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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #320 on: December 19, 2007, 06:10:59 pm »
I'd have to say that SlikStik lawyering-up is not good for us, at all.  I'm not an attorney, but I'll bet their attorney said not to ship out anything pending a declaration of bankruptcy.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #321 on: December 19, 2007, 07:42:10 pm »
From what I gather, Christian has been trading illegally under a non-registered (ie, expired and non-active) company name for the past year.

Yet he's still "selling" products off his site, today, as we speak.

(Note, I use the term "sell" loosely, it would be more apt to say he's still "taking people's money" under false pretences, for alleged products.)

If they're getting legal advice, then how come they're still continuing this practice ??

Surely an ethical lawyer would advise to IMMEDIATELY cease this illegal trading ??

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #322 on: December 19, 2007, 09:42:13 pm »
I would have to say that it depends on your definition of "bad".  Personally, I don't think them hiring  a lawyer makes a difference whatsoever.  I think we're never going to see our items nor our money refunded to us by Slikstik voluntarily, and since people have filed suit against them they've had no choice but to retain the services of an attorney (if they have any sense at all).  If anything, their hiring an attorney shows that the heat is on, and they're feeling it.  An attorney can help mitigate some of the things being thrown at them, but they can't use a magic eraser to make stuff go away.  If (Ha!) they've broken a law, they're still culpable.  If they file bankruptcy, it will destroy their credit for 10 years and they'll still have to liquidate assets to some degree to pay a portion of what they owe (unfortunately, lawyer's fees typically come first!).   Anyway, their hiring a lawyer was inevitable.

This just strengthens my whole resolve about following through with the Attorney General.  We're likely to never get full satisfaction on our orders, which is all the more reason to press a criminal case as much as possible.  I don't know what the ramifications would be, but if everyone who has been slighted will ante up the information, we might be talking hundreds of thousands of dollars here, which would undoubtedly be a felony.  Having a felonious criminal record can be extremely impactful, limiting the type of jobs you can get all the way to not being able to vote.

Yup, without a doubt, the fact that they've retained a lawyer isn't a bad thing at all IMHO.  Oh--as for their continuing to seel their products--who knows.  Perhaps they haven't disclosed that little detail to their attorney, or at least the little detail that they're 1) Not practicing with a license, and 2) They're operating illegally from a residence (Nutley Town Ordinance).

Oh!  If their attorney reads this:  GET YOUR MONEY UP-FRONT or  :banghead:

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #323 on: December 19, 2007, 10:01:18 pm »
Oh!  If their attorney reads this:  GET YOUR MONEY UP-FRONT or  :banghead:

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #324 on: December 20, 2007, 01:19:32 pm »
Any attorney worth his or her weight will find this forum and read and print copies of everything here.  Attorney's represent their clients, but they still require all the information up front so they can make suitable suggestions to their clients.  A good attorney will look at this forum to discover what types of people might be involved in a lawsuit or may be called as witnesses in a criminal case.  I agree with Jonathan - the fact that they've hired an attorney is actually quite good because a competent attorney will look at the facts and may tell these guys it's better to settle up than let it proceed in its obvious direction.

I also agree that most or all of you probably won't get your money back unless some sort of civil action is taken OR if a criminal case settlement requires some sort of financial restitutation.  I've got a friend who went through bankruptcy a few years back and I wouldn't wish that on anyone - hopefully these knuckleheads will get smart and do the right thing or maybe their attorney will tell them...

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #325 on: December 20, 2007, 02:01:35 pm »
I apologize that I have not chimed in since my original post regarding the Mameroom/SlikStik negotiations. There were a lot of details that were being discussed between companies, and still are. It is true that Mameroom Designs will not be acquiring SlikStik to the extent originally planned but we have alternatively been working out the details to manufacture and sell SlikStik parts and control panels. With all of the details close to being ironed out I wanted to shed some light on the ongoing SlikStik issues, Christian's involvement with SlikStik and pending orders that have not been filled yet...
 
First, I think the people of this forum should know...at no point in time was Christian ever an owner or part owner of SlikStik LLC. While Christian has been the front man for SlikStik since they opened their doors and may have even made comment over the years about being more involved with the company, he was merely an employee of SlikStik and received a pay check just like other SlikStik employees. I know this because during our negotiations, Christian had no ownership to sell the SlikStik brand name, trademark and rights to us. 
 
