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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2007, 05:02:23 pm »
You guys are cracking me up.

OK, I've avoided it until now, but I'm going to say it directly ... you really are too offensive for your own good ... you don't know how to debate, you are belligerent and you can't support your facts (even when some of them actually ARE facts).

Arguing points is one thing, but you keep telling people that they're stupid and don't understand, without any reasonable attempt to provide proof for your facts *and* you completely fail to address those who point your obnoxiousness out.

The last time you pulled this crap, you got your butt handed to you by RandyT and others in some sad attempt to justify your choice of an LCD over an arcade monitor (HINT: If you want an LCD, justify it by saying that you prefer an LCD instead of running your mouth, sounding like a clown and offending your superiors).

You even managed to make tranqhair look good in that thread ... and THAT takes talent.

Really, who is foolish enough to suggest that ahofle doesn't understand how an ArcadeVGA works and that RandyT doesn't have a defense (I may not always agree with RandyT, but I know that he usually has a point and that flailing away at him like a clueless monkey just makes you look more foolish).

And this time it is all because you prefer one lame fighter over another ... it's not like you're choosing between GOOD games, like, say Galaga and Robotron ...

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2007, 07:31:20 pm »
Streets Of Rage rocks!

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2007, 07:35:00 pm »
And this time it is all because you prefer one lame fighter over another ... it's not like you're choosing between GOOD games, like, say Galaga and Robotron ...
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #83 on: August 18, 2007, 08:53:17 pm »
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MK sold with an estimated 15 million home cosole games a record not likely to ever be beaten when you speak of paying customers.    I remember when it went down, and I know that alot of games went into peoples homes.   It was hysteria.    At last I remember the coinops were in the neighborhood of 1000 ALONE.   This isn't included the spinoffs.   SFII franchise is around 5000 so you guys figure it out.

Care to provide your source for these numbers?  I'd actually be interested in seeing it, b/c I'd really like to know how many of each classic cabinet was made.  That'd be a nice stat for MAME.  Anyway, I'm not impressed. 

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But hey, it is a free country and fanboys will no doubt disagree no matter the evidenc.

You are clearly an expert in this subject.

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SFII was inventive and MK took it even further with addition of the block button and the non retreating way it was played.    MK was not derivative of SFII other then it was a fighting game of which both were derivative of others.

Please name the player vs. player fighting games that came before Street Fighter 2, other than Karate Champ and that POS Pit Fighter.

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I never called you any of the above.  I try not to call direct names, I only imply.

Yeah, that's a lot classier.

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So according to your info MK1 never broke a million??!! :laugh2:   Did you ever hear of Mortal Monday???

Yeah, I was there picking up my copy, while you were likely having your diaper changed. If there's no reference, it doesn't stay on Wikipedia for long. If you have numbers and references with which to back your sales argument, please provide, otherwise don't bother arguing that point anymore.

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You will find with a little google that those numbers have been staggering. 

Guess I'll have to do that myself since you can't be bothered with it...

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The facts are that sales numbers for Video Games are tracked even less and estimates are all we have.   SFII was popular but not more popular then MK.    Rentals alone should show you this.  SFII was always easy to find.   MK is in pawn shops alot, no doubt.  Because so many damn games were sold.   A little research will give you obvious answers.

So basically you're arguing about numbers and saying that the numbers are probably not even that accurate...then you refer to some website in the middle of nowhere with no reference...then you give anoecdotal evidence.  You're really not doing a very good job arguing your side here.  I really hope you are not on your high school forensics team.  (this is what's known as baiting, BTW  ;) )

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But don't pretend that a small group of people is the opinion of millions.

No one did that.  You are the one who keeps equating units sold to quality.  Britney Spears sold over 76 million albums but that does not mean she is a good artist, now does it?

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MK has taken a beating as of late because of the reputation that was lost through poor ports.

No, the beating you speak of is more like that of a dead horse...kind of like this thread...

Now GTFOML.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #84 on: August 18, 2007, 10:49:36 pm »
Please point out how "Randy T" beat my butt.

If you actually take the time to read what I wrote as opposed to being a groupie you will find that commons sense will tell you that I was correct from the beginning and even MAME devs themselves understood exactly what I spoke of.

