Me and a friend measured a couple of times, I hope it is right!
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