While Christian remained a part of the company for awhile during this situation, he is no longer associated with SlikStik. He himself is trying to acquire the SlikStik product line to start up his own arcade product company, since most of the SlikStik designs were his creations to begin with. I can now say that the reason that the majority of everyone's emails and phone calls to SlikStik have gone unanswered, is that Christian is either no longer receiving them, or is no longer in a position to do anything regarding SlikStik or their current customers/situation.
 
Regarding everyone's money currently tied up with SlikStik...While I do not know the fate of what remains of SlikStik LLC, I do know that Christian is no longer employed at the company. With Christian and the other employees either quitting or being laid off, Christian himself has expressed that anyone not in receipt of their order, do what they can to try and get a refund from their Credit Card companies.
 
Christian wanted me to relay to all of the customers contacting Mameroom, that he has full intentions of honoring every one of SlikStik customer's that are unable to get a refund. This basically means that any SlikStik customer that has been caught up in this issue and that has filed for a refund with their CC company, and are unable to get the refund due to an expiration of the time limit to do so, he will fulfill their order out of his pocket once his new business and shop are up and running (date for this is unknown at this time). keep in mind that SlikStik LLC has everyone's money, not Christian.  Obviously, Chris does not want to have the negative image bestowed upon him, following him around when he starts his own company (with him as the official owner).  There has been so much talk about Christian and people pursuing him directly...and unfortunately, I was not able to share information with this forum at the time... But if people want retribution or any kind of positive outcome for themselves, they should go after the source (where their money is) and that is the SlikStik LLC... not an ex-employee.  I don’t think much will come of it going after Chris personally.  I'm telling everyone this because I would just hate to see customers end up with nothing...and If Christian holds true to his offer to honor another companies obligations, I would also hate to see anything derail that or change his mind.  After all, it was primarily this forum's response to the SlikStik issues that derailed Mameroom acquiring SlikStik..and fulfilling previous orders.  Rightfully so, irate customers posted warnings and their experiences with SlikStik...which drove SlikStik sales down, which didn't make the company look so appealing from a business aspect...plus the talk of lawsuits and the Chamber of commerce.  We no longer could stick to our original intent.  I don't want to see that happen again.
 
While I am in no way, shape, or form condoning what has happened or what is going on...I would like to offer merely a suggestion that may benefit everyone...Try to get your money back and replace your order through Mameroom.  If you are unable to get your money back...why not give Christian and his new company he will be starting up a chance to make good on what he said he would. If it doesn't pan out the way he said (within a reasonable time frame), then continue on with the same course of action, as the situation could not get worse by waiting another month or two...again, right now there is still hope for everyone to get what they paid for...I would hate to see this opportunity ruined.

So officially, Mameroom is not able to step up and take over for SlikStik or to acquire any part of the company due to the current circumstances. Instead, we are reselling control panel designs and parts originally manufactured for SlikStik.  Mameroom Designs will gladly fill your orders if you choose to place them with us.  Since we added these items to our product line only a couple weeks ago, Several customers have already received and are enjoying their new panels.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #326 on: December 20, 2007, 02:12:46 pm »
As people have pointed out, Christian is a very smooth talker.  I hope, Scott, you don't take everything Christian is selling you (about his honoring sales with his new company) at face value.  He has intentionally misled a lot of people for a long time, as this thread has shown.  Even as "just an employee" he should carry much of the bad press with him to his new startup. 

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #327 on: December 20, 2007, 02:32:00 pm »
Even if Christian was only an employee of SlikStik, he should have had a spine and told customers the truth.

Please be sure to let us all know what his new company is so that we can warn others about him.
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #328 on: December 20, 2007, 02:58:55 pm »
Mameroom/Scott,

Do yourself a favor and just walk away. The only thing you will get out of this deal is the name Slikstik to put on your products. That, IMO, is not a good idea in this small knit hobby. They do not own patents on a spinner, a joystick, a control panel, or anything. They own the rights to their name(s), that is all.

At this point, you are not doing yourself or anyone favors by only doing business "with the bad guys". And no, you really shouldn't believe a damn word Christian says.

Allow me to interperet his comments:

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.Try to get your money back and replace your order through Mameroom.  If you are unable to get your money back...why not give Christian and his new company he will be starting up a chance to make good on what he said he would. If it doesn't pan out the way he said (within a reasonable time frame), then continue on with the same course of action, as the situation could not get worse by waiting another month or two...again, right now there is still hope for everyone to get what they paid for...I would hate to see this opportunity ruined.

