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What is the point of lighting your controls?
« on: September 23, 2008, 03:29:41 pm »
It seems that controls that are lit is the new rave now days...  What is the exact point in doing so now?   They seem to look nice...  I just don't understand the fascination with them.  I guess I am just old school.  I personally think that lit controls and buttons would be very distracting to use when they are in your preferential vision...  It would probably even add a little extra glow/glare on the screen to be distracting.

So, why do you have lights and blinky things on your control panels?



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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 03:38:11 pm »
I took my lights out. I didn't like the feel of them compared to my standard Happ concaves. The only thing I did like about them was the ability to light just the buttons a game needed. Other than that, I don't miss them.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 03:39:40 pm »
I have to agree and some of the cabs with them that I have seen should carry an epilepsy warning...!!

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 03:48:46 pm »
I have to agree and some of the cabs with them that I have seen should carry an epilepsy warning...!!

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2008, 03:51:16 pm »
I took my lights out. I didn't like the feel of them compared to my standard Happ concaves. The only thing I did like about them was the ability to light just the buttons a game needed. Other than that, I don't miss them.

I have to agree with you there, the electric ice buttons don't feel as nice as the original buttons I was using in my CP and when I tap some of them I can hear the spring vibrate. While the attract modes look great and lighting the buttons with the real colors is cool, it's a shame the buttons don't feel as good.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2008, 03:58:33 pm »
I was wondering about how the electric ice buttons feel compared to the Ultralux, which is what I was using. Thanks for mentioning them.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2008, 04:29:18 pm »
I just lit mine for the first time last night along with the trackball and I am totally hooked on the bling! I have to agree though, my player one and two start buttons are happs and feel much better but the electric ice play just fine.  By the way, that website made me forget how to do math. :dizzy:

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2008, 04:37:07 pm »
Im using LEDs in my buttons and LEDs in rings around my joysticks to show what buttons/directions are used. Im also using a ton of independently controllable LEDs everywhere else on my cocktail just becuase Im a self admitted LED whore and I want to program some nice attract sequences.

Im using the 'Happ' translucent concave buttons with LEDs and I have had no problems what so ever.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2008, 06:11:46 pm »
I was in a gameroom last week and they had a number of "classic" cabinets that were old school. It made me remember that old school cabinets were often (not always) made with pretty poor craftsmanship. Marquee holders were often just pieces of metal, cabinets made out of plain black particle board, etc. and yeah, no illuminated controls.

I can't and won't speak for the rest of the community, but I'm building my arcade to relive my childhood and play amazing classic games - but also to look pretty and make visitors drool with envy!

I'm putting Novagems on my panel, and while the microswitches aren't as nice as the leafsprings of yore, the feel and look great on my test panel. When my panel illuminates on startup, a goofy grin appears on my face, and the ridiculous amount of cash I've spent all seems worthwhile.

That's my reasoning - pretty intangible, largely cool factor and for making others say "ooooooh...aaaaaaah"

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2008, 10:03:08 pm »
I keep going back and forth on whether or not I want to light my buttons.  I was leaning towards using NovaGems, but I'm realizing I'm going to spend over $200 on just for buttons on a 4 player panel.  And that's not lighting every button.  I've seen lighting create some real cool effects, but I've seen other cabinets that have just as much as a WOW! factor without them.

I originally wanted to go "all out" on my last project but I dunno anymore...  :dunno

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 09:21:46 am »
But back to the original question - what's the point of lighting the controls? For me at least, illuminating the buttons used by each game (and speaking their action) makes my 4-player system more user friendly. The bling factor is cool, but that wasn't my primary motivation.
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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2008, 09:58:13 am »
I have to go with two things - bling and ease of use. 

I think on certain cabs, the bling fits in very well if used judiciously. The ease of use is a big thing though on a frankenpanel.

In regards to cost, aren't the happ translucents not that expensive?

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 10:12:44 am »
Answer .....

Easy - its so that when you wake up at 4 in the morning and want to play a game in your underpants, you dont need to turn on a light.   :dizzy:
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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2008, 10:19:55 am »
I'm planning on lighting mine for aesthetics and for the same reason as arzoo.


