What do you guys/girls use for steering wheel/pedals?

[lanman31337]

I've been kicking around possibly picking up three (yes, a nice even number) of steering wheels and pedal sets to hook up into my arcade machine.  We love Ironman Stewart and it's so much fun with three people.  What sets are you folks using and do they respond well?  I'm probably going to hack the steering wheel on some sort of bracket to hook onto my control panel, and the pedals can stay on the ground somehow.

[Jeff AMN]

Have you seen the TurboTwist 2 steering wheel attachments?

[Minwah]

I have a Pole Position wheel (actually with a Super Sprint wheel itself), Happ throttle/brake pedals and 4-speed (Hard Drivin') shifter.

http://mamewah.mameworld.net/mycabinet.htm

Should have said the wheel is hooked up with a mouse hack. Pedals are interfaced with an AKI, and shifter with an IPAC. It all works perfectly, although recently the pedals have been playing up (I need to replace the pots).

[lanman31337]

Have you seen the TurboTwist 2 steering wheel attachments?

Yes I have, but unfortunately I don't have a TT2.  I have a home made spinner with a mouse hack.

[XtraSmiley]

I have the official Gran Turismo 4 wheel that came out for PS2.  It's USB and works on the computer and a copy of Final Burn with force feedback for Outrun, which is the reason I picked up the wheel.  Now I don't use it so I guess I'll ebay it eventually.

[Demon-Seed]

I have been interested in this topic too. I was considering a driving cade...but I am nervous  about hooking up controls.  I see that happs sells steel pedals etc..but how do they connect? also there is analog and digital games??? not sure on that........ I was considering buying a cruisin usa and hack to mame?? is that possible?

I have been using google and there is some solid ones that may work?
http://www.virtualperformanceparts.com/english/produkte.php

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thx
JIM

[lanman31337]

Those look real nice.  Can you use analog pedals on a digital game, would you have on and off? 

[u_rebelscum]

Can you use analog pedals on a digital game, would you have on and off? 

In mame, Yes.  Mame translates analog to digital fine.  So IMO get analog pedals, as they can be used in both analog pedal and digital pedal games (even if you usually "pedal to the metal" on analog pedal games).

[Minwah]

So IMO get analog pedals, as they can be used in both analog pedal and digital pedal games

What he said

Also, probably not so important but I got a 4-speed shifter to play as many different games as poss. A nice thing about the 4-speed shifters is you can get 'neutral' when you don't want a keypress being sent...hi/lo shifters can do this as well of course but for some games you really need both the NO and NC contacts conntected to an input (ie games which use one button for lo, and another for hi).

It would be nice if all hi/lo shifters were treated the same in Mame...the real pain are the 'Pole Position' type toggle to change gear ones.

[dmel75]

Would the super-fine Logitech G25 Steering Wheel work with MAME racing games like outrun, pole position, Off Road, Sprint, etc?

[Demon-Seed]

I have the same question.. i was considering the logitech g25

[Fozzy The Bear]

I have the same question.. i was considering the logitech g25

The answer is yes and no....... It will work with games that used a 270 Degree wheel, and it won't work with games that used a 360 Degree (or more) wheel.

I picked up a Logitech Momo Racing wheel last week (somebody had sent it to the recyclers.... got it for £3  turned out to be in full working order)  Works great with PC titles, Grand Prix 4 is a blast with force feedback.

Works OK with 270 degree wheel Mame games (mostly... there are some exceptions where I can't get it calibrated or working) but it will NOT work with any Mame game that used a 360 degree (or more) wheel. It's also a total beggar to get it mapped in Mame.

So if you can put up with it working on a limited number of games then the G25 is not bad. Otherwise, you need to use a spinner based wheel. It wouldn't be too difficult to make your own, using a real steering wheel and a couple of bearings and put a turbotwist2 spinner on the other end of the shaft to the wheel.

Hope that helps.....

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
who makes a spinner best one?any with forced feedback?
thx
JIM

[patrickmaher]

Lately I have been wondering how many games would be playable with one of those standard USB wheels. I also was looking at the Logitech G25 but I'm not even sure I care that much about driving games to spend that much.

The answer is yes and no....... It will work with games that used a 270 Degree wheel, and it won't work with games that used a 360 Degree (or more) wheel.

Is this a software or a physical restriction?

I notice that the Logitech G25 has more rotation than the MOMO. Would that make a difference?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxA6BB0gbrI[/youtube]

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
Yea it looks like the g25 spins way more.......i think that those 360 games like super sprint etc require you to spin the wheel right around....  what if you were to use an analog wheel? would it work for digital games? how many 360 games are there? I think there is not that many.... games like super sprint thats about it..

thx
JIM

[u_rebelscum]

Would the super-fine Logitech G25 Steering Wheel work with MAME racing games like outrun, pole position, Off Road, Sprint, etc?

"270 degree" games usually have restricted movement, of about 270 degrees, and use a POT to detect turn.
"360 degree" games usually have unrestricted movement, and use a spinner like (mouse like) sensor to detect turn.
Notice the "usually".

Some 270 games:
outrun
spy hunter
hard drivin' (wheel turned closer to the g25's 900 degrees, but meets the other "270 degree" stuff)

Some 360 games:
sprint (4/8/super/championship)
off road
pole position


As a general rule that has exceptions:
top down track games: 360
in the cockpit race: 270

There are more 270 games (~50% more), and almost all of the newer games with steering wheels fit under "270 games" category, so the differnce is increasing over time.
OTOH, most of my favorite old classics were 360 degree games: super sprint, off road, destruction derby, pole position.

So it depends on what games you like.

[Demon-Seed]

Hey
Wow thanks very much for clarifying that.  I love super sprint. has anyone tried the g25 onit??

thx
JIM

[Minwah]

Wow thanks very much for clarifying that.  I love super sprint. has anyone tried the g25 onit??

No, but I doubt it will work well. G25 will work well for pot-based ~270deg wheel games, not 360deg wheel games.

There is no substitute for an arcade 360deg wheel, other than a spinner. No 'off the shelf' PC steering wheel will be any good for 360deg wheel games.

[Franco B]

Sorry to Hijack but its on topic.

Seeing as im going to get a spinner for driving games too I could do with some pedals.

Does anyone have any experience with these pedals or does anyone have any views on them?



Linky


I take it from you guys are saying it would be best to get tthe pot version and interface it with an AKI to my IPAC?

Looking at the mounting dimensions they would be to deep to mount to my cocktail side  I suppose I could build an extension box, Ill have to go have a measure and a play.

[Paul Olson]

I have those pedals, and I am going to have to build a box for them too. My coin door sits too low to install it in the cab. Those pedals are used in a lot of driving games and they work great. They are the only pedals I know of that work well for both stand-up and sit-down games,

[Franco B]

Thanks bud, ive emailed ponyboy for a quote.

[Minwah]

Does anyone have any experience with these pedals or does anyone have any views on them?

I too have some...restored some I got cheap on ebay. Again, I like them very much...a nice touch is the brake pedal being harder to press down than the throttle (2 springs instead of 1). I have mine interfaced with an AKI.

[Spacedueler]

I recently made my first post to the group about a couple wheels I hacked with a mouse. I'll link to the thread. They are working pretty well for me and the price was right. They will eventually be mounted to a modular section of a modular control panel I will eventually build. I haven't come up with the shifters yet - for now tapping the keyboard. The hacked wheels work great for pole position, championship sprint and ironman steward. For Outrun I use the MadCatz wheel you see in the photos. I left this one unhack-it's a 270 analog.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=79388.0