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Gas pedals, any interest.
« on: May 31, 2003, 10:40:08 am »
No one seems to make a mame gas pedal. and the ones happ sells are pricy and ugly and seem more suited to sit down cabinets.

Would there be any interest in these?

And if so. Would you want an analog one that came with a gameport interface, or would you want a digital "on/off" one that hooked up to your Ipac?

And would you want just the pedal assembly, or a complete pedal bay ready to drop into your cabinet (you would have to make a cutout obviously)?

Just gas pedal, or gas and brake pedal?

Finally, what would you be willing to pay for one?
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2003, 11:53:42 am »
Q1 - Yes, would definitely be interested, if the price were correct.

Q2 - Building desktop controllers.  Not sure how to design it, but would prefer a USB interface, so I can use dual pedals for games that need them, not for others.  Would prefer to have a switch or lever on the panel so it registered as X-axis + for games that needed that, or a button for games that did not.  If that can't be done, would prefer an analog setting, b/c MAME will interpret this as ON/OFF for games that used switches instead of pots, and it would work better for Pot-based games.

Q3 - Would prefer a complete set-up that sits on the ground.  Like what PC wheels come with, but with plenty of weight so they don't slide.

Q4 - gas and brake pedals (and USB so I can hook two of them up for gas, brake, and clutch)

(Alternately, gas only would allow split pedals for either single player gas and brake games, or dual player gas only games . . . if the price were low enough, and you could figure a way to keep the single pedals from sliding around and still keep the base compact enough to allow them to be used side by side for gas/brake.)

Q5 - Me personally, $15 would be ideal, but unrealistic.  $25 would be fair, and I would consider that.  $50 is about the max I would ever go.  I tend to be on the frugal side, so you could very likely ask more than these numbers and still sell pretty well.
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2003, 11:57:21 am »
No one seems to make a mame gas pedal. and the ones happ sells are pricy and ugly and seem more suited to sit down cabinets.

Would there be any interest in these?

And if so. Would you want an analog one that came with a gameport interface, or would you want a digital "on/off" one that hooked up to your Ipac?

And would you want just the pedal assembly, or a complete pedal bay ready to drop into your cabinet (you would have to make a cutout obviously)?

Just gas pedal, or gas and brake pedal?

Finally, what would you be willing to pay for one?


It sounds way cool! I have the ones from the Badlands conversion kit. If you need any technical info it explains them in depth in the manual. I also have taken them apart and they are analog... you can't really tell in play though. They use these funky cone shaped pots... I would rather they be digital because they would be cheaper and easier to interface. After that I can't say I have seen too many for uprights... these are a pretty nice product, but you can't buy them anymore... it would be nice if someone made one! As always I am only willing to pay peanuts.
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2003, 12:07:27 pm »
Q1 - Yes, would definitely be interested, if the price were correct.

Q2 - Building desktop controllers.  Not sure how to design it, but would prefer a USB interface, so I can use dual pedals for games that need them, not for others.  Would prefer to have a switch or lever on the panel so it registered as X-axis + for games that needed that, or a button for games that did not.  If that can't be done, would prefer an analog setting, b/c MAME will interpret this as ON/OFF for games that used switches instead of pots, and it would work better for Pot-based games.

Q3 - Would prefer a complete set-up that sits on the ground.  Like what PC wheels come with, but with plenty of weight so they don't slide.

Q4 - gas and brake pedals (and USB so I can hook two of them up for gas, brake, and clutch)

(Alternately, gas only would allow split pedals for either single player gas and brake games, or dual player gas only games . . . if the price were low enough, and you could figure a way to keep the single pedals from sliding around and still keep the base compact enough to allow them to be used side by side for gas/brake.)

Q5 - Me personally, $15 would be ideal, but unrealistic.  $25 would be fair, and I would consider that.  $50 is about the max I would ever go.  I tend to be on the frugal side, so you could very likely ask more than these numbers and still sell pretty well.

Where I dissagree is I think that they should just be cab mountable. Or maybe they can be easily removed from thier ground setup to go on a cab... or maybe they could be ordered seperatly...
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2003, 12:19:45 pm »
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Where I dissagree is I think that they should just be cab mountable. Or maybe they can be easily removed from thier ground setup to go on a cab... or maybe they could be ordered seperatly...
Okay, I was replying from my perspective.  I am not building a cab.  Prolly never will.  I do plan to build a lot of desktop controls.

I think this board is pretty evenly split (or maybe 70 cab/30 desktop) between cab people and desktop control people.  However, if you wanted to sell these outside of this forum (for people who want good controls for Need4Speed or NASCAR Racing, etc.), most of those will not have cabs at all.

And I think it would be easier to modify a floor controller to hard mount to a cab, than to modify a controller designed for hard mounting to a cab to work free-standing, FWIW.
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2003, 12:43:17 pm »

 Id like a set of nice pedals... instead of the typical plastic ones sold.  I could probably make them myself... but theyd most likly turn out a bit yucky.  Also, I have little to no time to attempt it.

 I think all the pedals should be analog.   As even if there is an incompatibility with that 'now' - it will get fixed eventually (I think mames dual analog controls work well now).   Analog pedals will also work with new race games.

 You could optionally put a set of optics (or some sort of leaf switch?) that act as a digital switch - so that the pedals would be both analog and digital at the same time.

  A clutch pedal should be added as well.  If not used for most games... it could serve as a hi/low or fire button...ect.

