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FedEx no better than UPS
« on: February 21, 2008, 07:11:52 pm »
Well I ordered a piece of glass from OneDayGlass in the US.  The pricing was fine, the shipping was a bit high but still less expensive than local.

Unfortunately the meat heads declared the value of goods + the value of the service to pack it + the value of the shipping costs.   :banghead:

I'm sure you can figure out the rest.  Brokerage fees are expensive and the rep from the company gives me some big long run around about how if the package was lost in shipping they'd need to be reimbursed the amount.

I tried to explain to them that you don't declare the value of goods + whatever service fees as well as the shipping fees.   At any rate they agreed to ammend the declaration document but I can see this turning into a big thing.

Why do shipping companies hate Canada?

In other news apparently FedEx attempted delivery of my checkerplate / diamondplate ... while I'm sitting here.  Curious I don't recall their truck pulling up.
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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 07:20:42 pm »
And because it just isn't FedEx's day, they have no information about their "attempt" to deliver.  I explained that it would be difficult for me to miss a large FedEx truck out my front window.

I think I'm just going to go pick it up at their warehouse and call it a day.
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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 07:25:06 pm »
Well now I know they're full of it. 

Feb 21, 2008       4:43 PM     
      
   Delivery exception      
      
   CALGARY, AB     
      
   Customer not available or business closed 

It's now 5:24 and the guy on the phone at FedEx advises that the truck is already back at the depot.  That truck must have a quantum teleportation device built in, because it get across the city during rush hour in 40 minutes in a truck is a miracle.
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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 01:25:52 am »
Call and complain. They did that to me last year, I waited for 2 hours downstairs for my hdtv. When I finally went back up because they didn't show up, when I checked my email lol and behold  Delivery exception, he had supposedly shown up when I was downstairs  :laugh2:.
So I called and complained, and the guy delivered my tv the next day. (usually it's one person responsible for a certain zone)

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2008, 08:10:47 am »
My last Fedex package came in with $10 in brokerage fees (plus taxes and duties) ... that's only $5 for than Canada Post and is reasonable (compared to the unknown/eleventy dollars that UPS charges).

As for declaring the value of fees and shipping in the customs declaration, I'm pretty sure that is against the law, so you should smack the shipper good.

I have had individual truck drivers skip out on delivery saying that I wasn't there ... last time was a Purolater driver trying to report that I was not there while delivering a bunch of servers. Sadly for him he was already late and I was on the phone the Purolater customer service at the exact time he said he attempted delivery. Oops.
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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 08:26:28 am »
I have had individual truck drivers skip out on delivery saying that I wasn't there ... last time was a Purolater driver trying to report that I was not there while delivering a bunch of servers. Sadly for him he was already late and I was on the phone the Purolater customer service at the exact time he said he attempted delivery. Oops.

This is common worldwide for Fedex and UPS..... I've had drivers fail to turn up at all and then claim that they tried to deliver.  Strangely enough they left no card here to say they tried to deliver. Smaller couriers even in the UK are more reliable than these clowns.

It seems to me that your US Postal Service has been without doubt the most reliable service when I've ordered something from the USA. That in fact gets handed over to the Royal Mail when it arrives in the UK. They're usually not too bad. I can only recall two instances when I've had a problem with them and I do ship and receive a lot of stuff.

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 08:47:29 am »
Don't even get me started on delivery services. Last week I sent a Bar-Top machine to a customer in Europe, and most of the handling was done by UPS. Wanna see what happened to it?

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2008, 08:52:01 am »
A typical UPS delivery: ;D

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2008, 09:26:40 am »
My last Fedex package came in with $10 in brokerage fees (plus taxes and duties) ... that's only $5 for than Canada Post and is reasonable (compared to the unknown/eleventy dollars that UPS charges).

As for declaring the value of fees and shipping in the customs declaration, I'm pretty sure that is against the law, so you should smack the shipper good.

I have had individual truck drivers skip out on delivery saying that I wasn't there ... last time was a Purolater driver trying to report that I was not there while delivering a bunch of servers. Sadly for him he was already late and I was on the phone the Purolater customer service at the exact time he said he attempted delivery. Oops.

