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Author Topic: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?  (Read 2784 times)

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What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« on: March 10, 2008, 01:49:10 am »
So some of the games I really enjoyed were the Super Sprint and Offroad series.  My intention was to use the spinners for driving type games but I seem to be at a snag.

The 'pedal' function in Mame is intended to be mapped to an analogue control (makes sense).  What do you guys use as a work around?  Just map it to a pushbutton and call it a day? 100% acceleration or 0%?
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2008, 08:21:58 am »
Map it to a pushbutton and call it a day. Think of it this way, when did you ever, EVER use half throttle on super sprint? Most people just planted their foot and steered like crazy, the fancy people occasionally took their foot off after a spin but I don't think I ever saw moderate use of that pedal.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2008, 08:43:33 am »
I agree. Just use a pushbutton. I actually find SS to be one of my most played games since I built my cab, and it is surprisingly fun to play with the spinner. I am better at it with the spinner than I used to be with the wheel.

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2008, 09:00:31 am »
Yeah a pushbutton will do, but I have to say some games definately benefit from having an analog pedal. For example it's easier to pull away without wheelspinning in OutRun.

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2008, 11:14:48 am »
Speaking of Outrun, what's the best setup if you have joysticks and buttons only? (well, I have a spinner, but that's out of the question)
Every time I try it in mame, it doesn't seem quite right.

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2008, 02:34:33 pm »
i use my left u360 as the analogue control for the gas pedal...works like a charm with super sprint & the like...

a buddy of mine & i tried to play spy hunter yesterday to no avail though...way too many buttons... :'(

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2008, 03:25:45 pm »
So how do you go about making the pedal / accelerator a button? Manual INI editing?  The MAME UI doesn't seem to want to accept the mapping when I press it.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 04:09:40 pm »
i use my left u360 as the analogue control for the gas pedal...works like a charm with super sprint & the like...

Thanks for the reply. How about somebody with standard joysticks and buttons? (I'm using Happ Universals and Happ concave buttons)

Also, with my two player setup, how would I go about setting the shifter to Joy 2? Every time I try to set the buttons up in Outrun, it gets all goofed up somehow.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2008, 04:28:20 pm by GinsuVictim »

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2008, 12:34:35 pm »
So how do you go about making the pedal / accelerator a button? Manual INI editing?  The MAME UI doesn't seem to want to accept the mapping when I press it.

Analog input ports have three inputs.  The first, "xxx Analog", is for mapping analog devices to the analog port.  The other two, "xxx Inc" and "xxx Dec", are for mapping digital inputs devices to the analog port.  For example: an analog input, say analog joystick, would be mapped to "xxx Analog", say the x axis.  OTOH, if you only had a digital 8-way joystick, you would need to map joyright to "xxx Inc" and joyleft to "xxx Dec".  Mame will not accept digital inputs to the "xxx Analog" part, so...:

For pedal, just map your button to the "Pedal x Inc". 

One thing to watch out for is mame automatically converts an analog device's input to digital if mapped to any digital port, including "xxx Inc" and "xxx Dec".  If your analog device isn't acting as well as you expect, check and make sure the analog axes are NOT mapped to the "xxx Inc" or "xxx Dec" ports.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2008, 02:22:19 pm »
Speaking of Outrun, what's the best setup if you have joysticks and buttons only? (well, I have a spinner, but that's out of the question)

Personally, I would forget it...

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2008, 02:50:24 pm »
It's Outrun. You can't just forget Outrun.
I may wind up building a CP with a steering wheel I can change out, but until then, I wanna play it however I can.

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2008, 03:20:19 pm »
It's Outrun. You can't just forget Outrun.

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I may wind up building a CP with a steering wheel I can change out, but until then, I wanna play it however I can.

That's more like it ;-) I just meant really you can't play OutRun with anything other than a wheel.  You can get away with a digital throttle, but you need an analog wheel.  I'm looking forward to the day my suitable control panel is done...until then I don't play OutRun!

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2008, 05:44:43 pm »
i use my left u360 as the analogue control for the gas pedal...works like a charm with super sprint & the like...

a buddy of mine & i tried to play spy hunter yesterday to no avail though...way too many buttons... :'(

Me too, and eventually I hope to have 2 Mini racer wheels mounted next to the U360's for side by side racing on games like super sprint and the like.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2008, 05:49:11 pm »
I had Outrun dedicated cabinet...well...Turbo Outrun.  I grew bored with it when I played through the entire game in all of about 30 minutes.

I do regret making the trade I did when I got rid of it though.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2008, 12:24:50 pm »
Out run is "perfectly" playable with a digital joystick by tweaking the analog parameters you will have the sensation of playng the Genesis/Megadrive version though
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 08:33:29 pm »
As someone wisely stated in a similar thread:

You just plant your foot (or finger) on the accelerator and skid sideways to slow down!

Many of my friends accuse me of driving my real car the same way.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2008, 12:23:09 pm »
I drive my real car that way. Are there any other ways?
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2008, 02:24:14 pm »
Out run is "perfectly" playable with a digital joystick by yewking the analog parameters you will have the sensation of playng the Genesis/Megadrive version though

As stereotype English people say: 'that's just not cricket'.

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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2008, 09:34:16 pm »
Out run is "perfectly" playable with a digital joystick by yewking the analog parameters you will have the sensation of playng the Genesis/Megadrive version though

As stereotype English people say: 'that's just not cricket'.

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Agreed, it isn't as cool without the right controls. Outrun isn't a game I take that seriously, though. Pole Position on the other hand I do. I've about pushed that game to the limit of not having a throttle pedal. PP2 is barely managable, and I've only just barely finished the race once on the Fuji track...and maybe the Test track.
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Re: What do you use for the 'accelerator' function?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2008, 10:31:24 am »
Agreed, it isn't as cool without the right controls. Outrun isn't a game I take that seriously, though. Pole Position on the other hand I do. I've about pushed that game to the limit of not having a throttle pedal. PP2 is barely managable, and I've only just barely finished the race once on the Fuji track...and maybe the Test track.

Very true...you *need* an analog pedal in PP so you can ease off slightly round corners and just hang behind cars while you wait for a gap.