Interpretation:
This is a lame ass attempt to derail the current legal investigation. I'm hoping you people are stupid enough to fall for it, that way we can string you along even longer. Obviously noone would actually buy from a company from me. None of the business partners in the field would cooperate with me for advertising and such after we at Slikstik screwed them all with non-payments. Of course I'm not actually starting a new company. So please, call off the hounds. I'll "take care" of all of you, for I am a nice and humble man who feels your pain.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #329 on: December 20, 2007, 03:13:26 pm »
Christian.   This guy is going to build and send me the control panel I ordered nearly 7 months ago?  Excuse me....  :laugh2:

Yup--sorry Christian.  You might have been an employee, and this might spare you of the financial situation of the company (and it might not), but you still knowingly participated in fraud, and I will gladly spend whatever it takes to show up in a courtroom in New Jersey and swear to the lies--absolute lies--YOU told me.  C'mon... watch the news.  You don't have to own the company to break a law associated with the business. 

As for any action taken, it will be filed against Slikstik.  The attorneys will hash out the liability.  Boy... if Christian isn't the owner, he's in for a world of hurt.  At no time has anyone pointed the finger at anyone else, and everyone's beef here is with Christian.  If I was the owner of Slikstik (Jerome Mascari?) I'd be filing a suit against Christian.  Heck, I'd be jumping out of the bushes kissing babies, contributing to world peace and giving away free joysticks all the while screaming, "I had no idea he was sticking it to me, too!   :cry: Let's get him, guys!!"  Christian will be in the middle of so many civil and potentially criminal suits he won't know which way to turn. 


Interpretation:
This is a lame ass attempt to derail the current legal investigation. I'm hoping you people are stupid enough to fall for it, that way we can string you along even longer. Obviously noone would actually buy from a company from me. None of the business partners in the field would cooperate with me for advertising and such after we at Slikstik screwed them all with non-payments. Of course I'm not actually starting a new company. So please, call off the hounds. I'll "take care" of all of you, for I am a nice and humble man who feels your pain.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #330 on: December 20, 2007, 03:19:10 pm »
Oh, and by the way.  <knock, knock>  Yeah you, Mr. Christian.  I straight-up asked you on the phone if I should just get a refund, and you said in the most reassuring, "I love you, man!"  voice that, "Man, any order anyone places with me will be made good if I have to do it out of my own pocket".  Well, I trusted you and allowed you to string me along.  As a result, I got word from my credit card company today that I've waited too long--there's nothing they can do. 

Okay--put your money where your mouth is.  First of all, PM me.  We'll set up a time to talk, review my order, and one month from that date have my controller at my doorstep.  If you do that, I'll shut up.  No... I'll do better than that.  I'll paste a positive comment on here about you.  I'm serious. 


Mameroom/Scott--

One thing I wanted to add.  I have e-mailed you a few times and you've gotten right back to me.  I appreciate your willingness to help, so I want to be straight-up with you.  I seriously considered ordering from you since you have the quad panel.  However, looking at your website and seeing the "color designer" and panels that were on the Slikstik site really, really makes me think twice about ordering from you.  You're association with them seems to be entirely too close.  If I were in your shoes I would be careful about being associated with them in any way.  It could have a significant impact on your business.
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #331 on: December 20, 2007, 06:04:03 pm »
The images of the formal SlikStik panels did in fact come from the SlikStik website..as well as the color designers...which, we haven't had a chance to remove the name from.  If people order "anything" from Mameroom, they can rest assured that customer satisfaction is guaranteed.  If they are "leary" based on previous events with SlikStik...that is certainly understandable and unfortunately, there's not much we can do about that...except put our companies reputation behind everything that we sell.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #332 on: December 21, 2007, 10:35:37 am »
No offense to Scott or Mameroom, but the whole explanation doesn't wash with me.

If I am running my own company, I would set it up as a LLC with myself as CEO and head employee with a generous salary.  That way the company doesn't show huge profits (could even show a loss for tax purposes) and all the money I take in is protected from legal settlements.  It also frees me up to be "fired" from the LLC and use my earnings to start a new company.