To rehash it here is redundant, but I will say it shortly...you have no frickin' idea what you are talking about.   Randy T on the other hand understood exactly what I spoke of, but refused to speak of the most common sense aspect of the whole arguement.

Getting the pixels represented correctly is the ground floor of presenting emulation accurately.    Effects can be laid down later.   Randy T was arguing page after page about how the Programmers wanted it this way or that way....yet he never could comment on the simple fact that the card approximated the pixel output using a much more accurate means on an LCD screen.

Now care to comment on this fact or are either of you going to resort to more childish name calling.

Randy T did....that and the fact that he got his feewings hurt becaue I astutely pointed out that his hate came from bashing the Arcade VGA which wasn't made by him. 

Care to look at some history...check out some of his and Christains exchanges...not to mention with many others on this board. 

I apologized to him actually because I wasn't done with the debate and he cried off like a little girl.   Now who "beat the butt" in this regard?   Last I saw, the closer I got to the truth the more he skated.   If you undertood the arguement, perhaps you would agree with me...but of course that would mean that you would have to stop being a groupie and actually think for yourself.   

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I don't know how to get this through to you....but coming up with exact numbers would be rounding at best.    The Midway official website(or a link to the article) stated that MK the original arcade sold around 15 million.   I actually remember these figures from the old Game Pro magazines that I had at the time.    But you don't believe it, that doesn't matter.   I don't care if you believe it.

As for the rest of your personal attacks.   Only a coward would act like that.   I have never once disrespected you or anyone else for that matter, so you really can end this whole thing.   I could care less what you think or what you stand for.

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No one did that.  You are the one who keeps equating units sold to quality.  Britney Spears sold over 76 million albums but that does not mean she is a good artist, now does it?

No one did that???   How red are those glasses anyway?    If you look at what was written...which means the opinion of a few on here doesn't equate to the opinion of millions...then you do understand that yes popularity is usually an indication of greatness.   Not always...but alot of the time.   

As for Britney...just what have you done lately?    :laugh2:    So many followers on here, do you actually have opinions of your own?    Just how many times am I going to hear the Britney Spears equation.   Yet it never did have merit from the word go.   

If you don't have sense enough to debate with class, then maybe it is time you go.   
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2007, 11:04:05 pm »
Great Swordsman from 84 was a damn fun game.   Simple, but fun.

edit:  Went back to check it out, turns out its not player vs player, darn!
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2007, 11:26:34 pm »
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2007, 01:07:54 am »
Saint seems to be saying something...what could it be?
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2007, 02:09:10 am »
Streets Of Rage rocks!

It isn't a fighter though.

Also, MK was made popular due to the use of blood, secrets and fatalities. Not because of actual game play. I find it silly for someone to say otherwise, but it takes all kinds I guess.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2007, 02:11:40 am »
Also, MK was made popular due to the use of blood, secrets and fatalities. Not because of actual game play. I find it silly for someone to say otherwise, but it takes all kinds I guess.
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2007, 02:17:28 am »
If you want to put everyone on a level playing field, I would suggest that you choose a game that not many people play, but is still fairly easy to learn.  Rage of the Dragons or Power Instinct Matrimelee fall square in the middle of that category.  Matrimelee also has some great music and graphics, considering the limitations of the Neo Geo platform.




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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2007, 03:21:37 am »
Saint seems to be saying something...what could it be?

With any luck, it's the ancient chant of the Banhammer.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2007, 03:54:19 am »
I dont remember the fightin game I think its called matrimelee his name is PEPE! :notworthy:

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2007, 10:16:52 am »
Please point out how "Randy T" beat my butt.

If you actually take the time to read what I wrote as opposed to being a groupie you will find that commons sense will tell you that I was correct from the beginning and even MAME devs themselves understood exactly what I spoke of.

To rehash it here is redundant, but I will say it shortly...you have no frickin' idea what you are talking about.   Randy T on the other hand understood exactly what I spoke of, but refused to speak of the most common sense aspect of the whole arguement.

Getting the pixels represented correctly is the ground floor of presenting emulation accurately.    Effects can be laid down later.   Randy T was arguing page after page about how the Programmers wanted it this way or that way....yet he never could comment on the simple fact that the card approximated the pixel output using a much more accurate means on an LCD screen.

