Cash in the walls

[billf]

Contractor, Owner Feud Over Hidden Cash:
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I totally side with the homeowner on this.  The owners even offered 10% to the contractor and he said no. 

[Hoopz]

You better go rip up your walls to look for cash!  Tell your wife that it will make you rich.   

Definitely agree with the homeowner.  Once she bought the house, all things in it, both good and bad, belong to her.  Doubt he would be offering to pay for 40% of any other problems they found behind the wall....

[SithMaster]

If the contractor wins just counter sue for damage to home.

How can finders keepers apply when it is something in your home?  Even if it was hidden in the walls he wouldnt of found it if she didnt have him over to remodel the bathroom or whatever.  What a jerk.

[btp2k2]

The Bluth Company must have been contracted to design that house

[SithMaster]

The Bluth Company must have been contracted to design that house

I get it 

[shardian]

Wow. Just...wow. First off, I would NEVER allow a contractor to touch the inside of my house unless I was present.

Anyways, I totally agree that the stuff was on her property and inside her house. Therefor the contractor has absolutely zero claim to it. Damn, suppose I walk into your house, look under the couch and find a safe. "Hey, I found a safe! You had lost it and I found it so its mine!".

It was at least honest of the fellow to actually call the owner and let her know. I would just like to know where along the line he got the idea he was entitled to HER personal property? Did some scumsucking lawyer put the bug in his ear or what? A 10% finders fee was MORE than fair.

[AtomSmasher]

The Bluth Company must have been contracted to design that house

I get it 

There's always money in the banana stand.

[vizzinni]

The Bluth Company must have been contracted to design that house

I get it 

There's always money in the banana stand.

didn't it burn down?

[BMW Z1]

Honesty is not always the best policy I would say in this case.
Yeah the homeowner owns anything that was found on her property, but had it not been found by the contractor, who’s to say it would have ever been found in her lifetime!

I think the contractor should at least get 20% as that’s not a lot to give away, considering she’s not exactly lost anything.

How would you feel if you were in his position? 

[shardian]

How would you feel if you were in his position? 

If I were in his position I wouldn't expect a dime, and would have graciously accepted a 10% finders fee.

[FrizzleFried]

How would you feel if you were in his position? 

If I were in his position I wouldn't expect a dime, and would have graciously accepted a 10% finders fee.

Oh yeah...$50K for a job is pretty damn good!

[billf]

How would you feel if you were in his position? 

If I were in his position I wouldn't expect a dime, and would have graciously accepted a 10% finders fee.

Exactly!

[Dartful Dodger]

If you were in his position you wouldn't expect a dime, and you wouldn't give a dime about it.

I saw a lot of junk in the walls and in the ground while I was working with a sewer company and it’s all junk so you don’t think twice about it.  There was one metal box at a grade school that I still wonder about.  We were putting in a drainage pipe under a stairwell.   It was a tight space so we didn’t have a lot of room to work with.  The box could have been face down locker.  We dug out about a quarter of it but we didn't have to dig the hole any wider so we didn’t and it was too heavy to pull out of the ground so we didn’t bother with it.  After we put in the pipes we filled the hole with concrete and left.  My boss at the time told us to leave it alone.  Half joking he said if we find a kid in that thing this job and our pay would  be delayed for at least a month.

He's a high school friend.  That's probably why he called her when he found it.  Otherwise she wouldn't have known.  Even if she were watching him like a hawk if he wasn’t friends with her that bag would have just been thrown into a dumpster and if he thought it had any value he would have fished it out latter.  He defiantly wouldn't have looked around for more.

[FrizzleFried]

Personally,  I hope the judge laughs in his face and gives her 100%...dude should have taken the 10% and been happy...

[DaveMMR]

The Bluth Company must have been contracted to design that house

You're thinking of a banana stand.    Only thing in Bluth houses are fake turkeys with cereal inside, a fake Peter and the Wolf record, Tobias' secret stash of bodybuilding magazines and other "Homefill" goodies.

Secondly, wasn't that whole "cash hidden in the walls of an old house" the premise of a very bad episode of "What's Happening!"?

Ahh, I love random TV references.

[Daniel270]

I'd never get that lucky...

Probably would be more like my mom trying to remodel a bathroom in a trailer she used to live in.   Found an old coke can sitting on a beam inside the wall from back when they build the trailer.. lol.  That's my usual luck

[TOK]

I'd never get that lucky...

