Slik Stik - Any Word

[TPB]

he [Christian] is in a difficult situation right now trying to clean up the mess left by SlikStik

Mega24,

Who do you think MADE the mess left by SlikStik ?

Get your head around this concept :

A lot of people have run businesses, some incorporated and many not. I've run a business myself. If Christian ran Slickstick, then Christian = Slikstik. Play semantic games all you want, nothing will ever change that.

Christian will ship product to people Christian wants to ship product to.

I spoke to Christian (Chris) for over an hour about all kinds of stuff.

Do you also chat with the Mormans and the Jehovah's Witness for over an hour, when they come knocking on your door ?

Or just can't bring yourself to say "NO" to those so-called friends who try to flog you Amway products ?

Maybe you've fallen for a $5,000 whiz-bang vacuum cleaner being sold door-to-door ?  Perhaps you even agreed to sign up for the VIP installment plan, at 28.95 % interest ?

Mega24, you seem like a champion guy ...

But there are lots of people out there, who'd like to make a quick buck off you.  Sometimes you need to step back, take a long hard look at things, and smell the BS through the trees.

[Mega24]

From what I have been able to surmise, Scott works at / operates a fabrication company that builds custom wood furniture/cabinets/etc. Mameroom is just one facet of the business. He is in Ohio. Christian is in NJ. Scott buys the control panels from Christian because the designs and layouts are great and Christian is very knowledgeable and his products are superior and use some of the best parts available. That being said, Scott does not offer ALL SlikStik products on his page. Only the ones that he can fabricate and ship himself in case of an order NOT being filled by Christian. For example, Mameroom will not offer the Quad FS panel because they cannot fabricate control panels with the flight stick that SlikStik uses.

Please do not mistake anything I have said to be an excuse for bad business practices or a defense of people being ripped off. I just want everyone to consider the fact that control panels ARE being shipped and products are being received by those who have placed/are placing orders. I wonder what it will take to convince people?

BTW, I would like to know who, among all the posters here, have actually ordered and NOT received a SlikStik product? These are the people who have a legitimate gripe and I would love to hear current status for them. I have no trouble reaching Christian OR Scott BTW, so if anyone cant get in touch with them, please let me know and I will try and help. 

[CheffoJeffo]

I just have to say there's a very vocal minority, CheffoJeffo in particular, who are adding absolutely nothing to this thread.   I mean seriously what value are the emote responses adding?

Fair question ... they're my tongue-in-cheek way of dealing with the frustration of having been accused of being selfish by continuing to post my opinion and supporting facts, while the people who had the temerity to demand my silence continued to run roughshod.

[KevSteele]

im jus sayin dont say your getting scammed and not getting anything for your $$

Unfortunately, you really don't have a clue here - you know why the overlays aren't being shipped? Because SlikStik isn't paying the supplier! They owe me quite a bit of money as well for ads, and after a year of waiting, I sent them to a collection agency -- they promised the agency they would pay, then Christian promptly disconnected his cell phone and got a new number.

There's no way this is an ethical business practice, and unless a miracle happens I'm afraid things are only going to get worse...

Kev ... did you end up receiving payment for this advertising ??   

Yet ANOTHER reason why this thread is crucial.

Nope, although Steele Publishing is now officially listed as a creditor with SlikStik's lawyers. I guess that means I've got a place in line...

Sniping and griping aside, there's still a lot to be learned about what's going on, which is why I'm monitoring this thread (and digging through all the flamewars)

[scottp]

For what is is worth, Christian was able to settle the bill with my company, though I am sure it was a much smaller bill... 

I have been in contact with Christian and regularly shipping overlays to him over the past month or so.  So I know he is getting things out the door now and as we have seen people are starting to get their products.  I am hopefull over the next month or so we will see other people receiving their products and things will settle down.

Scott
www.mamemarquees.com

[saint]

I can probably count the number of times I've done this on one hand and have fingers left over. I think this thread has run its course except for people reporting in with facts (I did/didn't get paid, I did/didn't get a refund, I did/didn't get my product, here's a picture of my product, etc.). I'm asking everyone else with opinions/positions/defenses of one side or another to stop and will be taking scissors to posts liberally hereafter. I don't think it's censoring as I don't think there's anything new coming out other than the aforementioned facts relating to transactions. If you've got an opinion to the contrary please PM me with it.

