Author Topic: Run-time error in Virtual Music Jukebox (Read 12718 times)

lionmex · « **on:** August 29, 2007, 11:08:46 am »

HI,

I have Virtual Music Jukebox running in my Jukebox but it appears periodically a window on the screen with the message "run-time error" and I cannot eliminate this error unless I install VMJ again, nevertheless, the error appears again after some days. Someone has had this problem and has identified the origin of this error? Could someone to suggest me some option to correct this? I thank any help.

mflint · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2007, 01:24:34 am »

Not to sound nasty, But it is called another software. read some of the blogs on here and you will find that VJM it is not supported. Check out Freebox it has the best support you are going to find or just try a few other ones. I know I sound negative but I have been the route that you are now in. Suggestions never hurt, Sometimes they alleviate some of the hassle you are going thru.
If you search back into the blogs you will see the progress and the pitfalls of all programs, nobody holds back when they screw up. Some programs are free some not to pricey, And some are outrageous, But then again that depends on the buyer and what they want to do with the program. So hope this helps and I know you already have the one set up and everything seems to run fine for a while, But then it screws up and sometimes hope you have not had to reinstall windows because eventually you will, because that program tends to take things with it when that happens.
Best of luck

lionmex · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:35:18 pm »

Thanks for your comments mflint. I´ll search back into the blogs. Could you suggest me some of this blogs specifically?

MameDownUnder · « **Reply #3 on:** November 05, 2007, 09:23:25 pm »

lionmex

VMJ has always been supported, and their forum is open again. Take a screenshot and post in the forum, im sure someone will help you

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2007, 04:13:35 am »

Quote from: MameDownUnder on November 05, 2007, 09:23:25 pm

lionmex

VMJ has always been supported, and their forum is open again. Take a screenshot and post in the forum, im sure someone will help you

I suppose VMJ re-opened the forums and brought the project back from the dead following the end of SK Jukebox.

If you have paid for VMJ then i suggest you do try and get them to fix the issue.

digitaldj · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2007, 10:42:00 pm »

Mamedownunder,

VMJ is a lost cause!

I thought I would give it a try a couple of weeks ago. I have always liked the look but as soon as I downloaded it was like old problems all over again. It wouldn't install properly so I sent them a bug report and nobody got back with me. Thank god I have only spent 20 bucks and not anymore because it is just not worth the headache. I also voiced my opinion on their forum and guess what Scott finally answered that and had banned me from the forums. I guess he has forgotten he stills has my 20 bucks, I guess I need to tell him where to put it (HA HA!).

In my opinion I would not mess with them unless you want to give your money away and get alot of headaches for it.

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2007, 09:51:07 am »

People shouldn't give up like this, if you have paid him for the software he should at least offer a functioning product or try too. ThePCjukebox has gone the same route, still selling a version that has several reported bugs that the author has agreed will not be fixed. He is supposedly working on a new jukebox app that people will have to pay for again.

People shouldn't be allowed to get away with taking money and not offering a functioning product. I do my best to fix problems as they are reported and i think others should do the same, it's called customer service.

digitaldj · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2007, 11:49:22 am »

I agree with you on the support, especially if you have posted on your site that you will give a 24hr response then do it. I deal with customer service everyday in my job and when I had a disc jockey business I realized a long time ago say what you do, do what you say plus give them more than they expect. I was on board with VMJ a couple of years ago and the one thing I told them was first get a stable working piece of software, once that is done then add everything to it one feature at a time and keep it stable, well of coarse they didn't want to listen. I am proud to say my lighting software is stable and it's free!

If I was to make a touch screen juke I would use your software, I appreciate your passion for the hobby. This is something that the crew at VMJ has forgotten.

Unfortunately Sk Jukebox is not being supported and I wish he would have sold the code to someone for future support. This software for me is rock solid and that's why I use it. It may not look fancy but functionality comes first.

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2007, 05:40:45 pm »

SK Beats VMJ hands down, it's ashame the 2 version floating around have minor bugs in them. I have a feeling SK will come back one day with a new version.

Space Fractal · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2007, 06:12:34 pm »

Salmonking have offfieciel said he have retired from the project, so it of course not supported anymore. That it. And yes I really liked it my self, even I is a competer (Simple GUI and good functionel is all I like).