Probably would be more like my mom trying to remodel a bathroom in a trailer she used to live in.   Found an old coke can sitting on a beam inside the wall from back when they build the trailer.. lol.  That's my usual luck

Me either. My house was built in the early 50's and I bought from the original owner. I tore a closet out and found an old Beatles trading card. I currently have the downstairs bathroom completely gutted. All that I found in the wall was a prehistoric superball that barely bounces anymore and some hay and string some critter brought in. There was a crack at a spigot at one time, and he got into the wall behind the tub! 

[shardian]

All I found behind the walls in my bathroom renovation was a MASSIVE carpenter ant nest.

Those things are ---smurfing--- huge and nasty.

[SNAAKE]

20% would be fair. he could have just taken the money but he called her instead. something to think about...

[ChadTower]

Me either. My house was built in the early 50's and I bought from the original owner. I tore a closet out and found an old Beatles trading card.

I remember reading as a kid about this family that ripped open their attic to renovate and found piles and piles of baseball cards from the early 20th century... it was something like $1.5mil in nearly extinct cards.  Apparently the original owners had used them, among a million other random things, as insulation.  It was in the Beckett baseball price guide, I think.

[danny_galaga]

All I found behind the walls in my bathroom renovation was a MASSIVE carpenter ant nest.

Those things are ---smurfing--- huge and nasty.

the only thing we found in the walls of our kitchen reno was some shoddy, shoddy carpentry 

[shardian]

20% would be fair. he could have just taken the money but he called her instead. something to think about...

Sorry, but "I could have stole it - you're lucky I'm honest" is not a valid argument and the judge will laugh him out of the courtroom if he pulls that.

The lady does not owe him anything. He was there to renovate the bathroom, he was being paid for his work. Good for him for being honest. He should feel good about himself. That doesn't mean he's entitled to anything.

When you find someone's wallet and return it to them, you don't say "Here's your wallet I found. I should let you know though that I took half the money out of it - you know, since I'm entitled to it for finding it for you".

[shardian]

the only thing we found in the walls of our kitchen reno was some shoddy, shoddy carpentry 

Well I found that too.

[patrickl]

We found a few boxes of old stock certificates. They looked quite beautiful, but they didn't have much value.

[Hoopz]

20% would be fair. he could have just taken the money but he called her instead. something to think about...

Sorry, but "I could have stole it - you're lucky I'm honest" is not a valid argument and the judge will laugh him out of the courtroom if he pulls that.

Didn't David Foley try that?   

[danny_galaga]

wheres shmokes?

[shmokes]

Legally, she doesn't owe him anything.  He was a licensee on her property.  She owes him whatever their contract says she owes him and nothing more.  If I were in her position I would be inclined to give him a finders fee, but I don't know whether it would be more than 10%.  He did "find" it, but not on his own volition.  Opening up the wall was, presumably, her idea.  His honesty is commendable, but if I drop my wallet and some nice person picks it up and says, "Excuse me sir, you dropped this," I don't think that he is entitled to nearly half my money just because he could have stolen all of it.

[ChadTower]

Last wall I opened up all I found was mildew.  Of course, I was in there to repair a leaky faucet in the shower.

[KSKID]

The contractor should have kept his mouth shut and just took the money, for he does not stand a chance in court.

[BMW Z1]

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[BMW Z1]

Legally, she doesn't owe him anything.  He was a licensee on her property.  She owes him whatever their contract says she owes him and nothing more.  If I were in her position I would be inclined to give him a finders fee, but I don't know whether it would be more than 10%.  He did "find" it, but not on his own volition.  Opening up the wall was, presumably, her idea.  His honesty is commendable, but if I drop my wallet and some nice person picks it up and says, "Excuse me sir, you dropped this," I don't think that he is entitled to nearly half my money just because he could have stolen all of it.

But it wasnt something she had lost! it wasnt hers in the first place. I think the judge should give it all to charity.

[billf]

Legally, she doesn't owe him anything.  He was a licensee on her property.  She owes him whatever their contract says she owes him and nothing more.  If I were in her position I would be inclined to give him a finders fee, but I don't know whether it would be more than 10%.  He did "find" it, but not on his own volition.  Opening up the wall was, presumably, her idea.  His honesty is commendable, but if I drop my wallet and some nice person picks it up and says, "Excuse me sir, you dropped this," I don't think that he is entitled to nearly half my money just because he could have stolen all of it.