Now care to comment on this fact or are either of you going to resort to more childish name calling.

Randy T did....that and the fact that he got his feewings hurt becaue I astutely pointed out that his hate came from bashing the Arcade VGA which wasn't made by him. 

Care to look at some history...check out some of his and Christains exchanges...not to mention with many others on this board. 

I apologized to him actually because I wasn't done with the debate and he cried off like a little girl.   Now who "beat the butt" in this regard?   Last I saw, the closer I got to the truth the more he skated.   If you undertood the arguement, perhaps you would agree with me...but of course that would mean that you would have to stop being a groupie and actually think for yourself.   

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Jcoleman,

I don't know how to get this through to you....but coming up with exact numbers would be rounding at best.    The Midway official website(or a link to the article) stated that MK the original arcade sold around 15 million.   I actually remember these figures from the old Game Pro magazines that I had at the time.    But you don't believe it, that doesn't matter.   I don't care if you believe it.

As for the rest of your personal attacks.   Only a coward would act like that.   I have never once disrespected you or anyone else for that matter, so you really can end this whole thing.   I could care less what you think or what you stand for.

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No one did that.  You are the one who keeps equating units sold to quality.  Britney Spears sold over 76 million albums but that does not mean she is a good artist, now does it?

No one did that???   How red are those glasses anyway?    If you look at what was written...which means the opinion of a few on here doesn't equate to the opinion of millions...then you do understand that yes popularity is usually an indication of greatness.   Not always...but alot of the time.   

As for Britney...just what have you done lately?    :laugh2:    So many followers on here, do you actually have opinions of your own?    Just how many times am I going to hear the Britney Spears equation.   Yet it never did have merit from the word go.   

If you don't have sense enough to debate with class, then maybe it is time you go.   




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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2007, 11:38:48 am »
pit fighter wasn't really a fighter, since it wasn't just 1 on 1 , it was sort of a side scrolling beat em that didn't side scroll. Lets just super derail this thread and say SFII is better and better on a CRT then MK on an LCD  :cheers:

MK1 did use the blood and fatals to lure players in, thats what drew me to the game. However, they did put a lot of effort into improving the game and making MKII a much better then the first. Can you honestly say you didnt think it was neat to see reptile pull his hood off and gobble his opponents head?  And no that doesnt mean its "better" then SFII just different.

The thread title is way off it should read "What is your fave fighter?" or "What fighter do you think is best?"  there is no actual best.  Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Killer Instinct, hell even Eternal Champions all have their own fans for their own reasons. Why argue when you can just enjoy the damn games?

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #95 on: August 19, 2007, 01:14:00 pm »
#1.)Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike.

Amazing sprite animation. Uber tight controls. Very stylish and well rounded characters. Not all flashy and over the top like all the capcom/marvel crossovers....

#2.) Capcom vs. SNK 2

A good fighter...though it has some issues. Namely they cheaped out and rehashed old sprites from other games instead of updating them to match other cleaner sprites.

#3.) Guilty Gear

Fast...furious...and really damn good sprite animation.

#4.) Mortal Kombat II

Purely because its a friggin classic. I pumped so many quarters into this puppy.

#5.) Fatal Fury (Garou) Mark of the Wolf

Best SNK fighter IMO. I just love this game.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2007, 01:55:45 pm »
Wow, just wow.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2007, 05:34:53 pm »
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2007, 07:24:03 pm »
Well said Malenko.   I like them all and on any given day can fire up most any one the ones you mentioned.

I just prefer MK and stated my reasons.   Nothing more..nothing less.

Saint has made his statment, and I will respect it.   No need to call names, and I for one am going to cease this nonesense.

Though, I must say elements of MK II were better but the overall balance was way off.   Reptile was weak and he was the glaring problem that was never fixed till 3.   The problem in that it brough on more imbalance till it got to the point of crazy.

Not to mention those horrendous  friendships.   To me, that was the beginning of the edge being taken off the game.   I appreciate the dark atmosphere of the first game, and that among a thousand other reasons is why I prefer the original.   