I think I've determined my color scheme to be blue and white.....I want it to be clean. So I figure with some nice white translucent buttons that only light up when playing allows me to keep my color scheme while powered down or not being used while also allowing me to have the colored controls as typical on many original machines while in play. :)

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 01:00:42 pm »
Im using LEDs in my buttons and LEDs in rings around my joysticks to show what buttons/directions are used. Im also using a ton of independently controllable LEDs everywhere else on my cocktail just becuase Im a self admitted LED whore and I want to program some nice attract sequences.

Im using the 'Happ' translucent concave buttons with LEDs and I have had no problems what so ever.

Didn't know happ made translucent buttons couldn't find them on there website ???

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 01:05:15 pm »
Im using LEDs in my buttons and LEDs in rings around my joysticks to show what buttons/directions are used. Im also using a ton of independently controllable LEDs everywhere else on my cocktail just becuase Im a self admitted LED whore and I want to program some nice attract sequences.

Im using the 'Happ' translucent concave buttons with LEDs and I have had no problems what so ever.

Didn't know happ made translucent buttons couldn't find them on there website ???

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 01:18:44 pm »
Thanks Ginsu Victim

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 01:30:01 pm »
One of the guys in the B/S/T forum sells them also...sorry, forget his name right now but he's one of the reputable persons that people always order from.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 01:47:21 pm »
One of the guys in the B/S/T forum sells them also...sorry, forget his name right now but he's one of the reputable persons that people always order from.

More than likely Divemaster

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 01:54:23 pm »
Answer .....

Easy - its so that when you wake up at 4 in the morning and want to play a game in your underpants, you dont need to turn on a light.   :dizzy:


I don't need a cab to play a game in my underpants in the middle of the night.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 01:56:07 pm »
I would like the bling of lit buttons for attract modes, knowing which button are applicable to the game I selected and in some games where you have limited use of a button e.g. Defender, have the smart bomb button turn off when there are no bombs remaining.

Having said that they seem so expensive and after reading that members here don't like the feel of them I don't think I'll bother buying any now.

Oh, don't forget BYOAC member Ponyboy sells transluscents: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=36770.0

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 02:05:43 pm »
For me personally it was the bling route. Theres many advantages as some stated on here which is mainly for instance having whatever front end your using to light up only the controls that are usable in mame and what not.

Once set up correctly its a really nice investment, but I admit its more of luxury then a necessity really. Although I'll never regret making the change.
One day I'll have to replace the 4 way joy and start buttons though.



Plus the fact that your no longer limited to a single color as you have a much wider range of colors to use.

As far as the feel compared to happs or comp pushbuttons I noticed s slight difference but some of the people who have played on mine noticed it actually felt nicer with the led buttons then competition pushbuttons. I guess its just up to the individual person to determine which is best in the end. :)

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 02:14:49 pm »
I think it looks great and I like the idea of the buttons lighting up for what needs to be used.

I plan on it for my CP.
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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 02:36:23 pm »
You got some nice bling happening there puerrican85.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 02:40:37 pm »
I have ordered my CP with Bling Bling installed and really love the look of it .

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2008, 02:44:03 pm »
Am I the only one who hates the word "bling"?

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2008, 02:49:08 pm »
Seeing as were getting pics out check out my BLING!!!!!  :D



Its just a test CP for now, I have some nice sequences planned for my 3 CPs and table top etc. I have three LED Wiz's and a Pac drive to program simultanously which should be fun. They are only single colour LEDs so I have to get 122 outputs on the LED Blinky sequencer screen. Fun times ahead!  :)

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2008, 02:49:25 pm »
Am I the only one who hates the word "bling"?
I'm right there with ya.



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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2008, 02:50:46 pm »
Seeing as were getting pics out check out my BLING!!!!!  :D



Its just a test CP for now, I have some nice sequences planned for my 3 CPs and table top etc. I have three LED Wiz's and a Pac drive to program simultanously which should be fun. They are only single colour LEDs so I have to get 122 outputs on the LED Blinky sequencer screen. Fun times ahead!  :)
It's like a rave in there...



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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2008, 02:58:47 pm »
Seeing as were getting pics out check out my BLING!!!!!  :D

Its just a test CP for now, I have some nice sequences planned for my 3 CPs and table top etc. I have three LED Wiz's and a Pac drive to program simultanously which should be fun. They are only single colour LEDs so I have to get 122 outputs on the LED Blinky sequencer screen. Fun times ahead!  :)

Do you have a thread that shows your setup for the 8-way lights? I've been considering doing that, but wasn't sure the best approach (I'd like to light the arrows depending on the game).

