Concave or Convex Buttons- Which Do You Prefer?

[Red]

I'm leaning towards Convex Buttons for my first cabinet and was wondering what y'all like better?

[Joystick Jerk]

Concave, simply because they're the classic arcade pushbutton and were used in most games.

[Havok]

Convex is mostly on the Japanese games - I grew up with concave, so that is the one I prefer...

[mountain]

Convave for me

[BobA]

Concave for me. The Convex just do not feel right.  Depends what you are used to I guess.

[Kajoq]

Convex Sanwas are the way to go!

That is if you're a fighting game / shmup junkie like I am

The concave happs feel so mushy and gross in comparison

[bluevolume]

Convex Sanwas are the way to go!

That is if you're a fighting game / shmup junkie like I am

The concave happs feel so mushy and gross in comparison

I hear they use pudding instead of springs.

[Kajoq]

They just use crappy springs... Every button press lets out a horrible *sproing* noise.  The sanwas just have a nice solid POP when you tap it.

Can't wait to go home this weekend and build my new control panel with my new parts.  2 Sanwa sticks and 21 buttons! (8 per player + 5 admin type buttons)

[ArtMAME]

CONCAVE LEAF SWITCH!!! CLASSIC ALL THE WAY!!!

[MrMojoZ]

I am really liking the look of convex buttons. I would pick up some Sanwas but I can't find any in black. 

Anyone tried the Happ competition convex buttons?

[Red]

Where's the best place to purchase Convex Sanwa buttons?  Thanks.

[Malenko]

i prefer concave because thats what Ive played on 99% of the time. nothing wrong with either

[divemaster127]

If this helps 99% of what I sell is concave & they are cheaper to purchase also
dm

[CheffoJeffo]

CONCAVE LEAF SWITCH!!! CLASSIC ALL THE WAY!!!

 

[xmenxmen]

If this helps 99% of what I sell is concave & they are cheaper to purchase also
dm

This is what I have too.  Back some moon ago, there was a few games with convex button on them, but I hated them.  They just don't feel right.

[Kajoq]

I am really liking the look of convex buttons. I would pick up some Sanwas but I can't find any in black. 

Anyone tried the Happ competition convex buttons?

Where's the best place to purchase Convex Sanwa buttons?  Thanks.

wwww.lizardlick.com

I recently ordered a pile of buttons and 2 joysticks from Lizard lick, quick service, reasonable prices.  And they have black

[heffe2001]

I am really liking the look of convex buttons. I would pick up some Sanwas but I can't find any in black. 

Anyone tried the Happ competition convex buttons?

I have happ competition convex's in my cab, and I like them pretty well.  I definitely like the look...

[koolmoecraig]

CONCAVE LEAF SWITCH!!! CLASSIC ALL THE WAY!!!

As deep as possible too.

[NoOne=NBA=]

I actually prefer flat.
I think the ones I prefer are from Seimitsu.
They came on the Jaleco cab I have, and are great.

[MrMojoZ]

I recently ordered a pile of buttons and 2 joysticks from Lizard lick, quick service, reasonable prices.  And they have black

No black ones avaliable for order on the website, can't even order the grey/black ones they have pictured. Did you talk to them directly or something? Would love some black OBSN-30s.

[Joystick Jerk]

I actually prefer flat.
I think the ones I prefer are from Seimitsu.
They came on the Jaleco cab I have, and are great.

Flat?!?

Pfft, my parents warned me about people like you.

[vidmouse]

Thought for sure this post would be some kind of poll.
For what it's worth, concave

cheap cheap concave

[lharles]

Concave.  Definitely.  Convex buttons just seem weird to me.

I AM weird so I don't know why I don't consider that a good thing...

 

[u_rebelscum]

I'm concave, because I grew up with that in the arcades, and the only convex where on console controllers which felt very cheap compared to the arcade buttons.

But use whatever floats your boat; I'm sure there's high quality convex buttons too.

[MrMojoZ]

I'm sure there's high quality convex buttons too.

I'm gonna say that highest quality/performance buttons are currently convex and that concave are for people trying to re-create a "feel" from the past. Easy to see the divide between the classic and modern gamers here.

[CheffoJeffo]

I'm gonna say that highest quality/performance buttons are currently convex and that concave are for people trying to re-create a "feel" from the past. Easy to see the divide between the classic and modern gamers here.

And I suppose that you like Nintendo sticks as well ...

 

[ahofle]

I'm sure there's high quality convex buttons too.

I'm gonna say that highest quality/performance buttons are currently convex and that concave are for people trying to re-create a "feel" from the past. Easy to see the divide between the classic and modern gamers here.

Just curious, why are they higher performance if they are convex?  I always likened it to PC keyboards.  Some of them have slightly concave keys and some are convex.  Neither really seems to make much difference (to me anyway).

[Kajoq]

Because most of the Convex buttons are japanese buttons.  They have nicer microswitches, less travel, and are more responsive in general

<3 Sanwa buttons.

[CheffoJeffo]

Because most of the Convex buttons are japanese buttons.  They have nicer microswitches, less travel, and are more responsive in general

Button shape != switch responsiveness

Although the point is taken ... FWIW, there are folks who like to tune their leaf switches for maximum responsiveness, which is not possible for most folks with microswitches.

[Kajoq]

In general concave buttons are significantly longer travel than convex, which does inherently mean less responsive.

Right now i've got 4 sanwa buttons and 2 concave happ buttons on p2 of my cabinet.

LP and LK suck compared to the other 4.

[CheffoJeffo]

In general concave buttons are significantly longer travel than convex, which does inherently mean less responsive.

Button shape!=travel distance.

OK, I will be more obvious this time ...

What would be more useful to people trying to choose amongst buttons is a statement like "Sanwa buttons/switches are more responsive that Happs concave buttons/switches". 

If I am not being clear, consider the fact that Happs convex buttons and Happs concave buttons use the same switches and have pretty much the same travel distance (at least according to the buttons in my box o' buttons).

The actual shape of the button top is irrelevant to the travel distance or switch responsiveness (it is like saying that ball handles are more responsive than bat handles).

And, as I tried to point out, generalized statements about travel don't necessarily apply to tuned leafswitches.

FWIW, for twitchy fighter stuff, I would use Sanwas ... but I am one of those oldtimers who is "trying" ( )  to recreate an experience, although I really like my Galaga and Asteroids fire buttons to be hair trigger.

[MrMojoZ]

And I suppose that you like Nintendo sticks as well ...

 

I don't know if I do or not, were they on playchoice cabinets? Only game I ever played on those cabinets was Castlevania and that was almost 20 years ago.  Currently though I want the best setup for fighters and as long as my wife doesn't find out how much they cost ("Whats wrong with buttons and joysticks you already have?") a set of Sanwas looks to be the best bet.

[CheffoJeffo]

And I suppose that you like Nintendo sticks as well ...

 

I don't know if I do or not, were they on playchoice cabinets? Only game I ever played on those cabinets was Castlevania and that was almost 20 years ago.  Currently though I want the best setup for fighters and as long as my wife doesn't find out how much they cost ("Whats wrong with buttons and joysticks you already have?") a set of Sanwas looks to be the best bet.

Sorry -- was a tongue-in-cheek shot at the "highest quality" comment (some folks maintain that Nintendo sticks are the highest quality sticks ever made).

For myself, I like leafswitches and concave buttons and have many that are 20+ years old and working fine (so can't really argue about the quality there).

[shardian]

I've messed with the controls on the tekken4/5 cabinets at the mall arcade. If those are the Sanwa convex buttons and the hallowed sanwa stick, then I don't like them. The convex buttons just feel cheap, and not arcade-like.