A special edition of the original should be made someday with more frames added as well as HD ala SFII.   That is all.   It has yet to be ported 100% correctly and that is a shame because it has always been a wonderful game.   Been playing for almost 15 years now and it has all the charm of the first coin entered.    Thank goodness for MAME because at least it was preserved in all its greatness.

As for part II...yeah I prefer Star Wars over Empire because it stands on its own...and just like MK the original will always be the most popular.   The debate over which is better will always rage on, but at least there are 2 games in the aresonal that set the parameters for all fighters that came after.   

Though Armeggedon is great fun, it will never give me that feeling that the old 2d games gave.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #99 on: August 20, 2007, 12:35:19 am »
My personal favorites are:

2D fighter
Marvel vs. Capcom 2  I own the Dreamcast and Xbox versions.  I love to play with characters that I grew up reading.  The saving up points to get extra characters kept me playing for hours.  The 3d background adds a little extra umph to the game.  I'm sure that there are better playing games, but this is a personal taste.

3D fighter
I like Soul Calibur.  Tekken, Virtua Fighter, DOA, are all great games, but for me, I've spent the most time on Soul Calibur.

Hybrid Figter/other
I'd have to go with another Dreamcast game.  I loved the Powerstone series.

Side Scroller/fighter
Once again, being a comic fan, I loved Captain America and X-men.  They were too short and with the advent of saves, or console ports, they don't have the replay value of vs. fighters.  There are many classics in this category.  I love Aliens vs. Predators, Asterix, Simpsons, Wild West C.O.W.  Boys of Moo Mesa, and TMNT.  Since they are more of a co-op type fighter, with endings, I don't think of them as fighters that have as dedicated following as a vs. type game.  Once you beat them, you think, "well that was cool, now what?"

Obscure Fighter
I remember playing Rocky 3 on the Colecovision.  It had a special controller with buttons inside a grip.  My buddies and I would spend hours on that game beating the crap out of each other.  It was cool having a special controller for a game.  I'm sure the memory of it is better than how good the game actually was.


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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2007, 01:24:52 am »
Browsing around here, I wandered into the middle of the whole MK vs SF argument. I have heard people argue other games, but rarely compare them to SF. While I do not claim to be a techno savvy stud, nor a even a computer literate guy whatsoever, I did spend all my free time in the arcade like many young boys. So I will not try and fake it, and claim that I know a darn thing about "easter eggs" or "loop holes" or new editions with glitches and resolution.

I joined this web community just today, for a number of reasons, but the first thing I wanted to do was to call out a phony. Whoever Genesim is, and whatever he claims to know about anything, I don't buy it. He's pushing too hard. Like a used car salesman who just won't shut up about something stupid. Several people on this link voiced their opinion, and it all sounded sincere and genuine. I had no problem reading peoples preferences towards games I disliked, or ho-hummed about. But every...single...time I read a llloooonnnngggg quote from Genesim, I got irritated. And I don't even know the guy! It's not that I mind the long emails, or the preference of mk over sf. But he was soooo wrong, and he tried to sound soooo smart with things he claimed to be facts, but then never bothered to quote his sources.

He kept pushing for us to believe that he was only stating his opinion, but it felt like he was trying to force me to believe it. And when people started comparing the two games to chess and checkers, brilliant similarity. And therein lies the problem. It is a choice, a preference, an opinion, to enjoy mortal kombat over street fighter (any version, they all rock) but it is a fact that street fighter requires more skill... waaaayyyy more skill. That is not my personal opinion. Several people have added their proof; tournaments world wide constantly for sf but none for mk was my favorite point. (just like they don't have checkers tournaments... well, maybe in retirement homes they do...)

What I was writing for tonight, was to state my preference. I prefer SSF2. It is not my favorite game of all time, that is reserved for another. But the skill requirement is much higher for any/all sf games when compared to mk. Forget about graphics, and finishings, and glitches, and all the other nonsense. The skill is in sf.

And genesim, you sound educated, (not intelligent, just educated) so educate yourself on why you're so stubborn. :lame:

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2007, 02:25:23 am »
And The Best First Post award goes to........

 ;D

NO MORE!!