--- saint

[Mike Ahearn]

I placed my order in March of 2007 and never received my panel.  For those of you that have recently received your panels, did Christian contact you out of the blue and tell you he was going to get it out?  If he contacted you, what method did he use: telephone, letter, email?  If you contacted him, how was it that you made contact with him?  If you telephoned him, what number did you call?  If you emailed him, what address did you use?  My last contact with SlikStik was on October 2, 2007.  My story was posted much earlier in this thread.  I was calling almost everyday and emailing with no repsonse.

[ratzz]

I placed my order in March of 2007 and never received my panel.  For those of you that have recently received your panels, did Christian contact you out of the blue and tell you he was going to get it out?  If he contacted you, what method did he use: telephone, letter, email?  If you contacted him, how was it that you made contact with him?  If you telephoned him, what number did you call?  If you emailed him, what address did you use?  My last contact with SlikStik was on October 2, 2007.  My story was posted much earlier in this thread.  I was calling almost everyday and emailing with no repsonse.

See Maga24 above, I think he has had good success, and he said that if you have problems to contact him and he will help out.

HTH

[magiic]

I placed my order in March of 2007 and never received my panel.  For those of you that have recently received your panels, did Christian contact you out of the blue and tell you he was going to get it out?  If he contacted you, what method did he use: telephone, letter, email?  If you contacted him, how was it that you made contact with him?  If you telephoned him, what number did you call?  If you emailed him, what address did you use?  My last contact with SlikStik was on October 2, 2007.  My story was posted much earlier in this thread.  I was calling almost everyday and emailing with no repsonse.

I get in touch with him by filing an item not received claim with Paypal. Within 20 minutes of filing a claim I had received an e-mail from and my panel shipped that afternoon.

[M37R01D]

I'm still waitin on UPS, he usually comes around 5pm

In the meantime, I would like to post, OFFICIAL words from Christian that I have just received in an email. This is the complete email, nothing was removed or altered. This email was written to me, and addresses the matters of this thread.

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Mike,
 
   I wanted to thank you for being patient in waiting for your unit. You have been very pleasant to work with and I am sure you will enjoy the panel I made for you very much. The reason for me sending you this email is because of the incredibly never ending negative BYOAC forum posts, which are all being directed at me personally. I have simply had it with the constant jokes and am sick of being fingered by these morons who don't even have an order is with SS and who are simply posting because they have nothing better to do but jump on the "lets F@#$ Chris" bandwagon. As you already know, SS out of business, done, gone, finished, chapter 7 and I have purchased all of the existing stock that SS had on their shelves in hopes to start a new arcade business and continue offering the same quality products that SS has always offered. Additionally, you know that I have conveyed to the industry that I was not the owner and have not one legal tie to SS, so all of this speculative talk about suing me personally, me lying to customers, the attorney general coming down on me is a complete bunch of rubbish, and is just untrue.
 
I have also conveyed to the community (as you already know) that I personally intended to fill all of the orders from SS customers that have not been filled due to this unfortunate event, out of my own pocket. No one is forcing me to do this, but since my name has been slammed all over the place as me personally being the one behind this whole SS issue, and since I want to continue in this industry, I basically have no choice but to do so if I want to save face and show everyone that hey I'm the one who dimed your SS order out of my pocket, show me some support. Oh and BTW, you have been nothing but nice to me, and thats why you have your new unit on its way (due today I think) as well as others and also because yours was at the top of the list as I am going in order to rectify this nightmare.
 
Back to what I was saying. I am getting slammed all over the place by one moron after another. I should be looked at as a hero of sorts because these people such as yourself have no recourse in doing a charge back do to the expired time limit to do so. Of course you could always sue the pants of off SS but with their lawyer and the fact that it was an LLC, and everything was done on the up and up as far as when they filled and such, it would be a very lengthly process which I couldn't even comprehend since most if not all were out of state purchases and trying to get money from someone behind an LLC is extremely difficult. In any case and as you can see, I have started to pay off SS debt with vendors such as Mamemarquees and have also started to fill these orders one by one as I go down the list. Some have received their panels and have been posting there and some are already on their way like yours is. In any case, I was trying to save face and make people happy, but plans have changed, let me explain.
 