I have no first-hand knowledge of what Christian is actually involved with, but if you follow some of the David.R.Foley threads, you see a pattern here.

(And I am only stating opinions, not factual statements, if this goes to legal proceedings.)
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #333 on: December 21, 2007, 11:00:52 am »
Happy Holidays to everyone!  I'm going to be somewhat on leave for the next week due to Holiday traveling.  Just a few updates before I go.

I have spoken with Ann Marie a few times, and she is being utterly smothered in e-mails.  She has asked that I pass along to everyone that you send *one* e-mail with your contact information (address, phone number), a copy of your order along with a short history of your complaint.  Sometime after the new year a mailing list is going to be set up, and everyone will receive weekly or or monthly updates.  Once this mailing list begins, I'll be sure the information is posted here.  *IF* you don't get a copy of the mailing list, we'll check to make sure your complaint was filed and your contact info was entered correctly.

I appreciate the response and involvement everyone has shown, and I have faith that it will work itself out in the best possible way.  Hopefully we'll all end up with something at the end of the day to put a smile on our face, whether it be a product, refund or the guilty punished for what has transpired.   Additionally, if anyone truly is innocent that appears to be guilty, I hope it will exonerate them.

Despite this mess that we all seem to be in, take a few minutes to stop, look around and be thankful for the things that we do have.  Spend some time with family and close friends, and absolutely, positively play a few classic arcade games!

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #334 on: December 21, 2007, 01:29:19 pm »
Hi Guys, Scott from MameMarquees.com 

I wanted to let people know that Christian did recently settle up the bill with my company and he ordered several overlays last week which were shipped out.   I really don't know much more then that, but it would seem things are going in the right direction.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #335 on: December 21, 2007, 01:41:59 pm »
I got some news
Christian emailed me, saying he was taking over, and pullin things out his own pocket if he has to,
he told me he would pick my panel up 1-2 days after x-mas and have it right out
I will keep my fingers crossed, and keep you guys updated :)
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #336 on: December 21, 2007, 05:31:08 pm »
Well, the last two posts, especially the one from Scott at Mamemarquee is giving me cautious optimism. 

I know Christian/SlikStik is under a huge amount of heat, but my complaints that I have filed vanish the day my panel (or refund) arrives.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #337 on: December 21, 2007, 06:01:35 pm »
We here at Arcade Reactor E-zine asked SlikStik for an official statement about an upcoming article dedicated to the company, we were simply told, "No comment at this time."

So, we decided to pull the article until the March issue.  Actually, it was this forum, this very thread that prompted me to start Arcade Reactor E-zine.  I wanted to let people know how big this is and what is going on.  SlikStik's action can either hurt the arcade community or they can straighten up and continue to be a great contributer.

So, thanks to Slikstik, for getting this new project started.  (indirectly)
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #338 on: December 21, 2007, 07:16:40 pm »
Let's see if I've got this right ...

  • Slikstik fails to deliver big ticket items in a timely manner.
  • People post about it and complain.
  • Other people defend Slikstik.
  • Still more people speak out against Slikstik.
  • Christian says everything will be OK.
  • People are somewhat mollified.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #339 on: December 21, 2007, 09:05:41 pm »
I apologize that I have not chimed in since my original post... <snip>

First, I received a postcard from "Essex Special Civil Part, Hall of Records - Essex County" concerning my lawsuit vs. SlikStik and it read:

"A summons was issued 12-20-07 and a non-jury trial has been scheduled for this case on 02-20-2008 at 9:00 AM.  Bring all records & witnesses.  Please report to:  Judge Judge, Court Room: 301H."

I'm hoping that the judge's last name isn't "Judge", if for no other reason than the fact that he/she must have been teased incessantly in law school! (I'm guessing that a judge won't be assigned until much closer to the court date).  Anyway, it looks like I'm taking a road trip to the Trenton, NJ area in mid-February.  I'm going to drive out (8 hours, yikes!) during the day, but will spend the night so I can get some sleep after that long drive and be fresh to face the judge the next morning.  Any members from the Trenton area than can recommend a good, yet cheap, hotel for just the one night?  And where is the courthouse?  I have TWO addresses!  :-( 

Concerning Scott's post, I would trust his products without a single thought, however Christian claims that he was only a SlikStik employee, but the way he apparently treated other members of this site indicates to me that his lack of customer service skills weren't in any way due to his association with his former employers and would most likely continue with any new venture he might attempt.  I'd encourage everyone to buy from members such as Scott (MAMERoom), Randy (GroovyGameGear) and Andy (Ultimarc).  I finally found the funds to build my own panel and have used parts from all three of the aforementioned individuals and am more than pleased with their professionalism.