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #102 on: August 21, 2007, 03:04:35 am »
Yeah it really takes skill to roach a Guille lover when you have the Ken/Akuma/Ryu/Sagat(and even Dan) combination.

The funny thing is that noone tackled my points, and instead got into a bunch of namecalling to "prove" their side.

YET, I said all along that my OPINION was just that.    My points weren't exactly for a rocket scientist.   Can the same be said for my opposition?  Those people believe that because they think SFII is superior then it must be gospel.

Street Fighter II (the original) was slow.   Only several...several revisions later did they even attempt to get it right.

Yet with the fireball added...Chun Li getting one slow..then fast...or Zangief walking through fireballs..etc. didn't change the fact that many characters were unbalanced and 2 people at similar skills would absolutely smash the other when picking said inferior character.

If my posts are too long for you to read, then tackle anything I have said.   Start there.   Instead of name calling, how about actually taking apart some of my points?

Why is it that I am sounding "so smart" when I am merely stating facts that even a monkey could understand.     Go back to page one.    Go back to where it all began and see who had the rude behavior.

I stated a game I liked, and it turned into a MK trashing fest.   Not only are most of the statements completely foolish, but they are also unwarranted.    It is like if someone said they liked *fill in blank* and I proceeded to take apart everything that the poster liked about the game.

I defend my taste, and I am the bad guy.   Yet others actually downright start name calling and starting out by calling me CRAZY personally or stating that I don't know what I am talking about in regards to fighting games.

I find this offensive because I am a veteran at video games...and lastly fighting games.    I know SFII quite well, and would consider myself a diehard, yet I also know its faults and calling it "deep" is just a coverup for not knowing the nuances of why it got its ass kicked in sales to begin with.

I love the game, but some of the blind devotion to the game just cracks me up.    The fabled SubZero glitch(which again was eliminated by revision 5) is oh too much, yet the whole unbalance of several SFII characters are ok?

Are we seeing a trend here.   Just because it is a witch hunt doesn't make it correct.    Most people are followers, and you know from the news that the mob mentality is a sickness that plagues society.

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While I do not claim to be a techno savvy stud, nor a even a computer literate guy whatsoever, I did spend all my free time in the arcade like many young boys. So I will not try and fake it, and claim that I know a darn thing about "easter eggs" or "loop holes" or new editions with glitches and resolution.

And that is your problem.   But I personally have played that many hours and much more.    I practically dedicate my life to them.    I have friends fly out to check out my arcade and we literally spend days playing fighting games.   

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Several people have added their proof; tournaments world wide constantly for sf but none for mk was my favorite point. (just like they don't have checkers tournaments... well, maybe in retirement homes they do...)

Where do you or them get this crap?   Besides the number one tournament was in the game itself.  :laugh2:   Seriously, there have been MK tournaments and they no doubt still exist, but most of it is just a PR stunt.    Most of the best players out there don't even participate.   It is not a matter of real skill, because the competition is mostly playing for their own amusement.     That has never held water for me...then or now.

Now the online thing, that is another story.   A much bigger pool.   Ultimate MK3 recently was found to be the largest XBOX 360 download for online play.    There are some really great players out there, and instead of just looking into a small community, you might want to venture out in the world a bit.    The emperors clothes may not be what they seem.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #103 on: August 21, 2007, 06:37:51 am »
Is anybody else reminded of a certain someone and his favourite joysticks ?

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2007, 06:51:26 am »
Oh no its the STALKER....PART II... ch ch ch ch ha ha ha.

XXXXXXXXXXX

Alright, admin, I am done.   I hate to get this post deleted or get kicked off of here.

I would rather leave all this behind.   Think what you want guys, but I tried to have a civlized discussion, but apparently if you aren't part of SFII fan club then there is no chance for survival.

Hopefully all this will leave this thread and lets get on to better things.

We all have our likes and dislikes and it actually pains me to put down a good game.   In my own view it is like splitting hairs.     Depending on the kick I am on KOF, SFII, MK, Last Blade, Killer Instinct, the VS series...and even in the rarest times Street Fighter The Movie. :laugh2:

Eternal Champions I miss, but I am too lazy to seek out a good emulator or rig a sega genesis....yet.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #105 on: August 21, 2007, 07:01:16 am »
Oh no its the STALKER....PART II... ch ch ch ch ha ha ha.

