buttons and joysticks

[Shieldwolf]

What are the buttons used on games like street fighter called?

Are they ultimate push buttons
Are they competition push buttons
Are they push button Horizontals

Which ones do I want I guess is a better question same with joysticks

universal joystick
competition joystick
ultimate joystick
perfect 360

I do realize it probably is up to personal preference but how do i know

[Nil8er]

All of the Street fighter machines that I have seen only use Horizontals(at least that is how they look from above).  SOme Neo-Geo machines used competition buttons.  The difference is that competition buttons are convex while the horizontals are concave.
I am using the competition joysticks for my Street fighter project.

[Shieldwolf]

it's really hard to tell a difference in the joysticks. even in the pics.

[crashdmj]

From what I hear the P360 are the best, but they are expensive. I currently have 2 and am ordering 2 more for my 4 player panel. I plan to get the 4" wico ball-tops and replace the P360 shaft with the Wico ones, Oscar himself has said that this is awesome (Oscar I guess you can say is an elite member here, very informative!). As far as the buttons go...I forget lol sorry.
Derek

[rampy]

What are the buttons used on games like street fighter called?

Are they ultimate push buttons
Are they competition push buttons
Are they push button Horizontals

Which ones do I want I guess is a better question same with joysticks

universal joystick
competition joystick
ultimate joystick
perfect 360

I do realize it probably is up to personal preference but how do i know

The pushbuttons were probably horizontal variety, which is the kind recommend here most often.  If it's a new new recent fighter it *may* have the competition pushbuttons which are convex instead of the classic concave style...

For fighting style ultimates/universal would be junk... (although there are some people who like ultimates with a stiffer spring -> I still say they are junk)

P360's are the best money can buy... literally.

Competition joys are what most fighter fans like because they can "feel" the corners with that square actuator better for more precise moves/blocking...

The supers are a good all around stick in a mediocre way (but they bite arse for 4 way...)

have you seen -> oscar's review? although I can't find his review of the p360's... hmmm...

rampy

[Shieldwolf]

I plan to get the 4" wico ball-tops and replace the P360 shaft with the Wico ones.
Derek

I was planning on getting a translucent track ball so i could light it up I want one for golf and marble and I'm still doing research but  what the heck does that mean? I feel like 5 year old in chem class. And since trackballs were brought up, what about spinners. I like the small mame one's oscar has, but what should i look for?

[rampy]

I plan to get the 4" wico ball-tops and replace the P360 shaft with the Wico ones.
Derek

I was planning on getting a translucent track ball so i could light it up I want one for golf and marble and I'm still doing research but  what the heck does that mean? I feel like 5 year old in chem class. And since trackballs were brought up, what about spinners. I like the small mame one's oscar has, but what should i look for?

heh.. the 4" wico ball-tops aren't trackballs... they are replacement joystick shafts that are 4 inches long (well from the bottom of the shaft to the bottom of the ball)... they look like a bubble gum ball on top... it's old school ms pacman style.  (where as modern sticks on fighters and such are the "bat handle" type, that you see on the supers, competetitions, etc etc)

What's your trackball question again?  You can get an arcade trackball, and a translucent ball (or replacement ball), and light it up...

How big is your control panel going to be (to fit all this stuff)... I was doing a cabinet conversion and there was no way to fit in the standard spacing 2 8-way sticks, 12 player buttons, a 3" trackball with 6.5 x 6.5 mounting plate, an oscar model 3, and a dedicated 4 way stick on the same "classic" sized panel... I ended up needing to "T" out for more real estate.  But I digress...

Please clarify your trackball question and i'll/we'll try to accomdate with some reasonable answers =P

rampy

[armad1ll0]

I work at Capcom and they'll build cabinates in whatever. You'll also find that arcade operators replace with whatever as well, so there is no standard spec for StreetFighter or your Capcom layout.

You'll do fine with an ultimate or competition joystick. Either are good for this application while more people are more passionate about the competition. I find that the notch of the ultimate is fine for me. Our arcade division typically sources sticks presently from happ or imperial and often they are the ultimate style (notchy/square inside.)

For buttons, you'll do well with the horizontal pushbutton or the competition button. Don't every buy the ultimate verticle button. It's an older style which were used in some cabinets but it's a hard button that's not as fast as the other two buttons.

I'm assuming that you are looking at Happ's site. I have toyed with all of them and I personally think that the competition convex buttons are the best.

In Japan they use totally different controls so you know that it's all different.

[Shieldwolf]

I want to build this once and build it right (or as right as possible)
I want a 4 player machine with design combination of GSXR's seen here:

http://www.runriot.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/arcade/

and this:

http://www.arcadeshopper.com/images/mame/mame4plyrcp.jpg

I want to play a lot of fighting games, golden tee, and old school pacman.
Other things I'm looking at are light guns.  I don't want a flight stick or yoke.

As far as trackballs, I don't know much about them other than I want a translucent (so it will light up) 3" (im assuming) track ball . The spinner was an after thought after I saw everyone else with one and decided I would probably want it later.

[rampy]

I want to build this once and build it right (or as right as possible)
I want a 4 player machine with design combination of GSXR's seen here:

http://www.runriot.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/arcade/

and this:

http://www.arcadeshopper.com/images/mame/mame4plyrcp.jpg

I want to play a lot of fighting games, golden tee, and old school pacman.
Other things I'm looking at are light guns.  I don't want a flight stick or yoke.

As far as trackballs, I don't know much about them other than I want a translucent (so it will light up) 3" (im assuming) track ball . The spinner was an after thought after I saw everyone else with one and decided I would probably want it later.

sounds like a plan... you can get 3" arcade trackballs from different places. Ebay, Happcontrols.com, imperial betson (betson.com  they also sell refurb 3"ers for 30 beans!), wico, and andy/ultimarc sells 2 1/4" ones... also bob roberts sells some as well...

3" is the golden tee size.  2 1/4" was used in other games like.. uh centipede and uh... other games.... and stuff...  

the neat thing about 2 1/4" tball is you can replace the ball with a pool/billiards ball...

I highly recommend the mounting kit if you are using a wood panel, which it looks like you are... and if you are going for artwork... maybe get the flush mount mounting plate and recess it...

you can use high intensity LED's to illuminate your translucent ball... I wouldn't bother with the trackball lamp holder thingie that is sold, I'd just fashion your own...

*shrug*

rampy

[Shieldwolf]

I'm still doing homework, is it more of a personal preference when it comes to using a wood control panel. Should I look into something else? I agree about a flushed recess for the trackball

[armad1ll0]

I like to use 3/4" black melamine on my stuff. The edges sometimes chip a little but it an be touched up with black paint. w/ acrylic on top it looks top knotch with no overlay. It's quite awesome.

Arm~