On a brighter, happier note, my control panel is almost done!  The cabinet itself is a MAMERoom Ultimate MK2 and the panel blank is one of Scott's 4-player designs. Most of the buttons, joysticks and spinner were purchased from GroovyGameGear.com and finally the interface (IPAC-4) and player 1 stick (UltraStik 360) are from Ultimarc.  I was amazed to get a great price from a vendor on eBay for the Happ 3" Trackball w/USB interface to wrap things up and even bought a bunch of blank button fillers for the few button spots that were empty courtesy of LizardLickAmusements.com).  I actually tried to 'borrow' some 18/2 wire from work, but ended up buying 3 spools of wire from Radio Shack as well as some more quick disconnects (eventually ran out of the ones I bought from Ultimarc), which I'm doing tomorrow (thank god for a 4-day weekend!).  I'll post a FINAL image of the whole cabinet when it's complete before the end of the year.

Anyway, this forum has been a great resource for those of us who have suffered through this whole experience with SlikStik and I hope that we'll all be able to find some sort of satisfaction through the court system.

All the best,


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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #340 on: December 21, 2007, 10:15:05 pm »
I apologize that I have not chimed in since my original post... <snip>

First, I received a postcard from "Essex Special Civil Part, Hall of Records - Essex County" concerning my lawsuit vs. SlikStik and it read:

"A summons was issued 12-20-07 and a non-jury trial has been scheduled for this case on 02-20-2008 at 9:00 AM.  Bring all records & witnesses.  Please report to:  Judge Judge, Court Room: 301H."

I'm hoping that the judge's last name isn't "Judge", if for no other reason than the fact that he/she must have been teased incessantly in law school! (I'm guessing that a judge won't be assigned until much closer to the court date).  Anyway, it looks like I'm taking a road trip to the Trenton, NJ area in mid-February.  I'm going to drive out (8 hours, yikes!) during the day, but will spend the night so I can get some sleep after that long drive and be fresh to face the judge the next morning.  Any members from the Trenton area than can recommend a good, yet cheap, hotel for just the one night?  And where is the courthouse?  I have TWO addresses!  :-( 

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Odds are they won't show. What happens then, do you win by default? Do they have a set time to pay up before a legal issue? Just curious. Also, are you including your travel expenses in your lawsuit?

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #341 on: December 23, 2007, 03:34:02 pm »
Shardian,

If no one from SlikStik comes to the courthouse to dispute the claim, I would win by default. At that point, SlikStik will be advised, in writing, of the results of the trial. After that, they will have 30 days to dispute the result.  After THAT they will receive a final notice at which point it's just my guess at to what will happen. According to New Jersey state law, they could suffer liens against property, etc., but what that REALLY means... who knows.

It goes without saying that I will do whatever it takes to get my money back, within rule of law. If they think that by ignoring this that I'll simply back down, they are sadly mistaken.

As far as your other question goes ("...are you including your travel expenses in your lawsuit?") the answer is no. I HAVE included my fees for filing the lawsuit in the final judgment, but from what I read, I don't think I'll be able to recoup travel expenses (gas, hotel, etc.).  If anyone knows otherwise, please contact me.


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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #342 on: December 23, 2007, 04:26:37 pm »
No offense to Scott or Mameroom, who have always shown themselves to be honest decent guys... BUT...

Man!! You are being taken in by more of Stango's ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---!!!

Of course he was only an employee of the company!!! Every Director, Partner, CEO, Chairman etc etc etc of an LLC (same as Ltd or PLC in the UK) is only an employee of the company.

That doesn't mean that those company officers can't be held responsible for fraud commited while they are in charge of it.

The only liability exemption it gives them is exemption to the valid debts of the company. However!! Debts occasioned as a result of fraud perpetrated by them, they are NOT exempt from liability for and they can legally be held personally liable for. He knows that! stop trying to defend him.