XXXXXXXXXXX

 ;D

I'm more of a Michael Myers kinda guy though ....
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #106 on: August 21, 2007, 08:08:48 am »
Saint seems to be saying something...what could it be?

That Snoopy was above and beyond what Lassie could ever hope to be? Snoopy flew his own freaking doghouse against the Red Baron, all Lassie did was save people after they fell down wells.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #107 on: August 21, 2007, 08:33:32 am »
Not to mention that Snoopy sold a lot more toys than Lassie ever did...


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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2007, 08:56:27 am »
Oh no its the STALKER....PART II... ch ch ch ch ha ha ha.

XXXXXXXXXXX

 ;D

I'm more of a Michael Myers kinda guy though ....

You and your blind devotion to Michael Myers!  Freddy Krueger was WAY better and I can prove it!  Just don't ask me to provide said proof...  ;)

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2007, 09:11:32 am »
The 2 best for me are :

1- IK+   (Commodore 64, Atari XL , Atari St, Amiga ,  version on other machine i don't like)    the fact to have a 3rd player (computer controlled) in the loop was really a good idea!!

2-Soul Calibur 1  Dreamcast version.

Nothing really good for me between these 2.

Before IK+   few were good like :   Internationnal Karaté ,  The Way of Exploiding Fist and Barbarian.

But IK+ will stay the best of the best in my heart!  ;D


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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2007, 09:21:19 am »
You and your blind devotion to Michael Myers!  Freddy Krueger was WAY better and I can prove it!  Just don't ask me to provide said proof...  ;)

You forgot to say that I have no understanding of Nightmare On Elm Street and that I am ignorant and need to go back and read carefully.  ;D
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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2007, 09:31:37 am »
The funny thing is that noone tackled my points, and instead got into a bunch of namecalling to "prove" their side.
Here we go.

Street Fighter II (the original) was slow.   Only several...several revisions later did they even attempt to get it right.
Limitations of the hardware. It was 1991. As hardware got faster, the gameplay got faster. Same is said for MK in regards to graphics.

Why is it that I am sounding "so smart" when I am merely stating facts that even a monkey could understand.     Go back to page one.    Go back to where it all began and see who had the rude behavior.
Here you are calling someone a monkey/or/your saying they have the comprehension of a monkey.

is just a coverup for not knowing the nuances of why it got its ass kicked in sales to begin with.
You have yet to provide any proof of this. Are we supposed to take your word for it?

I love the game, but some of the blind devotion to the game just cracks me up.    The fabled SubZero glitch(which again was eliminated by revision 5) is oh too much, yet the whole unbalance of several SFII characters are ok?
The glitch was so bad, it caused a no-throw rule that still existed in MK3.


And that is your problem.   But I personally have played that many hours and much more.    I practically dedicate my life to them.    I have friends fly out to check out my arcade and we literally spend days playing fighting games.   
And therein lies the problem - you didn't develop social skills.

Now the online thing, that is another story.   A much bigger pool.   Ultimate MK3 recently was found to be the largest XBOX 360 download for online play.   
You know this is BS. Prove it. Quote a source.

There, I tackled your lame points. And I'm sure you'll counter with no facts and just insults.

Thats weak man.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #112 on: August 21, 2007, 09:41:13 am »
is just a coverup for not knowing the nuances of why it got its ass kicked in sales to begin with.
You have yet to provide any proof of this. Are we supposed to take your word for it?

One thing to consider is that I think dude is console-centric in his thinking (NTTIATWWT):

While I would certaintly never put down somebody's home project, I am just wondering why you didn't go with Mortal Kombat Gold on the Dreamcast.

It seems this is a superior version with more playable characters.   I have it running to my PC monitor and it looks great.   

Maybe there is something I don't know though because I didn't play it much on the arcade.   

He was wondering why someone wanted to run an MK4 board in a JAMMA cab.

I think it explains some of his beliefs and attitude about this 'little community'.