The most sad part of Arcade Music Box is I killed it after I tried to add some requested (and maybe paid) features and then suddently lost most of the source (first half year after I got it back again). Instead I "closed" it and went into MultiJuke (which now can act something like Sk-Jukebox but still have a bit diffecent GUI). In MultiJuke I have the source on 2 machines (due to the Linux port). By now Im trying to add the few missing features from Windows version to Linux, but it not about it on this thread (it to off typic).

VMJ (which was and have been popular) do still sell and never commented about or the forum was long time down, and they even released a version 8 beta here, but what happens to that?

digitaldj · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2007, 06:52:24 pm »

Space Fractal, do you have a website that describes your software and all of it's features?

Barcrest, can your software use buttons?

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #11 on:** November 28, 2007, 03:26:48 am »

Freebox can use buttons, it has mappable keyboard support for most functions. However if you are looking for something to replace SK Then multijuke may suit you better. I have a demo of freebox on my site you could give that a try.

Space Fractal · « **Reply #12 on:** November 28, 2007, 06:51:54 am »

http://www.multijuke.com

You should use 1.04.2 from the forum, because I havent updated the downloadpage as well, due I working on the 1.04.2 to add a few missing features (ID3, ZIP and Unicode) from Windows version to the Linux port. A lots of bugs is fixed there.

hoping it not to much offtypic, elsewice sorry.

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #13 on:** November 28, 2007, 08:40:21 am »

Quote from: Space Fractal on November 27, 2007, 06:12:34 pm

Salmonking have offfieciel said he have retired from the project, so it of course not supported anymore. That it.

That doesn't mean anything he still has the source and could easilly come back once he regains interest. Unless he has lost the source then there is always a chance he will come back with a new release even if it's just bug fixes.

Space Fractal · « **Reply #14 on:** November 28, 2007, 10:48:28 am »

he might got right. But I remember he retired even he known these very few minor bugs (and they are minor). He might even create a new jukebox software with a other name later or sooner (If he lost the source). Who known?

Should been very much If I lost the source again because I use 2 machines to develop MultiJuke (one for Windows and one for Linux and they share mostly the same code, but copy the would Linux & Windows specefik code anyway)....

digitaldj · « **Reply #15 on:** December 02, 2007, 11:50:38 am »

First off let me make a public apology To Scott(VMJ, Mamaeroom) for dogging his software. If he is able to help you out with the problem that's great. I have past judgment long enough, and I'm tired of being an a hole.

Lionmex,

The guys at VMJ should give you some help! Like i've said I have always liked VMJ it was the first jukebox program that inspired me to build my juke. I'm sure there has been things going on in their lives like all of us that we have to put something to the side and take care of the more important stuff at that time.

Digitaldj/Kevin

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2007, 04:27:03 pm »

Quote from: digitaldj on December 02, 2007, 11:50:38 am

First off let me make a public apology To Scott(VMJ, Mamaeroom) for dogging his software. If he is able to help you out with the problem that's great. I have past judgment long enough, and I'm tired of being an a hole.

Lionmex,

The guys at VMJ should give you some help! Like i've said I have always liked VMJ it was the first jukebox program that inspired me to build my juke. I'm sure there has been things going on in their lives like all of us that we have to put something to the side and take care of the more important stuff at that time.

Digitaldj/Kevin

So scott emailled you too then... My opinion remains unchanged.

digitaldj · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2007, 05:38:54 pm »

Yes I was contacted but we are trying to work through our differences, life is to short to argue all the time. I've got a wife for that!

Don't you also think that VMJ has caught alot of flack because it was one of the first Jukebox Programs out there and it was all about getting the bugs worked out. I remeber the time when a new program came out that pretty muck copied the idea of VMJ and guess what it was called SK Jukebox. What prgrammers have learned is what bugs there would be because VMJ had to experience them. In my opinion VMJ opened the doors to make it easier for everyone else. All any of you have to do is just think about it.

You don't think that we are going through some headaches with our lighting software, we were one of the first besides Color Kinetics to do sound control with led lighting. The difference is they do it via DMX512 and we do digital to digital sound processing via the USB Port.