As for any new business the shark sets up.... we want to know about it straight away, so we can issue cautions! as (no doubt) will his former suppliers, who I suspect will not want to deal with him or whoever he uses as a front man to try and hide behind.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #343 on: December 23, 2007, 07:39:23 pm »
As for any new business the shark sets up.... we want to know about it straight away, so we can issue cautions! as (no doubt) will his former suppliers, who I suspect will not want to deal with him or whoever he uses as a front man to try and hide behind.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #344 on: December 27, 2007, 01:31:26 pm »
I hope everyone's holiday season is going well.  We're less than a week from 2008... boy does time fly.

I have an update for everyone, and I fully intend to keep you posted as things develop.  Christian contacted me a week or so ago by e-mail, much as he did M37R01D.  I had a chance to speak to him for nearly an hour on the phone last night, and we talked about posts in this forum as well as elsewhere, what his plans are for the future, and so-on.  I think his plans have already been stated on here in an earlier post, so I won't rehash all of them. 

In a nutshell, Christian has begun the process of making good on the orders left at Slikstik.  Mine and M37R01D's are two of those orders.  I know that there has been a great deal of mistrust generated by Slikstik, and I'm just as skeptical (actually, odds are I'm more skeptical) as the next guy.  Here again, I'm not yet going to elaborate on anything other than the promise made to me by Christian--to order my overlay, put the panel together and ship it to me (hopefully) next week, or the week after at the latest.  This is a fair attempt at beginning to make things right, so I'm willing to give him the chance to do so.  As mentioned above, I will post on here to keep everyone updated on the progress of this promise.  The results will certainly dictate how I respond to this situation, and I hope it is positive.  This gets my panel to me, but I also know there are others out there still waiting, and I also want to see if this good will continues.

This is all I have to say at this point, but I will elaborate more as time goes by and things progress. 

Happy New Year to everyone!

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #345 on: December 27, 2007, 01:37:36 pm »
He (hypothetically) has so much money from people he shafted in the last six months, he probably can afford to just order your control panel from Mameroom, get a tiny bit of goodwill generated from your posting, and still be wayyyyyyyyyyy ahead financially. 

Hope it works out for you, though.  Eight months is a long wait.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #346 on: December 27, 2007, 03:49:31 pm »
promise made to me by Christian--to order my overlay, put the panel together and ship it to me (hopefully) next week, or the week after at the latest.  This is a fair attempt at beginning to make things right, so I'm willing to give him the chance to do so.

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Sorry Jonathan.... That's just too funny for words after all the broken promises made by Christian to people on here and other places. 

Good Luck!! I think you need it!!

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #347 on: December 27, 2007, 03:58:08 pm »
Hi Guys, Scott from MameMarquees.com 

I wanted to let people know that Christian did recently settle up the bill with my company and he ordered several overlays last week which were shipped out.   I really don't know much more then that, but it would seem things are going in the right direction.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #348 on: December 27, 2007, 04:13:10 pm »
Hi Guys, Scott from MameMarquees.com 

I wanted to let people know that Christian did recently settle up the bill with my company and he ordered several overlays last week which were shipped out.   I really don't know much more then that, but it would seem things are going in the right direction.

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Noted Polaris..... So what's he up to.... Settling the few high profile cases that are likely to lead to a prosecution or significantly contribute to it???.

If he's left SlickStick then he's no liability for anything that was done legally so he's no liability to do this.  Knowing Christian as well as we do, IMHO he's not doing anything out of personal remorse towards those people who were ripped off.

However! If, as he's well aware, there is significant possible case for fraud he would be very liable! and therefore back peddling on the high profile stuff to try and cover his rear is going to do him no good at all. Because by doing so, he is only managing to create evidence of pottential complicity in the alledged illegal acts. QED.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #349 on: December 29, 2007, 09:02:20 pm »
If anyone cares I placed an order with SlikStik on the 26th. I received great communication throughout the pre-order process and as soon as I paid I received no contact, I sent a few e-mails and made a few calls all of which were ignored. About a week or so ago I decided to google issues with slikstik and found this thread and immediately filed a paypal claim. Within half hour of filing the claim I received an e-mail from our good friend Christian asking me why I filed a claim. I explained how my e-mails had been ignored and such and he assured me he received no e-mails. Anyways long story short he said my controller was read and would be mailed that day. Sure enough he gave me a tracking number and my unit is supposed to be delivered on the 3rd of January. Anyone else seen a controller ship lately?