I am disgusted about the posts being made about me and have had enough with the bashing and jokes and slandering of my name all over the web by BYOAC members who don't have a clue as to what they are talking about. They all want to bash me, all these ---punks--- who have never even purchased anything or who aren't any of the ones who got burned by SS want to try and ruin my name and any new company before it even starts? Ok thats fine, because of this I am putting a cease on all orders that I was going to be filling out of my pocket. Yes, it has to be done. I am not going to sit here and take over 20k out of my pocket to restock the part inventory, manufacture them and ship them out on my dime just to get bashed and not an ounce of praise in return for doing so. Again, I was hoping and more like expecting to come out of this the good guy for doing something that I absolutely don't have to do and going above and beyond the call of duty. I am happy that you and a few others who were over the alloted charge back time in getting a refund for this whole SS debauchery got their orders but I am at my wits end and I am not and will not continue to dip into my personal $$$ to fund this operation simply to have that fat forum rat, Fozzy and company destroy me in doing so.
 
I would appreciate it if you could post this for me. You have been a great person to work with and am happy to have filled your order out of my pocket, consider yourself one of the lucky ones who got their order from me, because I will not fill not even a single button order from the former SS customer file list because of this.
 
I haven't posted anything on those fourns in a long time and I refuse to do so because you cant beat a drunken mob of brainless morons who have no remorse for the unwary. As for all existing customers of SS, who are over the period of time (which I hear is 45 - 90 days and varies from bank to bank) try to get a refund from SS, I recommend that you contact your CC company and inquire about what options you may have to get your money back, but there is just no sense for me to financially fund your orders from SS with the end result being that I am going to constantly be slammed on here and by people who are not even in your situation are going to continue to post many seemingly derogatory and completely fictitious statements with its sole intent to ruin any new arcade related business that I plan start in the future.
 
In the interim, I will be starting a new arcade company which will offer nothing less than top of the line products regardless of what is said here about me and save the over 20k that I was initially intending to lay out to fill old SS orders before I was simply pushed over the edge in doing so by the posts being made here on BYOAC.
 
Everyone should know that it was these 15 pages of bashing toward me personally that has caused me to make this decision, and you can thank all of these wonderful people on the BYOAC forums for making that happen! Good luck in your quest to get your money back from SS, there is a long road ahead.

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[FrizzleFried]

 

[shardian]

Wow. What a long winded piece of trash. Amazing that the smart assed comments of 2-3 people can be attributed with being the sole fault of all those people not getting their products. I will say that if it wasn't for the outrage of this thread, NONE of these people would have gotten their products. At least a few can now say they did. Can this thread be PH'ed now?

[RetroGreg]

If it was going to cost hom 20k to fill the orders - how much did they take in without supplying anything?

[saint]

(Keep it civil please everyone)

[PCtech]

(Keep it civil please everyone)

[FrizzleFried]

...and why is SLIKSTIK.COM still up and accepting orders?

We are his easy "scapegoat"...blame BYOAC!  Wait a second...according to Scott BYOAC only accounts for 15% of his orders,  so he's gunna screw the other 85% because of a few vocal "morons" here?

That's what I call a classy individual...

[shardian]

I would like to add this to anyone who is without money and product. As everyone knows, Slik Stik did almost all of their business out of state. That means this is no longer a state level affair, it is a Federal internet fraud crime. To anyone who has filed with the NJ attorney General, follow up with a report to the internet crime division of the FBI.

http://www.ic3.gov/

[CheffoJeffo]

Can this thread be PH'ed now?

Actually, I think that the criterion that Christian specifies is germane and will be critical for those who now have to join the line of SlikStik creditors.

BTW, you have been nothing but nice to me, and thats why you have your new unit on its way

[FrizzleFried]

I'm still waitin on UPS, he usually comes around 5pm

In the meantime, I would like to post, OFFICIAL words from Christian that I have just received in an email. This is the complete email, nothing was removed or altered. This email was written to me, and addresses the matters of this thread.

