Carnevil MAME Question

[mrserv0n]

Hi, Carnevil does not run well obviously through mame, I have Zinc and its not on the list, does anyone know if this game has been developed for any Emulator ?

[Jdurg]

There are no other emulators for Carnevil.

[rufio]

Carnevil runs fine on my machine, you just need to setup the lightguns in the service menu and have a somewhat good computer.

[Ginsu Victim]

Man, it runs like crap on mine. (Not that I care about playing it, but I tried and it was SLOOOOOW)

My setup:
AMD x2 +3800 (dual 2 Ghz)
1 GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1650 512MB PCI-e
XP SP2
MAME32fx .123

[Jdurg]

Man, it runs like crap on mine. (Not that I care about playing it, but I tried and it was SLOOOOOW)

My setup:
AMD x2 +3800 (dual 2 Ghz -- runs at 5.7)
1 GB of RAM
ATI Radeon x1650 512MB PCI-e
XP SP2
MAME32fx .123

So you have your AMD running at 5.7 GHz?  I highly doubt that.  Having a dual core CPU at one speed is not equivalent to two times the speed of the CPU. 

Also, I've been seeing a lot of people having trouble with dual-core AMD CPUs with regards to speed.  I guess they aren't even close to what Intel can put out.

[rooter]

Also, I've been seeing a lot of people having trouble with dual-core AMD CPUs with regards to speed.  I guess they aren't even close to what Intel can put out.

That may be true for the way MAME is typically compiled, but benchmarks for almost all other applications do not show that to be true.

I have been having troubles with speed with my dual core AMD CPU and MAME, but only when I run the 64bit version.  The 32bit version runs flawlessly.

[Ginsu Victim]

So you have your AMD running at 5.7 GHz?  I highly doubt that.  Having a dual core CPU at one speed is not equivalent to two times the speed of the CPU.

That's just going according to what the "Can I run it?" site said my system was clocked at.

[taz-nz]

You really need a Core 2 Duo (overclocked is best) and 64bit OS, and run 64bit MAME

Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 4.4ghz vs MAME 0.123u1.   (benchmark run on MAMEUI 64bit v123.1 in Vista Ulimate 64bit)
- carnevil   301.32%

figure 150% benchmark will run 100% smooth all the time in game and that makes the requirement about a Core 2 Duo 2.4ghz

[Fozzy The Bear]

Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 4.4ghz vs MAME 0.123u1.   (benchmark run on MAMEUI 64bit v123.1 in Vista Ulimate 64bit)
- carnevil   301.32%

Except as usual, Taz is talking rubbish, because at the moment and probably for a significant amount of time, your light guns won't work in Vista. There are some very serious driver problems and no plans by manufacturers to update them right now.

So it's more than a bit pointless being able to run it at full speed in there if you cant actually play it in there.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[taz-nz]

Except as usual, Taz is talking rubbish, because at the moment and probably for a significant amount of time, your light guns won't work in Vista. There are some very serious driver problems and no plans by manufacturers to update them right now.

So it's more than a bit pointless being able to run it at full speed in there if you cant actually play it in there.

Lets see MAME 32bit 0.123u3 Windows XP Pro 32bit benchmarks for Carnevil:

224.36% (190% in game actual)@ 4.4ghz DDR2-980
122.18% (104% in game actual)@ 2.4ghz DDR2-800

Oh look at that!, I was right a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo can run carnevil without issue, guess Fozzy The Bear is wrong as usual. Though looking at those benchmarks I would suggest 2.6ghz to be safe if your running mame 32bit on XP for the light gun support.

Since the topic has been brought up, there is a solution for those wanting a light gun that works in Windows Vista in the form of the Nintendo Wiimote, you need a USB bluetooth dongle, Wiimote,Wiimote lightgun adaptor, Sensor bar (Wii Light bar), and GlovePie software to make this work. I haven't yet tested this myself because I only did the research on it last weekend, but a quick search on google or youtube turns are plenty of working examples of the Wiimote working as a mouse in Vista, which is one very short step to being used as a light gun in M.A.M.E. , I will in time test this for myself and post the result here if someone doesn't do it first.

Fozzy, no one asked about lightgun support, they asked about Carnevils preformance and based on the fact I've benchmark that ROM probably over a hundred times now, I feel that I was qualified to give advice as to want is required to run it a full speed, I used the a Vista 64bit benchmark score because it was what I had handy and was most current, and then scaled that score with a safety margin to where people are more likely to be running their system. I've yet to see you make a postive contribution to this forum, all your posts seem to consist of attacking others for having Ideas that are not your own, or stating your opinion over and over no matter how irrelavant the opinion is to the topic at hand, in what appears to be the pathetic hope that someone will take you opinion as fact. Get over yourself, and come up with some real and relevant facts next time before you try attacking me. (At this point I'm sure you will ignore all the facts at hand and instead reply with a personal attack of some form or something equal irrelavent to this thread.)

[BASS!]

Lets see MAME 32bit 0.123u3 Windows XP Pro 32bit benchmarks for Carnevil:

224.36% (190% in game actual)@ 4.4ghz DDR2-980
122.18% (104% in game actual)@ 2.4ghz DDR2-800

Oh look at that!, I was right a 2.4ghz Core 2 Duo can run carnevil without issue, guess Fozzy The Bear is wrong as usual. Though looking at those benchmarks I would suggest 2.6ghz to be safe if your running mame 32bit on XP for the light gun support.

I have to say, everything here is true, I just ran carnevil for the first time and it ran as smooth as glass. As far as the wiimote thing goes, I just can't see myself hacking a wiimote just to play time crisis or the like. If someone could do it as a business hacking the wiimote and putting the guts into a happ gun chasis or a cheaper ps2 guncon I would be all over it. The only person I see pulling this off is Ben Heck. If he can make these, then he could hack a wiimote. Anyone here have the conection to maybe have something fabricated for a prototype?



There is also http://www.polycase.com/ that makes custom enclosures that if someone wanted to make a prototype we could crank em out.