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Author Topic: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur  (Read 4278 times)

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 11:17:15 pm »
Heh ya, I they were being included a while back.  They're doing it similar to Soul Caliber 3 (which has Spawn, Link, and Heihachi) where which bonus character you get depends on which system you buy it for.  I seem to remember the 360 is getting Yoda and the PS3 is getting Vader, although I may have that mixed up.  Either character should be a lot of fun to play.

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 07:00:01 am »
yeah but I think character exclusives still suck. The way they are doing means you cant have Vader VS Yoda, just like you couldnt have Link VS Spawn. Why not just give everyone all 3?  :badmood:
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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 07:22:17 am »
yeah but I think character exclusives still suck. The way they are doing means you cant have Vader VS Yoda, just like you couldnt have Link VS Spawn. Why not just give everyone all 3?  :badmood:

I have seen it said that the character not included would eventually be made available for download (for a price no doubt).



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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 11:18:53 am »
^For download....or just unlocked? Seems to me like they would just put it in there, and make you pay to unlock it.

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 11:23:51 am »
^For download....or just unlocked? Seems to me like they would just put it in there, and make you pay to unlock it.

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me in the least.



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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008, 12:41:36 pm »
Why give you all three, when there are in fact dumbasses out there who own a 360 and a ps3 AND will buy 2 copies of the game? Go find those dumbasses and beat them up if you want to change things for the future.

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 02:49:12 am »
I'm just happy Vader is on the console I own.

Also I can't wait for the hardcore SW fanboys to start going on about how light sabers would cut through the standard weapons.  :laugh2:

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 03:06:03 pm »
Also I can't wait for the hardcore SW fanboys to start going on about how light sabers would cut through the standard weapons.  :laugh2:

Im not a fanboy, but I already thought that, lol
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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 03:30:37 pm »
I'm just happy Vader is on the console I own.

Also I can't wait for the hardcore SW fanboys to start going on about how light sabers would cut through the standard weapons.  :laugh2:



Worse then that, Yoda with a lightsaber?  Are you kidding me?  The jedi known for teaching, and wisdom, and the manifestation how physical strength doesnt matter when you have the force (mental strength) is in a physical fighting game?  That is the most retarded thing of all.  What a ignorant representation of a pristine archetype.

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 03:44:37 pm »
I'm just happy Vader is on the console I own.

Also I can't wait for the hardcore SW fanboys to start going on about how light sabers would cut through the standard weapons.  :laugh2:



Worse then that, Yoda with a lightsaber?  Are you kidding me?  The jedi known for teaching, and wisdom, and the manifestation how physical strength doesnt matter when you have the force (mental strength) is in a physical fighting game?  That is the most retarded thing of all.  What a ignorant representation of a pristine archetype.


Ummmm....


Not exactly Namco behind that one.

You have seen Star Wars I-III right?




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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2008, 04:24:24 pm »

Ummmm....


Not exactly Namco behind that one.

You have seen Star Wars I-III right?





As far as I know, there were three Star Wars movies.  Then some senile dude tried to screw it all up with inconsistencies, horrible attempts at teenage angst, and terrible dialog.  I don't consider those to be canon.   :cheers:

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2008, 05:08:28 pm »
As far as I know, there were three Star Wars movies.  Then some senile dude tried to screw it all up with inconsistencies, horrible attempts at teenage angst, and terrible dialog.  I don't consider those to be canon.   :cheers:


 :cheers:

With this I do agree.

Though I can admit that seeing Yoda whipping around all over the place with a light saber was fun.

I do like that version of Yoda much more than the old near death teacher found in a distant bog Yoda. (That part of Empire has always been my least favorite of the 2 good Star Wars movies.)




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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 06:01:18 pm »
:cheers:

With this I do agree.

Though I can admit that seeing Yoda whipping around all over the place with a light saber was fun.