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Mike,
 
   I wanted to thank you for being patient in waiting for your unit. You have been very pleasant to work with and I am sure you will enjoy the panel I made for you very much. The reason for me sending you this email is because of the incredibly never ending negative BYOAC forum posts, which are all being directed at me personally. I have simply had it with the constant jokes and am sick of being fingered by these morons who don't even have an order is with SS and who are simply posting because they have nothing better to do but jump on the "lets F@#$ Chris" bandwagon. As you already know, SS out of business, done, gone, finished, chapter 7 and I have purchased all of the existing stock that SS had on their shelves in hopes to start a new arcade business and continue offering the same quality products that SS has always offered. Additionally, you know that I have conveyed to the industry that I was not the owner and have not one legal tie to SS, so all of this speculative talk about suing me personally, me lying to customers, the attorney general coming down on me is a complete bunch of rubbish, and is just untrue.
 
I have also conveyed to the community (as you already know) that I personally intended to fill all of the orders from SS customers that have not been filled due to this unfortunate event, out of my own pocket. No one is forcing me to do this, but since my name has been slammed all over the place as me personally being the one behind this whole SS issue, and since I want to continue in this industry, I basically have no choice but to do so if I want to save face and show everyone that hey I'm the one who dimed your SS order out of my pocket, show me some support. Oh and BTW, you have been nothing but nice to me, and thats why you have your new unit on its way (due today I think) as well as others and also because yours was at the top of the list as I am going in order to rectify this nightmare.
 
Back to what I was saying. I am getting slammed all over the place by one moron after another. I should be looked at as a hero of sorts because these people such as yourself have no recourse in doing a charge back do to the expired time limit to do so. Of course you could always sue the pants of off SS but with their lawyer and the fact that it was an LLC, and everything was done on the up and up as far as when they filled and such, it would be a very lengthly process which I couldn't even comprehend since most if not all were out of state purchases and trying to get money from someone behind an LLC is extremely difficult. In any case and as you can see, I have started to pay off SS debt with vendors such as Mamemarquees and have also started to fill these orders one by one as I go down the list. Some have received their panels and have been posting there and some are already on their way like yours is. In any case, I was trying to save face and make people happy, but plans have changed, let me explain.
 
I am disgusted about the posts being made about me and have had enough with the bashing and jokes and slandering of my name all over the web by BYOAC members who don't have a clue as to what they are talking about. They all want to bash me, all these ---punks--- who have never even purchased anything or who aren't any of the ones who got burned by SS want to try and ruin my name and any new company before it even starts? Ok thats fine, because of this I am putting a cease on all orders that I was going to be filling out of my pocket. Yes, it has to be done. I am not going to sit here and take over 20k out of my pocket to restock the part inventory, manufacture them and ship them out on my dime just to get bashed and not an ounce of praise in return for doing so. Again, I was hoping and more like expecting to come out of this the good guy for doing something that I absolutely don't have to do and going above and beyond the call of duty. I am happy that you and a few others who were over the alloted charge back time in getting a refund for this whole SS debauchery got their orders but I am at my wits end and I am not and will not continue to dip into my personal $$$ to fund this operation simply to have that fat forum rat, Fozzy and company destroy me in doing so.
 
I would appreciate it if you could post this for me. You have been a great person to work with and am happy to have filled your order out of my pocket, consider yourself one of the lucky ones who got their order from me, because I will not fill not even a single button order from the former SS customer file list because of this.
 
I haven't posted anything on those fourns in a long time and I refuse to do so because you cant beat a drunken mob of brainless morons who have no remorse for the unwary. As for all existing customers of SS, who are over the period of time (which I hear is 45 - 90 days and varies from bank to bank) try to get a refund from SS, I recommend that you contact your CC company and inquire about what options you may have to get your money back, but there is just no sense for me to financially fund your orders from SS with the end result being that I am going to constantly be slammed on here and by people who are not even in your situation are going to continue to post many seemingly derogatory and completely fictitious statements with its sole intent to ruin any new arcade related business that I plan start in the future.
 