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2008, 03:11:39 pm »
Seeing as were getting pics out check out my BLING!!!!!  :D

Its just a test CP for now, I have some nice sequences planned for my 3 CPs and table top etc. I have three LED Wiz's and a Pac drive to program simultanously which should be fun. They are only single colour LEDs so I have to get 122 outputs on the LED Blinky sequencer screen. Fun times ahead!  :)

That came out awesome man. Loving the light up around the joystick. How did you do that in fact with the light up around the joy?

Edit:: Nevermind, I saw the panels out in the open that you did on your thread. You gave me ideas for future projects :). But the cab is coming out awesome, keep up the good work and will definitely like to see the final build.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2008, 03:37:46 pm by puerrican85 »

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2008, 03:14:25 pm »
Am I the only one who hates the word "bling"?
I'm right there with ya.

Neat!
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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2008, 04:11:44 pm »
I always felt it was overkill, a friend of mine wants them just for that "bling" effect, but that wasn't my cup of tea.

Then I saw Arzoo's thread...

Now, on my next cab I will probably have them.  I don't care about attract mode flashy lights, but when people are over to play games, the first question they have is:  "what controls am I supposed to use for this game"... and of course that question gets repeated for every game.  Here's a shocker, I'm no expert and thus don't know every game's control scheme.  I could look it up but ledblinky along with those flashy buttons become more than aesthetics, rather a powerful and convenient tool.

Not everone wants to play a 1 button game and even some of the old classics like Asteroid (good choice for the demo Arzoo) really benefit from the lights and the ledblinky.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=73905.0

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2008, 04:18:57 pm »
Here's a shocker, I'm no expert and thus don't know every game's control scheme.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2008, 04:32:25 pm »
CPwizard

Seconding this. I have mine set to show an image of the active controls on my panel during pause.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2008, 04:34:21 pm »
For me personally it was the bling route. Theres many advantages as some stated on here which is mainly for instance having whatever front end your using to light up only the controls that are usable in mame and what not.

Once set up correctly its a really nice investment, but I admit its more of luxury then a necessity really. Although I'll never regret making the change.
One day I'll have to replace the 4 way joy and start buttons though.



Plus the fact that your no longer limited to a single color as you have a much wider range of colors to use.

As far as the feel compared to happs or comp pushbuttons I noticed s slight difference but some of the people who have played on mine noticed it actually felt nicer with the led buttons then competition pushbuttons. I guess its just up to the individual person to determine which is best in the end. :)

Puerrican85,

Which buttons are those on your CP?  Looks like the GGG buttons, can you give the specifics of your setup?

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2008, 06:35:15 pm »
I think cause as humans we just like glowy things! IE: Glow in the dark condoms! :laugh2:

For real though,
I just bought 12 electric ices from GGG.
But like Arzoo says I wanna  use them to show what buttons to use for each game. I always have to figure out what button does what with all the mame games, Hope it helps when  my company is over and there like ok what buttons do I use.  I havent installed them yet but I hope it helps. Thats why I bought em. Plus I like the glowy stuff! ;)
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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2008, 08:37:58 pm »
They can look great but it can cost a fair bit extra to light your average panel. The major factor that put me off doing my new machine with lighting is that I prefer function over finish, and finding your perfect button/switch combo usually means they are not easily modified to accept lights.

A lighted trackball looks nice though and is less affected by light additions, which is why I've gone with the U-trak and the led light unit.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2008, 08:40:51 pm »
Seeing as were getting pics out check out my BLING!!!!!  :D

Its just a test CP for now, I have some nice sequences planned for my 3 CPs and table top etc. I have three LED Wiz's and a Pac drive to program simultanously which should be fun. They are only single colour LEDs so I have to get 122 outputs on the LED Blinky sequencer screen. Fun times ahead!  :)

Do you have a thread that shows your setup for the 8-way lights? I've been considering doing that, but wasn't sure the best approach (I'd like to light the arrows depending on the game).
I have to know how many ledwiz units he has running in his cab.

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Re: What is the point of lighting your controls?
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2008, 08:48:00 pm »
I only want the both sticks showing the 8-ways and that's it. 16 connections, which a single Pac-drive will support.