I do like that version of Yoda much more than the old near death teacher found in a distant bog Yoda. (That part of Empire has always been my least favorite of the 2 good Star Wars movies.)


The very first time I saw him fight Dooku I smiled, but after that instant, it was just dirty.

First off, in Empire, Yoda is 900 some old years old, and due to his death, which appears to be either due to his tuberculosis (brought on by an old and failing immune system), or just plain old age, we can assume he is near the end of his species life expectancy.  I don't think thats too far off of an assumption to make.

So Episode II takes place what, at most 30 years earlier?  Luke is a fairly young hero, during episode VI we know hes at a point in his life where others have moved on to school or join the rebels, while he is still stuck at the farm.  This strikes me as somewhere between 16-20. 

Whats the point?  Yoda in Episode 2 has probably lived 95% of his life.  Maybe I wont be confined to a chair when Im say, 60, but I sure as ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- am not going to be jumping around and doing flips, when I normally walk with a cane!

But thats reality in a fantasy, "His species is very active in spurts in their old age!" Fine, whatever.  The biggest problem, is that it just isn't Yoda.  Thats not what Yoda stands for. 

The impression of Yoda I got from Empire and Jedi, was that you cant judge by appearances, and that when dealing with the force, you cant judge strength with your eyes.  Luke thought lifting the XWing was impossible, which led to one of the biggest and most poignant lessons he learned.  In the prime of his life, and top physical condition, he paled in comparison to Yoda.  Yoda who could barely walk, Yoda, who got winded climbing on stones, and Yoda who wore meek clothing, and lived in a mud hovel.  For all his strength, if he didn't have discipline, and faith, and perseverance, he was not going to succeed.

And the Dark Side represented all the opposing sides.  Physical strength, strength in numbers, short cuts, get rich quick, get strong quick, no hard work needed.  "Join the dark side," Vader says, "and together we shall rule as Father and Son."  Thats it, take this pill, and you will lose weight quick, or gain big muscles, or increase the girth of your manhood.

The whole thing is dripping with traditional archetypes that you can apply it anywhere.  Steroids, relationships with the opposite sex, physical fitness, school work, hell cabinet building/restoring.  Anything that is worth doing, is worth doing right, even if that means you have to put in the work, the discipline and the perseverance. 

The whole damned point of Yoda in the entire universe of Star Wars was that mental strength was not a function of size, youth, flashy dress, or money.  That the light side of the force was about meditation, humility, maybe even sufferance.  It was very monastic, very cerebral.  He was a Jedi Master not because he could beat you with a sword, but because he had mastered the mind.

Lucas just wanted to show off his special effects.  Thats all it was, he ditched the original vision for a moment in the movie for people to clap with glee and talk about afterwards, and it made me feel dirty for being Lucas' whore.  If you want to show "Why Yoda is called a Jedi Master", have him involved in some cerebral force power fight, like the end of Dark City, except cooler.

You cant tell me anyone thought at the end of the original trilogy what Yoda's skill with a lightsaber was, or why was he called master if he was so little.  We knew.  Lucas may think the audience is so stupid that you have to spell everything out *cough* Padme's naming of the kids before she dies *cough*, but come on, no won doubted Yoda, because we all shared in Luke's wonderment when he lifted the X-Wing with ease.  That moment, if you can remember back to it, was so much better, and honest than his stupid spins and flips and Matrix movies with a lightsaber.

And so, seeing Yoda again displayed as a physical fighter, well it just makes me feel dirty again.  Because that wasn't what he represented, and he taught a good lesson, because the original movies were actually good movies, with good traditional roles.  But here we go again, mucking all that up.

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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 06:13:48 pm »
Star Trek is better then Star Wars.






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Re: What the . . . ? Yoda and Vader playable in the next Soul Calibur
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2008, 09:38:38 pm »
Star Trek is better then Star Wars.

I like both, Wrath of Khan is still one of my favorite movies.  What Lucas has done to Star Wars is just exceptionally revolting.