Who has a working World Series the Season? Possible driver issues.

[Chunce DeLeone]

Is there anyone out there has a real World Series the season Machine or Strike Zone Baseball, or Super Baseball Double Paly Home Run Derby, or Baseball the Season II ?
There are two things I have noticed while playing these games Mame.109 and .126u2.  A. When I Aim to Pitch the Yaxis is reversed, When you push down it goes up and when you push up it goes down, left and right are fine.  The quick answer would be to reverse the axis but when you do that pitch execution is wrong becasue it will pitch on the way back instead of the normal back then forward.  B. Also while aiming the lowest you can Aim is right at about the knees of the batter, so you can't Aim low and the only way to pitch low is to pitch Slow. 
I tried this on hacked original controls, a mouse and a keyboard with all the same results.
My question is does this happen on the real machine?
If not I think there is a problem with the game driver.
Thanks

[More Cowbell]

I have a World Series the Season cabinet. Up and down are up and down on the machine. Sounds like you are correct that the axes are switched. Aiming low is indeed done by pitching slow. You can only aim as low as the knees (default). I'm impressed that you're playing it in MAME. The whole reason I bought the cabinet is because I loved the game when i was a kid but couldn't play it accurately or even close to the same controls with MAME. Good luck!

[Chunce DeLeone]

Hey thanks for checking that out!!!!   
Ok so Pitching slow is to aim low, that is great.

But the Axis is switched while aiming,  if this is indeed a driver error in the ROM itself, who should be contacted or atleast informed that this exists??

[jerryjanis]

But the Axis is switched while aiming,  if this is indeed a driver error in the ROM itself, who should be contacted or atleast informed that this exists??

Mame bugs can be reported at the mametesters site.

http://mametesters.org/

I pulled my controls out of the closet (it's been 5 years since I used them last!) and one of them is not working, but I was able to test the game with the working one.  I couldn't get it to work properly with the latest version of Mame.  I tried a few different settings, and I was getting a response from the game.  I could pitch a ball and swing a bat, but not enough that I could properly control either action.  I remembered that it worked perfectly when I had tried it before.  I think that it was working for me around August of 2003, so I downloaded a version of Mame from around that time.  After a little bit of messing with the controls, everything seemed to work fine in Mame v.072b.  Give that version a shot.  Knowing which version it works in is a good start to figuring out what is wrong with the new version.  You can get older versions of Mame from the following page (be sure to download the binary, and not the source):

http://mamedev.org/oldrel.html

Luckily the current wseries rom worked with the old release!

[jerryjanis]

...it's the bottom of the 9th, and it's all tied up.   

(I fixed the 2nd controller and I'm playing right now...  It's a really fun game!)

[jerryjanis]

Now I see what you mean.  In Mame 109 (and 072), it behaves exactly like you said.  When the pitcher is aiming, up and down are reverse of what they should be.  Pitching the ball seems to operate like it should.  Switching the axes makes the pitching no longer work properly.

Were you able to play reasonably well in Mame 126u2?  When I tried to play using Mame 126 or 127, the controls were really screwed up.  For example, on the letter-choosing screen, I'm unable to home in on a particular letter because the cursor flutters around.  In the older versions of Mame, this isn't a problem, and I can home in on particular letters very easily.  Also, using 126 or 127, the controls within the game suffer from the same problems.

[Chunce DeLeone]

I had similar responses with both versions of mame.  Its hard to remeber about the letter choosing screen because as soon as I relized how scured up it was I figured I could get to that later and just skip it.  On 126u2 I only tried the mouse.  I'm convinced it an issue with the driver and will report the bug and see what happens.  I know nothing about the drivers and the development of this great thing, but I gotta believe it an easy fix, well .....hoping!  This game with the original controls is going to be awsome!  Looking to change my whole control panel to a modular one using T-tracks to mount everything, so the WSB CP is perfect for this as it would just have to be scrued to a piece of wood, done deal,  I appreciate the validation dude, 

[Tafoid]

Unfortunately, it's been reported before and confirmed to be working so long as the unique devices are hooked up correctly.  Without the unique controls, this series of games is just hard to use on a normal PC unless your devices mimic 100% the behavior of the original controls.

http://www.mametesters.org/mantis/view.php?id=1317

Control Panel:
http://mameload.mameworld.info/dblplay.png

[jerryjanis]

Unfortunately, it's been reported before and confirmed to be working so long as the unique devices are hooked up correctly.

Actually, I think that Chunce DeLeone may have come accross a bug that nobody has noticed before.  According to what More Cowbell said, it seems that the original game behaves one way, while the Mame version behaves another way.  In Mame, when the pitcher aims, up=down and down=up, but when the pitcher throws, up=up and down=down.  In the original game when the pitcher aims, up=up and down=down, and when the pitcher throws, up=up and down=down.  It doesn't appear to be just a matter of reversing the direction, because fixing the pitcher's aim breaks the pitcher's throw, since both are controlled by the same joystick axis.

[Chunce DeLeone]

Yes, I think this is a new uncovered bug, and I am using the original CP from a World Series machine.  I posted the bug, let see whats happens.     

02168 2 0.127 leland.c Gameplay Major New 2008-08-28 wseries, basebal2, dblplay and strkzone: When Aiming to Pitch up is down and down is up. Chunce1