You know everybody has their opinions and I have been ridiculed on this forum also about my jukebox and my lights, but you know rather it's here or at work etc. there is no use in me complaing about something that can't be fixed. All it does is harbor bad feelings. As the saying goes the proof is in the pudding. I just recently downloaded Multijuke and had problems with it so it can be any software. I purchased a database program a few years ago to use for my Dj Business and music collection and had problems with it and by the time the got the issues straightened out they changed some of the search criteria. I paid $100.00 for that software and never agian will I pay that without trying it first.

I do believe in the general majority software developers put their software out there with a donation at least unitl the bugs are worked out then a fee accordingly or free whatever they choose.

The one thing I have found(myself included) somethings we want to get as cheap or best deal as we can and other things we will spend the money for, that's just people. The other thing I have noticed is people get defensive when someone else comes up with a good idea or possibly something that is better(jealousy), let's just be happy for those people that have had the oportunity to shine.

People are how people are treated!

We are here to help each other and in my opinion it is best to try and keep positive attitudes. There is alot of people on here with various skills and ideas that's what makes a forum great.

Yes I am trying to change!

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #18 on:** December 02, 2007, 08:38:22 pm »

Quote from: digitaldj on December 02, 2007, 05:38:54 pm

Don't you also think that VMJ has caught alot of flack because it was one of the first Jukebox Programs out there and it was all about getting the bugs worked out. I remeber the time when a new program came out that pretty muck copied the idea of VMJ and guess what it was called SK Jukebox. What prgrammers have learned is what bugs there would be because VMJ had to experience them. In my opinion VMJ opened the doors to make it easier for everyone else. All any of you have to do is just think about it.

This is not really true at all on 2 counts....

1) If it was the first that would mean it has had the longest development time, hence it should be far more stable than the newer applications just by the sheer amount of time that should have been spent on it. Likewise i could go on to say it should have the best feature set but that is objective.

2) I only found out about VMJ after i had already written my software and i have tried several of the demos and they didn't work with various errors. SK Jukebox wouldn't read tags for me either but as it was free i didn't see an issue with it and i have even released source code on here that would have fixed that issue. I wrote my software because i brought thePCJukebox which also became unsupported and so i wrote my own. Which is why SK Jukebox came about he was a frustrated VMJ customer.

Quote from: digitaldj on December 02, 2007, 05:38:54 pm

I would almost bet that some code I gave away is what is being used in LedWiz because it is almost impossible to find a programmer that can pull it off. I didn't mind to share or trade some code with a fellow forum member.

Dude you want to watch what you are saying here. If that LEDWIZ code is nothing like yours, and lets be honest sound to light isn't rocket science (I have mada BETABRITE display dance to music, i have a youtube video) he might be in a possition to demand an appology or take legal action. As for you giving it away IIRC you asked for someone to code that for you, i thought it was SK but i might be wrong. You are now implying you wrote it.

Quote from: digitaldj on December 02, 2007, 05:38:54 pm

I just recently downloaded Multijuke and had problems with it so it can be any software. I purchased a database program a few years ago to use for my Dj Business and music collection and had problems with it and by the time the got the issues straightened out they changed some of the search criteria. I paid $100.00 for that software and never agian will I pay that without trying it first.

Ok 2 issues here,

1) If you have paid for something it should work as advertised so they should have fixed your problem or offered a refund.

2) In regards to VMJ as this thred is, people did try before they brought it. The demo was limited to the number of songs/albums you could use and it was only when used properly (Full version, they had paid) that the bugs/issues came to light.

Quote from: digitaldj on December 02, 2007, 05:38:54 pm

People are how people are treated!

This is why people are so off with VMJ. Go back on this very thred, it wasn't me telling people to try other software but VMJ's own customers who have been treated so badly they are now treating Mameroom with the same level of contempt......

I have a feeling we might see an announcement regarding your lights and mameroom real soon, i could be wrong but only time will tell.

digitaldj · « **Reply #19 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:16:23 pm »

Barcrest,

That's funny because when I talked to you about the project you didn't know how to go about it, but that's ok! No it wasn't SK, but I did find someone that kicks but when it comes to programming.