I'm pretty sure it's against the law as well.  And yet they say that's how they 'always' ship product.  They claim they're going to fax a fixed declaration this morning but I'm going going to hold my breath.
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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 09:49:06 am »
---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- my fedex guys keep giving my packages to other people  :timebomb:

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 11:56:34 am »
That's a shame. Monday night, I placed orders at three different sites:
Ultimarc (UK), MikesArcade (Utah), and ArcadeEmulator.net (right here in Oklahoma)

The funny thing is, today I received the shipments from the UK and Utah, but the one that's only 2 1/2 hours or so away I have yet to receive.



If I'm not mistaken, ArcadeEmulator.net = divemaster127 here.  Try PM'ing him.  I've ordered stuff from him both here and on ebay, both times it was kind of slow (probably ordered stuff he doesn't keep in stock).  In fact, I'm hoping that today I receive the final part of an order I place a month ago.

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 12:20:16 pm »
---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- my fedex guys keep giving my packages to other people  :timebomb:

A couple of years ago my wife ordered a luggage set.  For some reason the various bags shipped from 3 different locations.  The UPS guy delivered each of the 4 boxes to 4 different locations on our street.  Took us a week to find them all.

Other than that one instance, though, UPS/USPS/FedEx have all been pretty damn good for me in my area.  I get a lot of small packages, and recently some big ones, with the only problems coming when the weather is bad.

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 01:28:33 pm »
Our favourite UPS botch-up is that the driver will accept cash for any COD/brokerage/whatever fees, at the moment that he delivers the package.  However, they have a corporate policy to NOT issue a receipt if you pay cash.

Now... when the driver neglects to record the payment properly back at the office and UPS sends their collection agency after you, the only thing they're willing to accept as proof of payment is a receipt from the driver.

When I called UPS to complain about their crummy service the person on the other end confirmed again that they have a policy of not issuing receipts if anyone pays in cash (but that they do accept cash and encourage their third-party delivery agents to accept that over any other form of payment).  Fortunately, she totally understood the irony in their (a) not issuing a receipt, but then (b) only being willing to accept said receipt as proof of payment.

In the end it got sorted out, but it took several weeks of arguing with their collection agency here in Canada.

And, like everyone else, the vast majority of UPS shipments we receive here are damaged.  More than half of the boxes we've received looked like they'd been used as soccer balls.  One package was damaged so badly that half of the pushbuttons in the box had fallen out at some point along the way (and somehow the driver still thought we'd want to accept the package?!?).

FedEx, OTOH, hasn't (fortunately) given us any grief (yet).  They too use a third-party delivery agent here (I live rural), but their packages always arrive intact and we're not gouged on brokerage.

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 04:44:45 pm »

 Well, Ive had a few issues with UPS...   and have been hoppin mad before...

  But I actually got hired by them to help over the holiday season,  a few weeks before xmas.

 I give those guys big props for the job they have to do.   Its insane.

 
  The truck was loaded with like 300 packages.   The labels are fairly small.   The packages are
supposed to be put on the truck in a special order - but many times packages are not in
the correct place.   Also, there are no real 'separators'... so one can only speculate as to the
general area...  and really have to manually scan over packages several times to check them.

 They have this Ancient clipboard that has a hard to read calculator like display on it.   It tells
them the basic order of what stops to hit first.   Sometimes its wrong and they have to edit it.  Sometimes it says packages are on the truck... and yet,  they were not loaded.  (thus making
you waste 8 min searching the entire truck for it)   

 Everyone has their house numbers in different places... and many are not easy to see and read.
Some houses have driveways that are like 300 ft.   If you found that was the house..  you then
have one helluva trek to get to the door.   Up and down HUGE Icy hills,  slippery steps, and unplowed
drives and yards with 2ft deep snow.   I had one stop where the guy said he would come back
for me in 8 min... cause the hill was too steep and slippery for the truck to go down.   The walk to
the single house was insane.   About  4 min each way.   Climbing that hill nearly sapped all the energy
I had...  and I still had a Long day ahead.

 There were Dogs that were no so friendly.  One tried to nip my rear several times.

 You would carry these packages 80+ ft  to the door,  and then nobody would show
up.   You then had to fill out a paper, as well as log the computer, and mark the package...
then lug it back to the truck.  Many times doing that several days in a row.   All this taking up
precious time that you dont have to spare.

