Losing my mind / coin mech wiring (switch)

[Avrus]

So I've been up for about 6 hours finishing up the control panel wiring.  Of all things I'm jammed up on the coin mech / coin door wiring.  And no ... not the light bulbs

I have a 2 player over/under Happ coin door with 2 Canadian mechs.  The mech seems fine, a coin drop activates the switch but I don't think I have the switch wired properly.

It's labelled VERY poorly, and I had to take it apart.

It appears to be a Crouzet Miniature switch, model 831370, the diagram certainly matches:

http://www.crouzet-usa.com/catalog/sensors/_83137.shtml

The problem is, it's not labelled NO, NC and ground.  It's labelled 1, 2 and 4 without any indication of what is what.

So far I've tried ground on 1, and then NO on 2 and 4 without any success.

Please help me before I start drinking.  Heavily.

[grantspain]

you need to connect the outer two

[Avrus]

you need to connect the outer two

Can you re-post by which you mean by outer two?  2 and 4?  And which is ground and which is NO?

[Neverending Project]

what he means by outer two is if you look at the side of the switch, it would be the lead bent 90 degrees, and the lead on the top. So there would be one lead between them not hooked up.

Do you have a multimeter? You could save some time by probing the leads using the continuity function. Hook the black lead to the bent lead, and the red probe to one of the other two. If the meter shows a reading, you are looking at the NC. If it only shows a reading when you push the switch, that is the NO.

[grantspain]

1-common or ground
4-normally open n/o mainly used on coin switches
2-normally closed n/c mainly used with joysticks or buttons
the multimeter advice is spot on,not only do you prove how the switches functions it will also show if the switch is faulty

[protokatie]

4-normally open n/o mainly used on coin switches
2-normally closed n/c mainly used with joysticks or buttons

I think you have your "normally used.." things messed up a bit...

If a button is linked to normally closed (NC) then it is telling the encoder that the button is always pressed down (until you actually press down on it, then the encoder gets the signal it isnt being pressed down).

IE Closed = complete circuit

Opened = broken circuit (IE no electric flow)

[grantspain]

sorry did i ---fudgesicle--- up again,thanks for pointing it out

[protokatie]

sorry did i ---fudgesicle--- up again,thanks for pointing it out

That's TEN demerits little one!

Actually, from what I have heard thus far, mixing up the NO and NC connections are the most common mistake (And a pretty easy one to make with dozens of wire connects crammed into a tiny space). Luckily it is also a very easy one to fix

[Avrus]

Figured it out.  The issue was the switch needs to be grounded to the Mini-Pac it's hooked to.  Since I have 3, I had it grounded to the wrong Mini-Pac.