  The main issue that I dont like about most pedal sets is the feel of the Brakes.  The brakes should feel harder to press in - like a real car.... yet most are just a duplicate of the gas pedal and are too easy to depress.

  The housing should be pretty durable as feet are pretty strong  heh.  

  An option could be to have the pedals without the housing - to reduce shipping cost... and then those with the skills could make thier own housing for them.  Should reduce the cost as well.

   Id pay 60-100$ if the pedals are of a high quality, analog + switch,  and most importantly have a good brake feel to them.


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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2003, 08:04:59 pm »
I would be interested in seeing a nice set of pedals.

Should they be made to be connected to an encoder? Or strictly an independent device?

I would like to see a unit that can be interfaced to anything... To pc or game consoles.  

I would like to see them be of sturdy design.  If at all possible feel/look as real as possible .

I would like to see a top mount design, basically kinda like what I have in both of my cars.  know what I mean?

I would also like to have removable pedals, so I can go to Autozone and get the gas pedal shaped like a foot :D  Cheezy I know.

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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2003, 02:38:57 am »
PaigeOliver, are you considering putting together a kit?

Also, I little switch connected to the brake pedal would be neat...that way it could trigger a brake light.  Again, cheezy I know.

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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2003, 05:09:35 am »
Q1.  Interested, but not sure if I'll buy one now.  Half a year ago, before I bought a logitech USB wheel + pedals and a pole position gas pedal assembly, I would have.  If the price is nice, and it's a high quality assembly, I'd get one; otherwise I'll probably BMO.

Q2. Analog, but that's a given for me.  (hint: analog+ ;D )  The switch others have talked about would be nice, but not needed or planned to use for me.  Gameport would be okay, but I'd choose USB or that if given a choice.

Q3. How about just the pedal assembly, and assembly with the pedal bay as an add-on?  I think I'd just get the assembly and build the bay myself, but not sure on that.

Q4. I'd prefer both gas and brake.  
With the following output: combined gas & brake on one axis (gas -, brake +), only gas on the next axis, and only brake on the last axis.  (or combined on Y axis, gas axis 4, brake axis 5, but that's just for a "more "standard" directX setup, not important).
I'd like a clutch, too, but that's not all that needed for me, so I won't pay much more for it

Q5. ~$25 for gas only, ~$40 for gas & brake, ~$50 for gas, brake & clutch, give or take a few $s.
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2003, 08:48:08 am »
PaigeOliver, are you considering putting together a kit?

Also, I little switch connected to the brake pedal would be neat...that way it could trigger a brake light.  Again, cheezy I know.

I am considering it.  ;)
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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2003, 02:52:16 pm »
That's because most people get their pedals and steering wheel from ebay :)

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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2003, 03:38:30 pm »
I may be floggin a dead horse but....

I have a super off road unit and have since pulled the wheels and the pedals from it wanting to use it on my big cabinet.

My main unit has a JPAC, OPTIPAC and a 2 player IPAC.
The steering works great, just like a regular spinner - No Problem...

My pedals are the point of interest.

In running ADVMAME with ARCADE OS (all dos)
how can i hook up my analog pedals (2 or 3 - (1 per player)) and use it while in mame (with super sprint etc?)
~ wiring & software?

Please help!
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Here's a picture of my 'ultracade unit' I know that the name was used before but their out of business...


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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2003, 03:52:05 pm »
What we need is a kit pedal that can be added on to the front of a standard cabinet without being in the way for regular games.  I would like one similar to the following Happ pedal ($66 from Happ):



Ideally, this would have both a pot and a microswitch, so it could be read via either method.  I would like to see the pedal be available even without a pot or microswitch; that way, we can hack our favorite gamepad or joystick, add a microswitch or appropriate pot to the pedal's mounting points, and away we go...

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2003, 03:55:36 pm »
Hi Chris,

This is exactly the unit that I own (3 of them) a bit rusty but functional with the pot in it.

Now it's just needing some steelwool, tremclad and most importantly for me to have a clue how to hook it up as is based on the configuration above  ???

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Re:Gas pedals, any interest.
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2003, 04:25:19 pm »
No one seems to make a mame gas pedal. and the ones happ sells are pricy and ugly and seem more suited to sit down cabinets.

Would there be any interest in these?

And if so. Would you want an analog one that came with a gameport interface, or would you want a digital "on/off" one that hooked up to your Ipac?

And would you want just the pedal assembly, or a complete pedal bay ready to drop into your cabinet (you would have to make a cutout obviously)?

Just gas pedal, or gas and brake pedal?

Finally, what would you be willing to pay for one?

Q1:  Yes

Q2:  Analog.  If the pots could be 5K ohm that would be nice for a dual strike hack or to intergrate the pedal assy. in a modular setup with other controls that use the dual strike hack (T2 guns, Star Wars yoke).  Is it possible to use 5K pots in a pedal/steering assy.?

Q3:  I'd want just the pedals and not the bay.  I can figure out how to intgrate the pedals better without a housing.  Perhaps the bay/housing can be an extra that is offered with the assy.

Q4:  Gas and Brake

Q5:  Depends on the quality your offering.  I'll pay for quality.  But quite frankly I don't know how you can compete with what would be out on ebay.  I acutally (along wiht others I'm sure) like the idea of buying authentic arcade controls and refurbishing them back into pristine condition (as many have done with the Star Wars yokes, Spy Hunter yokes, ect....).  If your going to make them out of plastic FORGET IT!