In the interim, I will be starting a new arcade company which will offer nothing less than top of the line products regardless of what is said here about me and save the over 20k that I was initially intending to lay out to fill old SS orders before I was simply pushed over the edge in doing so by the posts being made here on BYOAC.
 
Everyone should know that it was these 15 pages of bashing toward me personally that has caused me to make this decision, and you can thank all of these wonderful people on the BYOAC forums for making that happen! Good luck in your quest to get your money back from SS, there is a long road ahead.

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Not sure if it will make any difference,  but I figured I better quote the entire message just in case someone decides to delete it for whatever reason it's still here...

[leapinlew]

I have said, and will always say that Christian is my hero.

[M37R01D]

I can't edit my post anymore. So I can't delete anything, if saint deletes it he will delete your copy too

BTW, you have been nothing but nice to me, and thats why you have your new unit on its way

Yea as well as other people, you cut that part out, and the part where mine was on the top of the list!!!

[Orclord]

I'm still waitin on UPS, he usually comes around 5pm

In the meantime, I would like to post, OFFICIAL words from Christian that I have just received in an email. This is the complete email, nothing was removed or altered. This email was written to me, and addresses the matters of this thread.

[Snip]..........
 
Everyone should know that it was these 15 pages of bashing toward me personally that has caused me to make this decision, and you can thank all of these wonderful people on the BYOAC forums for making that happen! Good luck in your quest to get your money back from SS, there is a long road ahead.

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I really can't believe that email.....
 

Sheesh.......

 

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

I should be looked at as a hero of sorts because these people such as yourself have no recourse in doing a charge back do to the expired time limit to do so.

Nothing will ever, ever top that statement. He thinks of himself as a HERO because he worked at a company that took $20,000 of orders, stopped shipping them for no adequately explained reason, bought the stock himself and then decided to not ship anything because he got some posts on the Internet expressing displeasure with his business practices.

When I think of "hero," Christian Stango comes to the top of the list. Sometimes our heros have feet of clay.

Abraham Lincoln: freed the slaves. Saved the union. Had problems getting supplies from England during the time of crisis, just like how Stango lied about getting I-PACs from England during a time of... well, crisis isn't the right word, because there is absolutely no reason given as to why SS decided to stop shipping one day.

Superman: a true hero in every sense of the word. Worked in the newspaper industry, but didn't pay the advertisers himself, personally, or anything though. Sort of like SlickStick in that regard!

Come oooOOoOOoon! That manifesto was the most self-deluded nonsense I've ever seen. The guys at SlikStick stole twenty thousand dollars from arcade fans and then came up with a BS reason to pocket the money. Stango now has the unmitigated audacity to say that he's taking that product and going to start a NEW company. That e-mail should be forwarded directly to the state attorney's office in New Jersey.

[ChadTower]

So I get a 50lb UPS package today... return address is "Hero Of Sorts".  I'm like WTF I didn't order anything from them.  I open the thing up and it's a decent looking custom CP... but when I try to play it all the joysticks are broken.

Why oh why did he use Nintendo joysticks?!

[zaphod]

I think you're missing the math here.  15% of their business was BYOAC, which was $20k of unshipped orders.  That'd leave $133,000 of other people's money they kept, right?

[shardian]

I think you're missing the math here.  15% of their business was BYOAC, which was $20k of unshipped orders.  That'd leave $133,000 of other people's money they kept, right?

Nono, $20k was his "cost" to build the panels. That means the money taken in was probably in the range of $60k.

[shardian]

Also, I'd like to point out once again that Christian penned the majority of those emails (and phone calls) that caused people to wait out their chargeback time frames.

The others were signed by a mysterious "Paul", that noone seems to be able to confirm exists, and then the generic "Slik Stik Staff" once things started to get real nitty gritty.

[Santoro]

Posting so I am notified of posts in this thread. What a mess.

[ChadTower]

Nono, $20k was his "cost" to build the panels. That means the money taken in was probably in the range of $60k.

Labor costs money, both in actual labor (here spent filling an order someone else was paid for) as well as "lost opportunity" labor that he could be making money on with an order for which he actually took money in.  I wouldn't be surprised if that is a large chunk of the figure given.

