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Bergmann Automaten cabinet
« on: March 25, 2008, 03:17:12 am »
Hi!

Does anyone know something about a German-based arcade cabinets manufacturer called Bergmann Automaten? I`ve googled for some plans/parts description, but found nothing about this company. I`ve recently bought one of their machines to adapt it for MAME, abd among other things that I`ve found inside the cabinet was this weir PCB. Does anyone have an idea what this thing might do?  Wires that come out of the connector were attached to coin door switches, and speakers (as I remember correctly). I`m trying to keep as much of the original parts that came with the machine as possible, so I don`t feel like throwing this away (in case if it turns out to be something useful)... Any info is greatly appreciated. (sorry for my poor english)
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Re: Bergmann Automaten cabinet
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2008, 05:04:37 am »
It's now called Crown:

http://www.crown-tec.de/


Some more info about the company:
http://www.casinovendors.com/Vendor/Bergmann-Automaten-GmbH


I think it's some kind of credit multiplier and sound regulator. Not sure though. Any pics of the full cab ?

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Re: Bergmann Automaten cabinet
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 06:03:10 am »
I think it's some kind of credit multiplier and sound regulator. Not sure though.

I am sure.... It's the credit board.   This board takes the pulses from the electronic coin mech and works out how many of what type of coin has been inserted and then sends the correct number of coin pulses to the game board. The dip switch sets the price of play per game.

For example..... Lets say that the price of play is "one pound" 
1) customer comes along and inserts 1 X 50p coin.... The coin mech outputs 1 pulse on the 50p line, and the credit board sees that, counts (5) and waits for more coin inputs.

2) The customer then inserts 1 X 10p coin.. The coin mech outputs 1 pulse on the 10p line, and the credit board sees that, counts (1) adds it to the previous 5, so the total now (6) and waits for more coin inputs.

3)  The customer continues to insert 1 X 10p coin at a time.. The coin mech outputs 1 pulse on the 10p line each time a coin is inserted, and the credit board sees that, counts (1) for each coin and adds it to the previous total until the customer has inserted 5 X 10p Coins.

4) The customer has now inserted 1 X 50p Coin and 5 X 10p coins..... Total counted by the credit board is now (10)  because a count of 10 = £1 the credit board outputs a single pulse to the game board and the game clocks up 1 Credit.

cyberwaste, I hope that you are taking full notes of all of the connections to the parts you are removing. like this credit board. If you don't keep track of the wiring and don't have original manuals, then these parts could become more or less useless.

Your coin mech and credit board are VERY useful in a Mame machine and there is actually no need to remove them from the cabinet at all.

As it's clear that you have no idea what you're doing, you need to slow down and find out before you go ripping things out of there.

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Re: Bergmann Automaten cabinet
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 10:08:33 am »
Thanx for detailed info.

Right now I`m only trying to figure out which parts of the machine could be used in my project - I haven`t ripped anything out yet. All JAMMA wiring was labelled by previous owner - no problems in this department. Anything arcade-related is extremely expensive and difficult to find here where I live (Eastern Europe), so I`m trying to salvage as much as possible.   

As for the credit board - unfortunately, the coin mechs that are currently inside the machine accept only one kind of tokens (100% mechanical, no circuits) and I have no idea how to modify them to accept coins, so I guess this credit board won`t be much of a use for me anyway, right?

Do I have to buy new electronic coin mechs to make a use of this board?

 

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Re: Bergmann Automaten cabinet
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 12:09:36 pm »
You can generally just rig the mechs so they will take anything. You aren't ever going to use that credit board.
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Re: Bergmann Automaten cabinet
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 07:00:50 pm »
Yeah Fozz, what good is a credit board in a Jamma cab (for home use !) ?