how to connect 7-button layout

[superbigjay]

Hello everyone,

I know this has been probably asked/answered many time, but I couldn't find a precise answer to my question...

I'm using a 7-button layout.

How should I connect it to the encoder (keywiz)?

This is my layout:

##         A      B      C
##         D      E      F
##   G

Should I connect 2 buttons together (ex : A = G)?
Should I connect  them to 7 separate inputs on the encoder?


Same question for pinball buttons?
I have 2 pinball buttons on each side (flipper + nudge).
I guess they are connected to existing button on the CP.  what is connected to what?

Thanks...

And sorry for being lazy 

[MrMojoZ]

"Should I connect  them to 7 separate inputs on the encoder?"

I'm in the process of planning out my 7 button setup and this is the method I was considering. Hope someone with experience can let us know how it works. 

[DaveMMR]

Honestly, either way will work fine, but if you're short on space, you can share inputs.  You may want to have 7 separate inputs if you're emulating any consoles that have full gamepads full of buttons (e.g. SNES has 6 buttons, a start and a select = 8 buttons).  Otherwise, yeah, make A and G one input.

The flipper buttons I'd share with main inputs though - since you can't really do much else with them anyhow.

[superbigjay]

I'll right DaveMMR,

thanks a lot.

I think I'm gonna share the inputs for now.
But I'll plan to have 2 separate wires.
So If I want to connect A/G to separate output, It will be only a matter of opening the cp box and reconnect the write to the right encoder input.

Jay 

[NoOne=NBA=]

I prefer this layout myself.

   4   5   6
   1   2   3
4

That puts the main buttons on the bottom row for classic games.
One of my pet peeves is reaching over controls to use other controls.
I hate having my hand resting on buttons to use other buttons.

[genesim]

Having played mostly fighters, I never rest my hand on buttons.

To throw a monkey wrench into the whole thing.  I prefer eight buttons because of the PS2 and Xbox.    4 shouldier buttons are a must!

[brandon]

well... if you plan to play the more recent Mortal Kombat games like UMK3 then you'll need a run button.  so the 7th button couldnt be the same as 4 because that's a punch button..

[TOK]

I wired your button "G" to a separate, 7th input to be used as a thumb button for games like Defender, Smash TV and Rescue.

[DaveMMR]

I wired your button "G" to a separate, 7th input to be used as a thumb button for games like Defender, Smash TV and Rescue.

Smash TV doesn't need a Thumb Button.  Total Carnage does. 

[superbigjay]

well... if you plan to play the more recent Mortal Kombat games like UMK3 then you'll need a run button.  so the 7th button couldnt be the same as 4 because that's a punch button..

Ok,

then is the top row is button 123 or 456???

-----------------------
   4 5 6
   1 2 3
7
-----------------------

or

-----------------------
   1 2 3
   4 5 6
7
-----------------------

I'm wiring my ledwiz and keywiz right now and could use that info to connect in the right order right away...

Thanks.

Jay 

[DaveMMR]

Again matter of preference.  I put my main buttons on the top row mainly because I got a couple of people telling me they weren't comfortable with the main action buttons being on the bottom row.  Like so:

123
456

The hand naturally cups over the bottom row, so there's never been any "accidental hitting" of the wrong button.

[superbigjay]

Again matter of preference.  I put my main buttons on the top row mainly because I got a couple of people telling me they weren't comfortable with the main action buttons being on the bottom row.  Like so:

All right, Thanks a lot for that quick answer,
just had time to see what the different action buttons do in MK3.

So for the first try, I'll try what you have.

   123
   456
  7

If I donc get used to the main buttons being on top, I'll swap the first and bottom row.

Thanks again...

Man I love this forum!!

Jay