Added Trader mod to forum - like ebay feedback

[tommy]

It's too tiring trying to make chad understand things when he just has a bad attitude in general and knows nothing about what he speaks.

[shardian]

Well, it was pretty crazy for you to actually think the mods would spend hours going thru and assigning feedback on a case by case basis...

[tommy]

I thought it could have been as simple as just adding a number to the name of each user based off of the good traders list thread feedback and then linking to it when clicked. No big deal.

[shardian]

I thought it could have been as simple as just adding a number to the name of each user based off of the good traders list thread feedback and then linking to it when clicked. No big deal.

Saint said it wasn't doable, and would be ridiculous hard work, yet you kept going. Apparently it still was a big deal to you. Hence why I had to ask if you were being sarcastic. I should have known better.

[ChadTower]

I just went through 19 pages of my own PMs to get all of my feedback in... tommy could easily do the same for his deals.  He can't be bothered.

[missioncontrol]

you also have to look at the good sellers thread and see that the transactions are vague. Most of the just say "Add <namehere> as good trader" and there is no mention of for what or why. So expecting someone to go through that and add to scores is not really doable.

I went through it and tried to give credit to anyone I dealt with. Unfortunately there were names that I couldn't remember what it was I bought from them or sold them so I couldn't fairly leave feedback for them, even though I know they were a good trader. There were others who were not current active members, but I still left feedback if I remembered what it was, just in case they ever come back.

This doesn't mean that I expect them to remember and give me feedback based on the fact that they got it. I would rather them remember what it was for so that way the feedback is more honest.

The only problem with feedback systems is the fact that sellers will be so demanding about getting feedback "for their reputation", that they will turn to not trusting their customers, and that they will hold the customers feedback hostage, until they receive good feedback. Just like what sellers do at e-bay.

The purpose of the feedback lets everyone know who is honest and great to deal with. It isn't something that is to be expected during a transaction, but something done out of courtesy.

[XyloSesame]

The only problem with feedback systems is the fact that sellers will be so demanding about getting feedback "for their reputation", that they will turn to not trusting their customers, and that they will hold the customers feedback hostage, until they receive good feedback. Just like what sellers do at e-bay.

I would hope, since this is a somewhat closed system, we would be able to avoid the eBay feedback trap...

[tommy]

I just went through 19 pages of my own PMs to get all of my feedback in... tommy could easily do the same for his deals.  He can't be bothered.

Who the hell keeps 19 pages of year old pm's, not me. You're nuts.

[saint]

I have 879 PMs dating back to August 01, 2004, 01:02:01 PM

[missioncontrol]

I have 879 PMs dating back to August 01, 2004, 01:02:01 PM

yeah, but you are nuts

[tommy]

I have 879 PMs dating back to August 01, 2004, 01:02:01 PM

yeah, but you are nuts

That's understandable for the site owner, but not really for a regular user.

[saint]

No, I think missioncontrol had it right. 

[missioncontrol]

No, I think missioncontrol had it right. 

Saved to signature

[ChadTower]

I don't save them.  I just don't bother to delete them.  I was surprised to see I had that many.

[shardian]

I don't save them.  I just don't bother to delete them.  I was surprised to see I had that many.

Same here...as with everyone.

[Kremmit]

I just went through 19 pages of my own PMs to get all of my feedback in... tommy could easily do the same for his deals.  He can't be bothered.

Who the hell keeps 19 pages of year old pm's, not me. You're nuts.

A better question might be:  "Who takes the time to clean up their PM box?"

Everything I've ever been sent is still in there.

[bfauska]

I just left a feedback and after cramming everything I wanted to say into one sentence in the short comment section I looked at the review page for the person to find that the sentence is cut off.  Viewing the detail doesn't expand that section either.  So... two questions:

1. Is  there a way to edit the feedback that we give?
2. Should/can the number of words in the "Short Comment" section be limited so that they all fit on the summary screen?

[tommy]

Feedback should be somehow restricted to people who actually did business with the user. I almost left a bad feedback to another user just for the fun of it reguarding a post i didn't like in a thread. 

[CheffoJeffo]

Feedback should be somehow restricted to people who actually did business with the user. I almost left a bad feedback to another user just for the fun of it reguarding a post i didn't like in a thread. 

Yeah, but people would look at the feedback and said "oh, it's just tommy -- he only became aware this year" and trade with me anyway ...

 

[tommy]

Nice one.   

[ChadTower]

Easy solution to that - watch your own feedback.  People who abuse the system can lose the ability to use it, so if someone tools your feedback needlessly, report it to the mods.

[quarterback]

Hey saint, is there any way to see what 'feedback' a user has given to other people?     

Let's say I look at your feedback and notice that you are accused of being a bad trader by some character calling himself shmokes, it would be nice to see if it's shmokes who might be the bad-guy and just gives out negs for no reason.

Jus' wondrin'
qb

[DemonBrew]

What defines "established member"? Post count? I've been a member since Dec 2004, but I have only posted 8 messages to date. I have several trades I'd like to comment on, but it says I'm not allowed.

[polaris]

post again to make 10 and i think youll become a full member

[missioncontrol]

What defines "established member"? Post count? I've been a member since Dec 2004, but I have only posted 8 messages to date. I have several trades I'd like to comment on, but it says I'm not allowed.

BYOAC DemonBrew

[DemonBrew]

What defines "established member"? Post count? I've been a member since Dec 2004, but I have only posted 8 messages to date. I have several trades I'd like to comment on, but it says I'm not allowed.

BYOAC DemonBrew

It's a good thing I can only comment on trades and not general sarcasm.   

edit: and look at that. I have am a full member.

[missioncontrol]

What defines "established member"? Post count? I've been a member since Dec 2004, but I have only posted 8 messages to date. I have several trades I'd like to comment on, but it says I'm not allowed.

BYOAC DemonBrew

It's a good thing I can only comment on trades and not general sarcasm.   

yeah, there's another place for that

[Hoopz]

In B/S/T on 12/14/2007, two users were trying to agree on a deal.  The user attempting to buy something left negative feedback for the seller after it appeared that the seller reneged on the deal.

Apparently, the seller then left the prospective buyer negative feedback in retaliation.  Are the mods "allowed" to review and adjust ratings if requested?

[saint]

Yes. I can remove the feedback. Should I in this case?

[Hoopz]

Based upon what I read, I think so.  I would suggest contacting the two and seeing if they can resolve this.  Or at least, ask the prospective buyer what his opinion is.

Thanks.   

[missioncontrol]

I was just looking for this thread to comment on this. It appears seller is abusing thr feedback system by posting retaliatory feedback. I was afraid it wouldn't take long before the system was abused.

[saint]

Nuked feedback left from both sides -- no actual transaction appears to have taken place. Think that's the line I'll use until a better idea comes along. Until a transaction takes place (or is attempted if one side screws the other) then it's not really trader feedback, it's just an argument. There are other ways to deal with someone who is mucking things up...

--- saint

[CheffoJeffo]

Feedback should be somehow restricted to people who actually did business with the user. I almost left a bad feedback to another user just for the fun of it reguarding a post i didn't like in a thread. 

Yeah, but people would look at the feedback and said "oh, it's just tommy -- he only became aware this year" and trade with me anyway ...
 

Hoist on my own petard ... looks like PBJ has left me some trader feedback.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=trader&id=6405

Safe to say that I have never traded with him.

Not a bad shot, although he still seems to think that I am a fireman and that I walk to auctions (neither is true, but when have facts ever interfered with his postings).

At least is was a positive feedback!