 The pace was furious.   The driver would be hauling butt with the truck.. and the seat wasnt
very comfortable.  You litterally are bouncing around and being thrown left to right from the
constant turning forces.   The truck would drive for like 30 seconds.. then you were to walk
as fast as possible with the package to the door.  They didnt want you to run,  but they
wanted the closest thing to it.  heh      When it got icy,  that made things a lot harder.  Slowed
you down considerable... and almost kill yourself from slipping with a package.

 I was only working from 4 to 6 hrs..   and there was not stopping for a pee break.   You
had to hold it.   I barely was able to cram a bit of food that I brought into my gut.   I was
nearly consistently in motion the entire time.

 After one day, my feet were on fire.  My entire body ached all over.   The next day, my
condition got worse.  I was so overworked,  that my entire body was on fire and in
intense pain.   It was probably the hardest job Id ever done in my entire life.   I tell you,
after my 3 weeks, I was in pretty good shape!  heh

 
 The packages were handled with decent care.   However,  there were packages that
were really banged up.   Its my belief that the machines and conveyor belts that these
things go thru before they hit the trucks may be the culprit.    Also, many people just
dont package things well at all at all.   The heavier and more bulky something is,  the
more likely the box will suffer damages,  and also will shift around inside the box.  If
your box is single layer... or too thin... its gona shred and rip.   If the package doesnt
have like 2" foam on all sides.. the things gona smash into the sides and rip the box..
or other things will do the same.   You have to be realistic.

 The most annoying thing to do was to bag packages when it was snowing heavy or
raining.   They are of course hard to open, statically charged..  flapping in the winds... and not so
easy to stuff things into.  Esp when you are in a hurry.

 

 My friend actually works for Fed Ex.   And while he makes decent money.. he does not
have any health care of benefits.   As most of the FedEx routes are privately owned.. and he
works for the owner of that route.

   

 So, anyways,  I have a new respect for these guys.  Its a real tough job, and they do
it very well considering.   I think the main fault is the actual way in which the company expects
them to perform.   These companies need a  GPS  units in the trucks to help them find things
with much greater ease.   They also need better labeling tags.  Maybe color coded with Huge
print... or RFID tagged to beep when hand scanner is near.   They need a system of securing if
a person is actually home or not in advanced... such as a system where the uses can
log in and cancel a delivery for that particular day or time.  They need to give their drivers a
MegaHorn of some sort - to blast on the way to the door :P    They should never have a policy to
leave a package in a 'spot'.    Instead,  it should be kept at the station pending a user to pick
it up.   I believe most would prefer this method.   Or at least have the option of keeping the
package at the station when they state the delivery preferences.

 Also, the Govt should mandate a standard,  so that all houses have a very clear house number on
the lawn by the roadside.   Similar to the License plate - where they are all the same.   
An in-ground locking package box might also be another nice thing to add.

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2008, 05:07:40 pm »
Xiaou, how long ago was this? These days with everything being barcoded, scanned and recorded electronically, it must be very difficult to screw up like that. (You'd think they scan each package as it goes on the truck... so how can a package not be on the truck unless human error is involved, unloading a package to the wrong destination... not scanning it when delivering... I don't understand how such screw ups can happen in this day.)
NO MORE!!

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Re: FedEx no better than UPS
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2008, 05:28:29 pm »

 It was just this last xmas past.    Yup,  I cant understand how it can happen either. 
But  I didnt work in the truck loading position.   Only was a package runner.   So I do
now know types of things can go wrong in such a place.   

 I can only assume that a person might scan a bunch of things,  then start to load them
in,  and accidentally not put one on.    Or maybe its the actual barcode reading itself...
where its registering the wrong number, and the loader does not have time to verify.

 Also, Its not uncommon to see that either the person who orders has mistyped their
own address in... or that the shipper has mistyped the address.   There might even be a
UPS person who mistypes info in the loop as well... but Im not sure really.


 They did lose my LCD HDTV,  and its  37" and came in a HUGE box!... and I have No idea how
anyone could lose such a thing!   I tend to believe that there is a bit of corruption
somewhere in the loop.