...that is, if the figure isn't just a number pulled out of his ass to make himself look big, which it very likely was.

[quarterback]

I would like to post, OFFICIAL words from Christian that I have just received in an email.

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I am putting a cease on all orders that I was going to be filling out of my pocket. Yes, it has to be done. I am not going to sit here and take over 20k out of my pocket to restock the part inventory, manufacture them and ship them out on my dime just to get bashed and not an ounce of praise in return for doing so.

In case it's not obvious to anybody new who happens to be reading this thread.   This is called a self-fulfilling prophecy.   If Christian HAD done the right thing and HAD shipped product to people who paid for it, then there would be no reason to bash him.  All the naysayers would be wrong (as I noted in my other post).  On the other hand, it appears that all the naysayers were entirely 100% correct.    Even as he accuses them of being wrong, he proves them right.

Only Christian can decide what Christian is going to do.   People are rightfully judged by their actions and not their words.  Christian has made the decision to NOT give people the product they paid for.  This is his decision and, assuming he sticks to it, he can and should be judged by that decision.    Had he made the right decision and provided the product that he himself sold to people, then he would be judged by that decision.   However, it appears that he has simply decided to prove that Fozzy was 100% correct.   This was his decision and his decision alone.

just keep in mind what Scott Glazer of Mameroom.com has said over and over and over again because at that point you'll have to admit that 'he told you so': 

If you don't get your panel, it was because "MANY members here [who] NEVER purchased anything from SlikStik ruin[ed] it for [you]" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "The continuing flamewar... ensure[d] that [you did] not [get your panel]" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "as a result of a continued tirade [you lost]" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "the only thing people of this forum [did was to end up] screwing people" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "comments from people in this forum prevent[ed it] from happening" click for Scott's full quote
If you don't get your panel, it was because "[posters in this thread were] screwing [you] just as much as SS" click for Scott's full quote

It's just as Scott Glazer of mameroom.com threatened.  The reason people got ripped off is because of this thread.   Either STFU or nobody gets what they paid for.  Unbelievable.

Wait a minute...I think people are misinterpreting my posts.  I in no way "Blame" anyone here. 

Then whose fault is it, Scott?    Whose fault is it that nobody else is getting their panels?   In post after post after post after post you made it 100% clear that if people didn't get their panels, it would be because of this thread.   If/then, if/then, if/then.   You don't have to be a CS major to understand these basic concepts. If "a" happens, then "b" will happen.     IF Fozzy posts, THEN nobody gets what they paid for.

Christian has made it clear that HE is blaming this thread.    You made it clear with post after post after post after post, yet you denied that you were blaming anybody here (YOUR words "I in no way "Blame" anyone here".   So tell us, after all your posts saying it would be the fault of people in this thread, and then denying that you were blaming anyone in this thread, now that it's come to pass (as so many predicted it would) and Christian directly blames Fozzy, whose fault is it that these paying customers don't get their product?

[CheffoJeffo]

I can't edit my post anymore. So I can't delete anything, if saint deletes it he will delete your copy too

It's OK, I saved a copy ...

[FrizzleFried]

Well,  according to a WHOIS report SlikStik.com only averages 900 and change unique hits per month.  That is pretty weak frankly...my boating newspapers website gets over 20K unique visitors per month and it only covers So. Cal.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

Also, I'd like to point out once again that Christian penned the majority of those emails (and phone calls) that caused people to wait out their chargeback time frames.

In true heroic fashion, he stayed on the phone for long hours, putting in tireless nights in order to glad-handle his way into getting people past their CC chargeback limits, all so he could selflessly take the flimsiest of reasons to hoard the product for himself and leave his previous obligations wholly unfulfilled.

I am LOVING the fact that he references his new business in that mail. He's totally cool with 200-some odd people (a guess: 200 people at a $100 order a piece) having to fight for scraps in the class action lawsuit that's coming, thrilled to death that he got the physical merchandise safely out of there. You couldn't have written that any better if you were attempting to cobble together a fake e-mail that totally destroys his reputation for life.  Everything we said about him was 100% correct. Somehow, calling him out on his BS and predicting his movements every step of the way made us all "morons." (Morons with some kind of unexplained drinking problem as well, looking back.)