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #350 on: December 29, 2007, 09:07:43 pm »
If anyone cares I placed an order with SlikStik on the 26th. I received great communication throughout the pre-order process and as soon as I paid I received no contact, I sent a few e-mails and made a few calls all of which were ignored. About a week or so ago I decided to google issues with slikstik and found this thread and immediately filed a paypal claim. Within half hour of filing the claim I received an e-mail from our good friend Christian asking me why I filed a claim. I explained how my e-mails had been ignored and such and he assured me he received no e-mails. Anyways long story short he said my controller was read and would be mailed that day. Sure enough he gave me a tracking number and my unit is supposed to be delivered on the 3rd of January. Anyone else seen a controller ship lately?
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #351 on: December 29, 2007, 09:23:45 pm »
If anyone cares I placed an order with SlikStik on the 26th.
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Within half hour of filing the claim I received an e-mail from our good friend Christian

on Dec 20 (post #325 of this thread), scott from mameroom reports that christian is no longer an employee of slikstik and can no longer receive emails sent to slikstik.

some time after Dec 26, a paypal claim against slikstik elicits an instant email from christian.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #352 on: December 29, 2007, 09:29:09 pm »
To clarify I placed my order on the 26th of November, not December.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #353 on: December 30, 2007, 10:29:42 am »
To clarify I placed my order on the 26th of November, not December.

May I ask what it was that you ordered?  I'm going to be a little peeved if you ordered a complete panel in Novemeber and are (supposedly) recieving it. Not that I wouldn't be happy for you, because I would be, but there are lots of us that have waited six or more months for panels.

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #354 on: December 30, 2007, 03:15:41 pm »
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May I ask what it was that you ordered?  I'm going to be a little peeved if you ordered a complete panel in Novemeber and are (supposedly) recieving it. Not that I wouldn't be happy for you, because I would be, but there are lots of us that have waited six or more months for panels.

I think that based on his original post that it's a controller (emphasis is mine):

"...he said my controller was read[y] and would be mailed that day. Sure enough he gave me a tracking number and my unit is supposed to be delivered on the 3rd of January. Anyone else seen a controller ship lately?"

Although I'll be happy if he receives his product, I agree with you that the rest of us would be a bit upset that someone placing a new order is getting product, but we're still without anything, not even decent communication since, in my case, the end of July (5 months).


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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #355 on: December 30, 2007, 07:16:40 pm »
I ordered a full blown CO2 controller unit with custom overlay and pinball bumpers. It is still scheduled for delivery on the 3rd. I'll keep posting on here if anything comes up. Sorry to hear you guys have been waiting so long. Hopefully I dont just get a big empty box  :(

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« Reply #356 on: December 31, 2007, 12:03:45 am »
i doubt you'll even get an empty box.
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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #357 on: December 31, 2007, 01:08:55 am »
Well according to UPS I have a 40lb box currently sitting in Richmond BC that has cleared customs as of the 28th

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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #358 on: December 31, 2007, 09:24:16 am »
Well according to UPS I have a 40lb box currently sitting in Richmond BC that has cleared customs as of the 28th

In all seriousness, I am very happy that you are getting your panel. But this really does beg the question as to why I have been waiting since the middle of June for my panel. They can't even say that they didn't have parts for it because I sent them back my original CO2 panel to just have swapped out into a new one (although I did admittedly make a couple of hardware changes, but come on!).

And I have seen at least one poster on this thread that has been waiting longer than I have!


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Re: Slik Stik - Any Word
« Reply #359 on: December 31, 2007, 08:11:40 pm »
I just received my SS Classic controller Christmas Eve.  After canceling my order with SS and reversing my CC charges, I ordered the identical controller from mameroom.  The funny thing is, the return address on the shipping box was from SlikStik in Nutley NJ.  And to top that off, I didn't get the illuminated controllers I ordered and the darn thing is wired wrong and I cannot get it to work properly.  I contacted mameroom and they are trying to make good, but it seems that I am supposed to wait for the manufacturer to call me--how likely is that!?!?  So, once again I am waiting for SS (I need my joysticks and them to contact me regarding fixing their bad wiring/ipac).    If this SS person is trying to make good with the community, he is doing a losy job. 

Does anyone have a diagram on how to wire the SS Classic?  If so, please contact me, I really want to get this thing working.  I am so frushtrated and POd right now that I am ready to throw the thing out the window.