Dude where did I say anything about LedWiz. You gotta quit putting stuff in quotes!

Besides Color Kinetics has a patent on audio control of led lighting and if they find out I won't be the one getting sued.

Ok then let's say with all the problems VMJ has had has forced other people to write software then tell me what's wrong with that. Learn from others mistakes is what I say. I'm not here to defend them, I just apologized.

Look i'm not going to argue, i'm done with the conversation.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 02, 2007, 11:09:35 pm »

Hey, you did say LEDWiz. WTF? When he grabs your quote, you're locked in. I will verify that you said it. I don't really care one way or another on this topic, but changing your post is bunk.

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #21 on:** December 03, 2007, 01:27:35 am »

Man what a joker...

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 09:34:10 PM by digitaldj »

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 08:44:15 PM by Barcrest »

Hmmm you edit your post almost and hjour after me then try and make it look like i made up what you said about LEDWIZ. You know you said it so what's matter, luckilly for me others saw what you had written as well before you posted it. Looking at the times you can't even say you were editting it when i posted.

I never said i couldn't code what you wanted i actually said i wouldn't do it for free if you were going to be charging for the product. I said i would do it if you released the plans free of charge, you got in a stop then i still have mails and PM's if you want me to post them up.

Then you say VMJ has forced peope to write other software... Well it made SK Write his juke yes, because the supplied software wouldn't work. How is that good that you end up having to code your own because what you paid for didn't work? Also you clearly know nothing about programming as you keep citing "Learn from others mistakes". Just because one program has a bug in it doesn't mean you will copy that program and not have the bug or even have the same bug....

To be honest i hope you do strike a deal with mameroom for your lighting product, you seem like you are both struck from the same mold. Feel free to edit your posts further should you wish to try and make yourself look better.

digitaldj · « **Reply #22 on:** December 03, 2007, 07:55:48 am »

I have had posts changed on me, big deal! So everybody sue me IDGAF!

It's mold not mould!

Nope no deals!

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #23 on:** December 03, 2007, 08:10:07 am »

What do you mean mold not mould?

digitaldj · « **Reply #24 on:** December 03, 2007, 08:13:49 am »

In america it's mold!

"Mould" chiefly British variant of mold

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #25 on:** December 03, 2007, 08:23:14 am »

Where do you think i'm from? This thred has just become a farce.

digitaldj · « **Reply #26 on:** December 03, 2007, 08:26:09 am »

No it became a farce when we were all bad mouthing VMJ

We all need to get a life!

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #27 on:** December 03, 2007, 08:45:39 am »

Quote from: Barcrest on November 06, 2007, 04:13:35 am

I suppose VMJ re-opened the forums and brought the project back from the dead following the end of SK Jukebox.

If you have paid for VMJ then i suggest you do try and get them to fix the issue.

That's my post, not really bad mouthing them there....

Quote from: digitaldj on November 26, 2007, 10:42:00 pm

Mamedownunder,

VMJ is a lost cause!

I also voiced my opinion on their forum and guess what Scott finally answered that and had banned me from the forums. I guess he has forgotten he stills has my 20 bucks, I guess I need to tell him where to put it (HA HA!).

In my opinion I would not mess with them unless you want to give your money away and get alot of headaches for it.

That's the short version of your post, looks like you were far worse than i was on this thred. The farce came about with you edditing your posts and have two totally opposing views in the same thred.

Your PM was nice too, i have forwarded that to Saint as i class that to be abuse.

leapinlew · « **Reply #28 on:** December 03, 2007, 09:11:13 am »

Quote from: digitaldj on December 02, 2007, 09:16:23 pm

Dude where did I say anything about LedWiz.

I saw it. You edited it out. Whats the deal with that?

Space Fractal · « **Reply #29 on:** December 03, 2007, 10:22:03 am »

any issues in MultiJuke should goo to the MJ forum (but thanks for the PM). Otherwice I have no change to fix these bugs and help.

I wrote my software because I was just wanted to have a Mamewah like style. Hence I wroted Arcade Music Box. Later I also wrote MultiJuke due to some source lost, but rescure it a lots moments after....

Look like this topic is being to much offtypic and should closing it.


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