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Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« on: September 29, 2008, 04:54:01 pm »
Hey guys i just recently finished building a jamma to mame cab and want to start another project. In prep for SF4 coming out i want to make me a high definition cab that will run sf4 from my computer i guess since i saw it was coming out on PC. Now the computer isnt my problem i need help with how im going to setup this cab i want a rather large display and i want it clear. At least 42in display, so i was thinking either buy a HD rear projection tv or i have a 1080i projector at my house that i could also use if i could find a way to. So i was thinking about making a waist high table with controls on the top and on the backside have a hole for the projector to shine threw, but the problems i hvae with this idea is where am i gonna put the speakers at because im going to make it were i can move it around and if i put a sub in the cab it will rattle the projector. If you guys have any ideas please let me know or show me some pics of what you guys have done in my situation. Thanks guys

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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 04:57:38 pm »
Keep in mind, if you build a projector into the same base as your controls, the picture will move as you play. It will have to be SOLID and not move at all. Also, it will need a way for the heat to escape.

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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 05:26:11 pm »
Ginsu is right. your panel will have to be drilled into the floor. Is your projector ceiling mounted? Not sure of your setup but why not run a cable into the wall and up the ceiling to your projector?

HOLY CRAP!!!!!
I just realized I probably won't be able to play SF4 on my arcade Monitor!!! Let's hope it will scale back to 800 by 600. That said have you heard any pc specs TrAb?

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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 05:34:15 pm »
I would ask you first if you have ever played fighting games on that large of a screen, or on a projector before?

I ask that because it is extremely overrated in my opinion.  I have played on my projector a few times and find that the size of the image makes it hard for me to focus on the game.  Maybe I am just distracted by the size of the thing and I would get used to it, but I think it just doesn't fit into my vision that well.  Maybe if I was sitting further away from the image, but then what would be the point?  Also, I don't like sitting across the room from the image when I am playing fighting games, I need some kind of directness.

Anyway, aside from my own prejudices against playing games on a projector, there are other concerns.  like Ginsu says, any motion from people moving the joysticks and hammering the buttons is going to move the image.  In addition to that, projectors really do not like being moved while they are in operation, and it is easy to make a bulb in one explode by giving it a shock.  I don't know if higher end projectors have this problem, but in the past they were notorious for it.  

AND, I don't know about your friends, but whenever my friends come over to play, it can get pretty intense.  Wires running everywhere, three TV's running at once, fifteen people crammed into a tiny room.  If you have a big screen setup for SF4 and have any number of fellow fighting gamers over you can bet that it will get rowdy pretty quick.  It would be the worst thing ever for a drunk person to knock the SF unit over and break a $1000 projector.
 

So I do not recommend putting the projector and the controls in the same housing.  

What you could do is create a short box that will house your SF4 board, power supply, and speakers.  The projector would sit on top of this box.   You can put 15 connectors on the back of the box like a supergun and then build indivicual control panels for each player, or build a large single control panel box that is rock solid and stable for serious SF play.  OR you could buy adapters from the user "Laugh" on shoryuken.com and use playstation 2 joysticks for your controls.  

As far as the subwoofer goes, I don't really know if you will want to put into into the box with the projector or in the control panel.  Either case has it's disadvantage.  The sub wil vibrate the projector, which is bad, or it will vibrate the players hands, which I know is annoying from experience.  You could always put the sub and other speakers in a separate audio box, and that would solve the problem, but then you would have three separate boxes just to play the game.   Don't know if you want to go with that convoluted of a setup.  It wouldn't bother me, but I kow a lot of people like cleaner setups.  


I'm also going to be making a SF4 setup based on the pc version, but I'm just going to be building something smaller.  I am going to try to build a wooden cab that is inspired by the vewlix cabinet that the game runs on in arcades.  It's not going to be anything fancy, just a sit down cabinet with a widescreen monitor.  I'm going to use the exact same controls, control panel dimensions and height as the cab.  I only need it to be functionally the same as the vewlix, not nearly as expensive or complex though.  



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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2008, 05:35:11 pm »

HOLY CRAP!!!!!
I just realized I probably won't be able to play SF4 on my arcade Monitor!!! Let's hope it will scale back to 800 by 600. That said have you heard any pc specs TrAb?

Street fighter 4 can be set to run in 640x480 mode according to Gilley from SRK.

But that's the arcade game.  I would bet money on the PC version having it too though.

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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 05:39:16 pm »
Jack who?
Jack Burton, me.

Old Jack Burton , you just made my day! I've been holding off on updating my cab till february/april in anticipation of sf4 on pc. Let's hope they don't disappoint.



HOLY CRAP!!!!!
I just realized I probably won't be able to play SF4 on my arcade Monitor!!! Let's hope it will scale back to 800 by 600. That said have you heard any pc specs TrAb?

Street fighter 4 can be set to run in 640x480 mode according to Gilley from SRK.

But that's the arcade game.  I would bet money on the PC version having it too though.

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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2008, 05:47:02 pm »
Though I haven't seen anything official, what I have read says that SF4 has pretty low requirements for PC, but will take advantage of a better setup.

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Re: Help me decide on SF4 cabinet
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2008, 05:55:35 pm »
I could probably run it in my current mame cab that has a 25in screen but i need it to be HD cause im picky like that  :D ... And i really dont need the screen all that big cause i know it can be distracting. I just wanted to keep it around 45-50in which i dont think is to big (my xbox 360 and ps3 are on a 120in screen). But there is a local arcade around here and they have there football games setup with a waist high cab, and the projector is hung overhead i just didnt wanna have to mount anything but i may go ahead and do that... Maybe have like a dvi plugin on the back of the cab so i can unplug it from the projector and move it out of the way.