Computer won't boot with 2 hubs attached! Why not?

[rodneycrystal]

I have two 7 port D-Link Hubs attached to my motherboard each with its own usb port. I have 2 Ultrastik 360s, ICE-T trackball, Turbo Twist 2, 2 LCD Top Guns, 2 LED-Wizs, and a KeyWiz-ST attached accross both hubs. I can unplug the hubs and computer boots fine. I can unplug 1 hub and computer hesitates 10 or so seconds during POST then boots. I have tried different setups in the BIOS and no change. I know its definately not a driver issue since its during the POST phase. I have power adapters plugged in for both hubs and the power lights are on. The Motherboard is a ECS 945GCT-M with Core 2 Duo CPU, 1gig ram, 320gig HD, ArcadeVGA 2 PCI-E. The hubs are D-Link DUB-H7. Please help before I pull my hair out.

[Burn4Evr]

I've had an issue with a USB hard drive preventing my computer from booting, hanging at post for 20 mins and restarting on its own.
You said when both hubs are removed everything is fine, When one is removed its a little slow... was it always the same hub that you removed? or have you switched between the single hub you removed. If its the same result no matter which hub you remove, my suggestion would be to unplug everything from the hubs, and plug in each device on its own to the computer and seeing if its one of the devices (I'd start with the hubs and then move on to anything that you may have modified)
Hope this helps

[BobA]

I have two 7 port D-Link Hubs attached to my motherboard each with its own usb port.

Try connecting to only one usb port on your MB via its uplink port.  Connect the other hub to the first hub using the uplink port on it.

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[wonkalow]

if your BIOS has it, i'd try disabling "Try other boot devices" and network boot. Allthough I think im misunderstanding the problem, It sounds wierd for a hub to cause a pc to not reboot

[fatfingers]

[mode=idiot]

Any chance you're pulling too much power for your power supply?

[/mode=idiot]

[Neilyboy]

Like wonkalow said disable boot other devices in bios. that fixed my issue

Neil

[Green Giant]

Have you tried unplugging the lcd topguns.  Whenever I have mine plugged in on boot they screw everything up.  Sometimes it will boot with them in, but then they go screw up my device numbers so I only plug them in when I want to shoot something.

[SavannahLion]

Is it version 1.0 or 2.0 of the board?

Have you checked the ECS website for a BIOS update? Or the support area to see if it's mentioned there?

I'd like to check the manual but the site is mind boggingly slow. Bleh.

The ten second hesitate implies the BIOS is looking for something and not finding it.

[Jouster]

I'll bet one of them is a boy hub and the other is a girl hub...they have other things on their minds than starting your computer!

Jouster

[SavannahLion]

I'll bet one of them is a boy hub and the other is a girl hub...they have other things on their minds than starting your computer!

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[teknomedic]

With all that gear, the first thing I thought was your power supply... what size is that?... it's about the only spec you didn't report in your first post.

[SavannahLion]

With all that gear, the first thing I thought was your power supply... what size is that?... it's about the only spec you didn't report in your first post.

I have power adapters plugged in for both hubs and the power lights are on.

[teknomedic]

That noted... it's still important to post PSU specs for troubleshooting....

................the following was found on another website, maybe this will help, maybe not................

I had the exact same problem with my new hub, which requires external power supply (I had no problem with my old hub which was powered directly through the USB ports). I used to cut power supply to the hub whenever I turned on or restarted the PC, otherwise it would not boot past the POST screen. Only when Windows loaded could I enable the hub. Both the old and the new were USB 2.0 enabled.

I looked up my problem on the net and found some possible solutions. The one that worked for me was to change the USB 2.0 setting from HiSpeed to FullSpeed. Now all my USB devices are recognized by the BIOS and the system always boots properly.

However, I will also post here some more solutions that worked for other people.

1) Disable ACPI 2.0 support in BIOS.
2) Disable APIC support in BIOS.
3) Disable USB Legacy support in BIOS.
4) Make sure that the boot sequence in BIOS does not include and USB devices.
5) Insert an additional USB controller in the form of PCI card and connect the hub (or any other USB device which causes problems) to this card’s ports.
6) Try various combinations of input devices:
a) PS2 keyboard / PS2 mouse
b) PS2 keyboard / USB mouse
c) USB keyboard / PS2 mouse
d) USB keyboard / USB mouse

Right now my working BIOS settings are:

PS2 mouse support : disabled
ACPI 2.0 support : yes
ACPI APIC support : enabled
USB function : enabled
Legacy USB support : enabled
USB 2.0 controller mode : Full Speed