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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #113 on: August 21, 2007, 12:58:41 pm »
You and your blind devotion to Michael Myers!  Freddy Krueger was WAY better and I can prove it!  Just don't ask me to provide said proof...  ;)

You forgot to say that I have no understanding of Nightmare On Elm Street and that I am ignorant and need to go back and read carefully.  ;D


I feel as though I should actually rant about how you have no idea what was going through Wes Craven's mind when he wrote it, and how what we are seeing on our TVs isn't true to the original script...   ;D

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #114 on: August 21, 2007, 01:04:30 pm »
You and your blind devotion to Michael Myers!  Freddy Krueger was WAY better and I can prove it!  Just don't ask me to provide said proof...  ;)
You forgot to say that I have no understanding of Nightmare On Elm Street and that I am ignorant and need to go back and read carefully.  ;D
I feel as though I should actually rant about how you have no idea what was going through Wes Craven's mind when he wrote it, and how what we are seeing on our TVs isn't true to the original script...   ;D

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #115 on: August 21, 2007, 02:15:52 pm »
... but apparently if you aren't part of SFII fan club then there is no chance for survival.

Sweety, I hate to break this to you but that sentence alone proves that you know SF is/was more popular than MK. Lets not have to go back to your CPU thread now, that was brutal.

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #116 on: August 21, 2007, 02:19:51 pm »

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #117 on: August 21, 2007, 02:25:02 pm »
Time Killers - You could hack each other's limbs off!

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #118 on: August 21, 2007, 02:56:57 pm »
I stated a game I liked, and it turned into a MK trashing fest.   Not only are most of the statements completely foolish, but they are also unwarranted.    It is like if someone said they liked *fill in blank* and I proceeded to take apart everything that the poster liked about the game.

You honestly sound surprised at peoples' responses to most of your posts, so I'm going to try to help.  Perhaps in the future when you state you "like *fill in the blank*", you could try leaving out the arrogance, condescension, and animosity.  Unless of course, like me, you enjoy the spectacle that seems to come out of just about every thread you post to.

I feel as though I should actually rant about how you have no idea what was going through Wes Craven's mind when he wrote it, and how what we are seeing on our TVs isn't true to the original script...   ;D

I seriously spit out my coffee!  :laugh2:  :laugh2:  :laugh2:

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Re: Best Figher ever made???
« Reply #119 on: August 21, 2007, 07:04:17 pm »
This is way to much fun to pass up.   So many lies on here.   Lets tackle them one by one.

Warborg,

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You and your blind devotion to Michael Myers!  Freddy Krueger was WAY better and I can prove it!  Just don't ask me to provide said proof... 

When have I ever said that I can "prove it".   Alot of things are hard to prove because articles don't stay around the net, or they were never posted to begin with...i.e. Mortal Kombat Mortal Monday cross platform game sales.   

So your statement above would be clever if I actually said such a thing. ::)

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You forgot to say that I have no understanding of Nightmare On Elm Street and that I am ignorant and need to go back and read carefully.

I have never called anyone directly ignorant, and you obviously have a problem reading and comprehending or you would know this fact.   Now on the other hand there are many here who have directly called me names and of course you choose to ignore them....why because you are a follower.

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He was wondering why someone wanted to run an MK4 board in a JAMMA cab.

And what is wrong with that?    MK4 Gold seems to be a far superior game and it also looks better to boot because of the high resolution.    Geez stalker what else are you going to attack?

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Sweety, I hate to break this to you but that sentence alone proves that you know SF is/was more popular than MK. Lets not have to go back to your CPU thread now, that was brutal.

Ummm no, it is more like what I said before, it was in reference to this board and what guys believe around HERE.     You are so far behind, where do I start "sweety".     Go back and read.   

Shardian,

Rather be a so called "troll" then a follower.      Funny how the tactics are quite prevalent on the net when you don't agree with the majority.   No....I am not an android...must have new thoughts......

Ahofle,

What does this have to do with you.    I thought we ironed out a few things.    What galls me is how so many people have to follow where the discussion had nothing to do with them.    WHERE WAS THE ARROGANCE WHEN I POSTED MY GAME.

If anything I was having fun, till certain people came on and acted like compete tools because I picked MK over their tastes.   

By the way, it isn't "liking the spectacle", it is actually a calling out on the groupie syndrome that has plagued the board for a while.   

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