looking to buy good joystick, anyone recomend these or whats best

[G1zm0]

hi looking for a good joystick 4/8 way easy switchable, i found these on ebay anyone used these or the company?
1st one is http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-ARCADE-JOYSTICKS-MICROSWITCHES-4-8-Way-NEW_W0QQitemZ280208339628QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3945QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

2nd
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARCADE-JOYSTICK-quality-chrome-red-new-boxed_W0QQitemZ290147081974QQihZ019QQcategoryZ3945QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

3rd
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARCADE-JOYSTICK-quality-black-brand-new-and-boxed_W0QQitemZ290183956213QQihZ019QQcategoryZ3945QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

any input appreciated.

[Fozzy The Bear]

Don't touch the second or third ones!!! they're cheap Chinese knock offs... and they're utter utter utter crud!!

As for the first one..... Well they're X-Arcade as sold by Gremlin. So they're not the very best sticks, but they're not bad either. The microswitches on them are very clicky though, I swapped mine out for Cherry switches and they're way better now.

Personally I think gremlin are way way way over priced on most of their stuff (including these) That said, they're reliable enough if you buy from them locally. 

However, the above said...you'll find the prices from Groovy Game Gear and Ultimarc a lot better!!   Also ask Divemaster or Ponyboy on here to quote for that type of stick, again much better price and all four of these guys are 100% reliable.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[G1zm0]

thanx for heads up, i wont touch them, ive asked a few sellers on here if they post to uk, still awaiting answers, will look at marcs stuff later, got ipac ect to order from him, its hard trying to find pink stuff, tmould, buttons, sticks, sticky pink vinyl for kids mame im doing as well

[Fozzy The Bear]

thanx for heads up, i wont touch them, ive asked a few sellers on here if they post to uk, still awaiting answers, will look at marcs stuff later, got ipac ect to order from him, its hard trying to find pink stuff, tmould, buttons, sticks, sticky pink vinyl for kids mame im doing as well

All of the vendors I listed there post to the UK. Also, with the dollar to pound exchange rate so high right now, you get a spanking good deal buying anything from the USA.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[ratzz]

Personally I think gremlin are way way way over priced on most of their stuff (including these) That said, they're reliable enough if you buy from them locally. 

However, the above said...you'll find the prices from Groovy Game Gear and Ultimarc a lot better!!   Also ask Divemaster or Ponyboy on here to quote for that type of stick, again much better price and all four of these guys are 100% reliable.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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