But it wasnt something she had lost! it wasnt hers in the first place. I think the judge should give it all to charity.

What???  That's insane!  She owns the house for crying out loud!  Its hers.  Under your reasoning, any long lost treasures found anywhere should be given to charity??  What about the people who dive for treasure on sunken pirate ships?  What about King Tuts tomb?

[Dartful Dodger]

What???  That's insane!  She owns the house for crying out loud!  Its hers.  Under your reasoning, any long lost treasures found anywhere should be given to charity??  What about the people who dive for treasure on sunken pirate ships?  What about King Tuts tomb?

They were friends.  So was this a job he was doing or a favor. 

If you volunteer to clean up a private lot and you find a 20 dollar bill, is it yours or the lot owners?

[billf]

What???  That's insane!  She owns the house for crying out loud!  Its hers.  Under your reasoning, any long lost treasures found anywhere should be given to charity??  What about the people who dive for treasure on sunken pirate ships?  What about King Tuts tomb?

They were friends.  So was this a job he was doing or a favor. 

If you volunteer to clean up a private lot and you find a 20 dollar bill, is it yours or the lot owners?

It doesn't say they were friends, it said they were classmates.  I think if this was a favor it would have been mentioned in the article.  Finding a $20 bill is a whole lot different than finding the amount that was found in the situation.  But in your question, yes the $20 bill is the lot owners.

[shmokes]

The $20 bill belongs to the owner.  Realistically, I'd probably pocket the $20 if I was volunteering to clean up some random lot.  But legally, it's the lot owner's.

Whether he was a business invitee or a social licensee, he can't walk away with stuff he finds on her property.

[danny_galaga]

What???  That's insane!  She owns the house for crying out loud!  Its hers.  Under your reasoning, any long lost treasures found anywhere should be given to charity??  What about the people who dive for treasure on sunken pirate ships?  What about King Tuts tomb?

not a good example. normally, divers are NOT allowed to take items from historical sunken vessels. and even now the egyptian government is trying to recover all the treasures pilfered from there over the centuries, including artifacts in the british museum.

i agree that this money is hers by virtue of being on her property. like recovering someones stolen wallet, you can hope for a reward but not expect it and not ---smurfette--- about it if you don't get one...

[patrickl]

Yeah, even if something was lost it can still be owned by someone. I've always been wondering about Spain resisting the recovery of gold coins from a sunken ship.
Guardian: Spain forces treasure ship into port in battle over fortune in pieces of eight

Spain claims the coins might have come from a sunken ship in Spanish waters or from a Spanish galleon that sank in international waters. In both cases Spain claims they are the rightful owner of the coins.

[BMW Z1]

What???  That's insane!  She owns the house for crying out loud!  Its hers.  Under your reasoning, any long lost treasures found anywhere should be given to charity??  What about the people who dive for treasure on sunken pirate ships?  What about King Tuts tomb?

They were friends.  So was this a job he was doing or a favor. 

If you volunteer to clean up a private lot and you find a 20 dollar bill, is it yours or the lot owners?

It doesn't say they were friends, it said they were classmates.  I think if this was a favor it would have been mentioned in the article.  Finding a $20 bill is a whole lot different than finding the amount that was found in the situation.  But in your question, yes the $20 bill is the lot owners.

Well lets hope she dosnt find a dead body under the floor boards then!

[billf]

What???  That's insane!  She owns the house for crying out loud!  Its hers.  Under your reasoning, any long lost treasures found anywhere should be given to charity??  What about the people who dive for treasure on sunken pirate ships?  What about King Tuts tomb?

They were friends.  So was this a job he was doing or a favor. 

If you volunteer to clean up a private lot and you find a 20 dollar bill, is it yours or the lot owners?

It doesn't say they were friends, it said they were classmates.  I think if this was a favor it would have been mentioned in the article.  Finding a $20 bill is a whole lot different than finding the amount that was found in the situation.  But in your question, yes the $20 bill is the lot owners.

Well lets hope she dosnt find a dead body under the floor boards then!

Well, then she would be the owner of that too!   

[ChadTower]

Spain claims the coins might have come from a sunken ship in Spanish waters or from a Spanish galleon that sank in international waters. In both cases Spain claims they are the rightful owner of the coins.

There are laws about things in international waters for extreme lengths of time.  Ownership then often does become a finder's ownership, or in some cases, it goes to whomever has the salvage rights to that area.  IIRC, salvage claims are fairly short term, then they go back to nonownership.