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List of 4-way games?
« on: March 10, 2008, 04:20:54 pm »

I've been searching for a list of all 4-way joystick games, but I haven't had much luck.

Does anyone know how I'd find out which games use a 4-way joystick?

- Thanks!
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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2008, 04:28:29 pm »
Go to http://www.mameworld.net/maws/

click on deluxe search in the top bar to pull down more search options. One of them will be control. Choose 4 way :)

EDIT: this will probably pull up a ton of games. You might want to narrow down your search by monitor orientation and genre if you are looking for particular games
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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2008, 04:35:53 pm »
Thanks! Got it.

That site is awesome.

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 04:38:18 pm »
No problem. Had the same question a few months ago ;)

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2008, 10:49:27 am »
This:
www.waste.org/~winkles/ROMLister

Will allow you to do better narrowing down of roms that work on your machine, which maws isn't really set up to do.  (like all the 4way games that use your monitor orientation, and use 3 buttons or less)

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2008, 02:38:19 pm »
Jeff,
ROMLister looks very cool. I want to give it a try, but I can't seem to locate the controls.dat (or controls.xml) file that I need. It seems that the original site for controls.dat is no longer around?

http://fe.donkeyfly.com/controls/controls.php

Is there another place to get the controls.xml file that I need?

-MFC
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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 03:38:59 am »
Unfortunately I don't really trust the info mame gives about the games and anything outputting stuff based on that is outputting garbage. Although I haven't checked in about a year, I doubt it has been completely fixed in that time.

I manually found all the 4-way/2-way vertical games a few years back and posted them here.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6716

There aren't nearly as many 4-way horizontal games, and even less of those are worth playing.
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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 10:29:01 am »
I've put the 111.2 version of controls.xml up on my site:

http://www.waste.org/~winkles/ROMLister/controls.zip

bummer that fe.donkeyfly is down. 

paige: yes, there are issues in mame's data, which is why I merge it with controls.dat, which is much more accurate (but not up to date on new additions).  I also merge in catver.ini, so you can then filter on the genre of games too.  Still garbage in:garbage out, but the results are not nearly as bad as they used to be. (that was 5 years ago)


Maybe now that donkeyfly is down, someone else (ie not me!) will take controls.dat under their wing and help it stay current?

mfc: good luck-hope RL gives you what you're looking for-check the tutorials in the wiki or PM me if you have any problems.

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 01:48:28 pm »
I'm doing the same sorting, and I found Maws not to be entirely accurate, it lists the Pacman games as Vertical, 4way Joystick, ONE BUTTON. Well pacman is a No button game.

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 02:02:03 pm »
Unfortunately I don't really trust the info mame gives about the games and anything outputting stuff based on that is outputting garbage. Although I haven't checked in about a year, I doubt it has been completely fixed in that time.

I manually found all the 4-way/2-way vertical games a few years back and posted them here.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6716

There aren't nearly as many 4-way horizontal games, and even less of those are worth playing.
You were also missing all the 1942 games, This sorting is a real pain when the stuff is all sorted wrong in mame and maws.

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 03:23:22 pm »
Unfortunately I don't really trust the info mame gives about the games and anything outputting stuff based on that is outputting garbage. Although I haven't checked in about a year, I doubt it has been completely fixed in that time.

I manually found all the 4-way/2-way vertical games a few years back and posted them here.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6716

There aren't nearly as many 4-way horizontal games, and even less of those are worth playing.
You were also missing all the 1942 games, This sorting is a real pain when the stuff is all sorted wrong in mame and maws.

1942 is an 8-way game, IIRC...

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 03:48:54 pm »
Unfortunately I don't really trust the info mame gives about the games and anything outputting stuff based on that is outputting garbage. Although I haven't checked in about a year, I doubt it has been completely fixed in that time.

I manually found all the 4-way/2-way vertical games a few years back and posted them here.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=6716

There aren't nearly as many 4-way horizontal games, and even less of those are worth playing.
You were also missing all the 1942 games, This sorting is a real pain when the stuff is all sorted wrong in mame and maws.

1942 is an 8-way game, IIRC...

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Re: List of 4-way games?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2008, 04:59:56 pm »
I'm doing the same sorting, and I found Maws not to be entirely accurate, it lists the Pacman games as Vertical, 4way Joystick, ONE BUTTON. Well pacman is a No button game.
Yeah, I think MAWS just uses MAME's xml and catver.ini to give you categories too.

ROMLister uses a combination of MAME+controls.dat+catver.ini.

Controls.dat overrides the joystick/button info that MAME has and thus:
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<game name="pacman" sourcefile="pacman.c" cloneof="puckman" romof="puckman">
<description>Pac-Man (Midway)</description>
<year>1980</year>
<manufacturer>[Namco] (Midway license)</manufacturer>
<category>Maze</category>
<controls info>numPlayers="2" alternating="1" mirrored="1" usesService="0" tilt="0" cocktail="1"</controls info>
<player number="1" numButtons="0">
<controls>
<control name="4-way Joystick">
<constant name="joy4way"/>
</control>
</controls>
ok, that's kinda hard to see, but with controls.dat info injected into MAME's xml file, those all get fixed.  0 buttons, 4way joystick.  Even all the 2way joystick issues being 8way inside of MAME's data that paigeoliver was angry about has been fixed.

I'm not dumb enough to say that ROMLister and its input files are perfect, but it really will save you a ton of time from doing this type of work by hand. 

just sayin....

-jeff!
« Last Edit: March 13, 2008, 05:01:27 pm by NOP »