Donkey Kong question. Stuck on my restore.. Please Help..

[Neilyboy]

Alright, so my project announcement thread is here.. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=70324.0

I am somewhat stuck on where to go from here. I have a working original nintendo DK power supply (as far as I know). I have the original working Sanyo EZ monitor. I am at a loss as to what to do for wiring this thing up. I just won an auction for a working DK PCB. That should get here sometime this week I would guess. I have no wire harness' for the cab whatsoever. I am planning on building a control panel from scratch using some new leafs and a sanwa joystick that is on order through Ponyboy and should be here this week as well. So I am asking what do I do from here.

I dont know wether I should spend the 125 bucks to get a 'complete' DK power solution from arcadeshop (http://www.arcadeshop.com/pics/kong-harness.jpg). But if I do this wont my video be inverted so I would need an inverter board to invert the video back to the original 'inverted' video which is required by the Sanyo Monitor?? I have written sgregory@arcadeshop.com but he has not yet returned my email's. I am just at a total loss here. If I do this since I am building the cp from scratch wont I then need to splice off the ends of that and wire it all up myself anyways.. I am just lost..

I dont have alot of money to thorw at this project which I never imagined would cost me this much to begin with haha.. I am really just looking for my best solution. I would love to find someone with a bunch of the internal wiring (harness') for a DK cab and just have them sell me all the wires I need but I havent been able to find a place online to sell me what all is required. Nor have I really even found what all is required. I have just seen the three or so power cables which jump from the power supply to the pcb.

I hope someone out there can point me in the right direction as im very close to finishing this project I just need some help in what to do and where to go next.

Thanks so much for looking,

Neil

[BobA]

Bob Roberts has a page that explains how to connect a switcher to a DK and still retain the ability to connect your old DK supply.    If you just want to replace the DK and use a switcher then you can forget about the molex connections that just make the PS changeable.   For about $30 for a switcher and the cost of wire and a connector you can build the 125 dollar arcade shop power harness.

Link

[Neilyboy]

Yeah, I have that page book marked but I do not have the adapter that hooks up to the PCB itself. I was hoping to go this route but where do I find the smaller black connectors that attach to the PCB???

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is there some sort of edge connector I can use on the DK board that is available online? All I see is the 'expensive' cables available all separately of course from quarterarcade.. I would love to see a DK edge connector or something that I can just match the wires to where they need to be and be done with it..

Neil

[Kevin Mullins]

I dont know wether I should spend the 125 bucks to get a 'complete' DK power solution from arcadeshop (http://www.arcadeshop.com/pics/kong-harness.jpg). But if I do this wont my video be inverted so I would need an inverter board to invert the video back to the original 'inverted' video which is required by the Sanyo Monitor??

The BIGGEST misunderstanding about the Sanyo 20EZ is that it is ALREADY designed to accept the inverted signal which is what is coming from an original Nintendo game pcb. The "inverter" board on those monitors is for running any OTHER games on it. (standard RGB signals) You don't even need the inverter board at all for a DK setup.

The wiring harness for sale by Arcadeshop is designed to completely replace a DK harness and is setup for a switching power supply. Meaning you wouldn't use your original power supply unless you wanted the 24vdc for the coin counters. It's really up to you if you want to buy a harness or make your own. Download the DK manual for the schematics and pinouts if you decide to build your own. But you would need the right pcb edge connector and other connectors and wiring to do it yourself.

Bob Roberts will have everything you need to build a harness if you decide to go that route. Including the pcb edge connector.
http://homearcade.org/BBBB/conectas.html
Schematics
http://arcarc.xmission.com/PDF_Arcade_Nintendo/Donkey_Kong_Schematics_(TKG-4).pdf

[Kevin Mullins]

Did you get a TWO board or a FOUR board DK pcb set from ebay?
(needto know info whether you decide to buy or build a harness)

[Neilyboy]

I got the two board set. So is the edge connector used on an upright or only if I am to build my own harness is the edge connector used. If I am to use an edge connector and build a harness myself which one off of bob robert's site am I to purchase?

Thanks so much in advance guys.

Neil

[Wade]

I got the two board set. So is the edge connector used on an upright or only if I am to build my own harness is the edge connector used. If I am to use an edge connector and build a harness myself which one off of bob robert's site am I to purchase?