I'll give the kid that only speaks with the keys from ~ to backspace credit: his dogged determination to support a guy who apparently just concocted one of the greatest scams in the entire history of arcades certainly got him his product.

[shardian]

Well this is technically bigger than Harpal in scope. Wait...Christian IS Harpal.


...I couldn't resist, and in case someone gets confused, this is a JOKE.

[Ice Cream Jonsey]

Here's the other thing - people had more or less layed off the last day and a half. I saw people starting to get their panels, and I was certainly not going to post further. Why would I? There was real progress, and none of this "it will be shipped in a week" nonsense. In fact, I would absolutely have given the guy credit for completing all the outstanding orders. (And, should it happen, I still will. Everyone gets a second chance in this country.)

When was the last post of the horrible "troll brigade"? Sometime on page 14? 15 was mostly lurkers registering to give their experiences. In fact, Saint asked that this thread become fact-based - who/what/when/how, and I was certainly going to respect his wishes. Say what you will about this thread, but I think this community does a pretty good job adhering to the wishes of our host.

So if you want to play the conspiracy game, it seems we got that e-mail about everyone's orders going unfinished only after the abuse was going to stop and he couldn't use that as an excuse any more.

[FrizzleFried]

I should be looked at as a hero of sorts because these people such as yourself have no recourse in doing a charge back do to the expired time limit to do so.

[Sir Auros]

What an ---uvula---.

Definitely not buying anything from mameroom since their product comes from him. Somebody needs to rat out his new company...that he won't be in charge of.

[quarterback]

Somebody needs to rat out his new company...that he won't be in charge of.

I think the point that Scott G. was making with the 15%/85% business comments is that Christian's main income does/will come from companies that don't care what anybody on BYOAC thinks. 

The impression that I got was that the majority of SlikStik's sales go directly to a number of other distributors like Happ, Mameroom and others.   Therefore it's not like a BYOAC boycott of "SlikStik 2" is going to mean anything.    His company will continue to do business with other businesses and be successful because of that.   So unless there is a massive boycott against ALL of those other businesses including Happ (and a number of which are completely unknown at this point) there is not much BYOAC can do to "stop" Christian anyway.

I could be wrong on what Scott's point was, but I believe that's why he said:
 
"This forum accounts for less than 15% of all sales generated for SlikStik (I learned this whan trying to acquire the company)....So attempting to tarnish or derail any future company formed by Chris will ultimately be a futile waste of time. "

Whether that is true or not is debateable, I guess.   I believe that Scott is probably stating what he believes is true, but I have no way to know if the 15% number is accurate or not.  Nor do I have any way of knowing if BYOAC members' attempts to "tarnish or derail any future company formed by Chris" will be a "waste of time" or not.

[dirt]

i am starting my company back up after a year and a half break after my dad/cabinet maker died. i already told mameroom in another thread here that i would be buying my panels from him, but with his contuined use of slikstik products i need to distance my self and my company from him. yes i said slikstik products, no matter what is says on paper we all know christian was running slikstik. even if he was not the "owner" he was running things.  to say that he was just a supplier to slikstik is an lie.  what was his name here on byoac...... oh yeah  SLIKSTIKchristian. when you called slikstik who answered the phone and took my order .....christian. yes i did order 2 panels from slikstick years ago. one was a custom one that he not only drilled completely wrong but installed the wrong joysticks. that one was a test to see if he could handle what i needed. i even talked to him on the phone and told him if he sent me what i ordered i would use his panels on all my machines. i guess he didn't want to sell an extra 8-10 panels a year. the other was a blank panel, i figured he couldn't screw that up and i was right.

to mameroom: i am sorry i had to make this decesion but i can not help support someone who scams people out of their money. if and when you stop using christians panels please let me know and i would be happy to do business with you.

[TPB]

So how does one get in contact with Christian???!

I placed my order for a blank pannel back in Oct. and no word yet.  I have emailed and called with no response 

... get in touch with Mega24, he seems to have Christian's private number.