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Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« on: July 15, 2008, 08:51:28 am »
I received my first LCD Topgun last night, and I must say that after an hour of configurations, the thing works damn near flawlessly.  Everything functions...except any sort of reloading.  Maybe there is a MAME configuration that I have missed, but I cannot reload in ANY MAME game.  For the record, I am using the newest driver from EMS and NOT the gun2mouse driver or whatever it is.  Here is a list of things I have tried:

In MAME:

Enabled lightgun
Set lightgun device as lightgun
Enabled offscreen reloading
Calibrated lightgun (shooting the screen) so pointer is accurate
Set buttons in MAME for the gun

The games I tried were Lethal Enforcers and Revolution X.

Here are the problems I have had with each thus far.  Please note that both games were configured in their respective service menus.

Lethal Enforcers
The cursor is 100% accurate and the shots are on target.  When it comes time to reload, however, nothing I can set or configure will reload the  :censored: guns!

Revolution X
The aiming cursor never leaves the upper left hand corner.  All fire buttons work correctly, but the cursor cannot be moved at all.

From what I can tell, this gun is badass, but something is missing in the configuration.  If anyone has experienced this before, pllleasseeeeee help me!

A couple more questions, as well.  Are there any lightgun games in MAME that will NOT work work with the Topgun?  If I set the calibration in the driver to the values in the wiki, would this improve anything?
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Re: Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 10:46:11 am »
From MAME Docs: config.txt,
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-[no]offscreen_reload / -[no]reload
   
        Controls whether or not MAME treats a second button input from a
        lightgun as a reload signal. In this case, MAME will report the gun's
        position as (0,MAX) with the trigger held, which is equivalent to an
        offscreen reload. This is only needed for games that required you to
        shoot offscreen to reload, and then only if your gun does not support
        off screen reloads. The default is OFF (-nooffscreen_reload).

So, you have two possibilities:

1) Open the TopGun Control Panel or GunCon2 Control Panel and verify that in "Set Offscreen To" Button2 is selected. With this and the "offscreen_reload" enabled, yo will have this: You aim out of screen and pres fire. The TopGun driver send a button2 pressed message to MAME. Witn offscreen_reload enabled, MAME will understand that if button2 is pressed, the game must reload.(This is the ActLabs Compatibility mode).

2) Disable the "offscreen_reload" option in MAME and make sure that "Set Offscreen To" in the TopGun Control Panel" is set to none. The Emulation of the game in MAME is so perfect that acts like the real game, and when you shoot out of screen, it reload the gun.

BTW, Look at the new TopGun driver and the Smogs driver, and find the differences...

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Re: Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 03:09:48 pm »
This sounds like it may solve my issues for lightgun games in MAME.  I will have to try this when I get home.  I will definitely uninstall the EMS drivers and go with the Guncon2pc because I like it's interface and it seems to be more popular.

Does anyone know if Guncon2PC will also handle MAME games that used joysticks for shooting (i.e. T2)?

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Re: Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 10:03:55 pm »
So I checked the settings that were suggested above, and I still have no luck with reloading the gun.  I downloaded Guncon2pc drivers, but I was not totally sure how to fully uninstall the EMS drivers so I went to Device Manager and uninstalled the HID minidriver, and rescanned the computer for new drivers.  At the prompt, I selected the folder with the new Guncon drivers.  Did I do this correctly?

Upon installing the Guncon2PC driver, I noticed that my Topgun isn't even listed on the gun list of the control panel.  So I am back to where I started. 

Lethal Enforcers plays fine.  I am using the infiniate ammo cheat to avoid having to reload, but still....
Still no luck with Revolution X either.  I know this game is a joystick, but I cannot get the game's cursor to move at all.  When doing calibration however, it works flawlessly.

Someone please help me or at least point me in the right direction!!!

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Re: Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 10:32:30 am »
-bump-

Has anyone had this problem before??  I cannot find any relevent information.  I have tried all the advice suggested by forum members and abroad, but to no avail.


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Re: Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2008, 02:37:40 pm »
ddrtist,

I'm also having problem with offscreen reload. Did you manage to find something?

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Re: Can't reload Topgun in MAME
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2008, 06:08:48 am »
I just got the TopGun II yesterday and I also cannot reload.
I'm using the EMS driver. Everything else works fine.

Anyone figure this out yet  :'(?