Thanks so much in advance guys.

Neil

Sounds like your easiest/cheapest route for power is stick with the original PS or just wire in a switcher, and switchers are usually $10 used or about $25 new.

For the rest of the wiring, you should just buy a harness used from ebay or someone, shouldn't set you back but a few bucks since harnesses just aren't worth much. You could use an original DK or DK junior which has several individual connectors for the boards, OR you could use a Mario Bros (and some other games) harness which just has one big edge connector (I'd probably go this route).  I plugged 2 sets of DK junior PCB's into my Mario Bros edge connector and both boards worked fine and I could even play the game (except I could only move left right because the joystick is 2 way instead of 4 way).

Wade

[Neilyboy]

Thats the problem though Wade I have been looking around for quite awhile now (couple of months) and watching for a DK harness or anything with the words nintendo and harness in them hehe.. and I cant locate anything.. If you know of any place selling a harness let me know!
Neil

[AwesomeAlbert]

I think i have an extra original harnest (are those the rainbow ones?).  i have/had (parted out one)  two dk cabs, one for parts, .  I just need to know what is needed to get one running (pulleverthing out, dont know where it goes).

[BrentRadio]

Here is some original wiring for DK


http://www.quarterarcade.com/Browse.aspx?c=All.Parts.Wire

Brent

[Neilyboy]

ill be damn'd nostalgia just hooked me up with a link to an auction that out of no-where just popped up.. I have been looking for a month and a half and nothing ever came up now there is one.. wish me luck..
Neil

[Wade]

Also try posting to RGVAC newsgroup, I can't imagine it'd be hard to turn up one of those harnesses, someone might even give you one.  I've given away or thrown out many harnesses.

Wade

[AwesomeAlbert]

ill be damn'd nostalgia just hooked me up with a link to an auction that out of no-where just popped up.. I have been looking for a month and a half and nothing ever came up now there is one.. wish me luck..
Neil

I see that auction too. 

[Neilyboy]

nice well i got outbid.. who here said they sell cheap all the time.. i dont know what auctions you are watching.. the damn harness went for 43 bucks...

damnit now i dont know where to go from here.. im seriously just going to solder the damn wires to the pcb im burnt out on this restore already..

neil

[Wade]

Post to the newsgroup RGVAC instead of trying to snag one off of greedbay.  People give stuff like that away, someone probably has one sitting in their junk box.

Wade

[AwesomeAlbert]

Neilyboy, i think i have an extra set of wires im going to go check the shed. ill sell them to you for 40 bucks. 

[Neilyboy]

Thanks so much for the heads-up wade. and Thanks for the offer awesomeal Ill let ya know if I cant come up with one this week. I found a guy who says he will sell me a complete harness shipped to my door for $25 bucks. He says he will send me pics on tuesday so I said sounds great. We will see in the meantime im going to request to my nntp provider that i have access to post and make a post there wade thanks so much

Neil

[AwesomeAlbert]

Neilyboy
I went through my box of wires that i pulled out the dk cab i got for parts, i have 3 9pin harnesses, 3 10pin, 3 control panel harnesses, 1 video cable and 1 sound cable. 3 control panels in bad shape but the wiring intact.  Now i know why you couldn't find a harness, i have them all ! I got two cabs from a local guy, one had no monitor, no pcb, no power supply, i wanted it for the control panel. pulled everything out put it in a box,  didn't know where anything goes, well after following your thread and some searches, i guess it had the harnesses of two games in it  ?.if your deal falls through ill hook u up. 


just double checking, can someone verify this
I think for a game you need one 9 pin (rainbow from powersupply to board), one 10 pin(rainbow from power supply to board), one cp harness (rainbow that spits to two from board to cp), one video (white that goes from monitor to board), sound (brown goes from board to monitor). speaker (red/white monitor to speaker), the control panel and coindoor wires.

what is the 7 pin connection on the power supply for?

[Neilyboy]

I will let you know today albert! you are the man thank you so much for looking for me. they guy that offered it to me for 25 shipped said he would send me pictures sometime today. if he falls through I will let you know! Thanks again albert you the man.

Neil