Author Topic: Dual monitor/ touch screen jukebox- Youtube video of LEDWiz in action! (Read 44465 times)

leapinlew · « **Reply #80 on:** October 01, 2007, 06:03:38 pm »

Looking sweet. I think between you and psychotech, I'm getting motivated to start my jukebox. I was going to wait till spring, but....

draginit · « **Reply #81 on:** October 01, 2007, 11:07:09 pm »

MAN! how did i miss this thread. very nice indeed!. your light show has got me thinking as im currently remodeling my JB. hmmm.
-anyways xtreme awsome build, theres just one word for this JB,....swasome!. (sweet n awsome)

mccoy178 · « **Reply #82 on:** October 20, 2007, 01:41:44 am »

Minor update. As I like to think to myself,"One small step for the rest of BYOAC, one giant leap for mccoy178."

Anyways, I finished putting the putty on the touchscreen housing tonight. (Last night I broke the touchscreen overlay in half. I'm still crying inside.) On other news, I gutted the juke again to finish construction holes and wire everything properly. In doing so, I decided to finish a small task that was driving me crazy. The power button on the 22" monitor was always pressed in since it was smushed against the front glass. So, here is a little pictorial on how I fixed that.

Here was the initial problem. The button was constantly pushed in by the plexi:

Here's what I saw with the back removed. It looked promising:

I looked at the back and tried to figure out what to do:

I ended up flipping the power button over, cutting off the edge so it would fit and drilling a new hole. I decided to just flip it because it had a ground on it that touched the lcd directly, and I didn't want to mess with that:

I decided that asthetics weren't important in this application, so I just drilled out a hole big enough for my finger:

And here is what it looks like reinstalled to the face of the jukebox:

mccoy178 · « **Reply #83 on:** October 25, 2007, 04:56:01 am »

Well, I got the better of myself this past week. I had planned on making the enclosure for the touchscreen a wooden box. I spent probably 10 hours on that from the start of it. Well, I was showing the project to a buddy and he pointed out that it didn't look right with the rest of the jukebox. That started my motivation for something different. Then, as an omen, I was working on a handrail and I knocked the box off of its shelf as the putty on it was drying. As I glued the three chunks back together, I decided I wasn't happy with it. So, I went to the plastic store in Columbus where I have bought my other plastic in the past, and picked out some scraps. To keep a long story long, I did not document the making of the outside edge and the inside cutting of the monitor, so to make up for that, I made a full tutorial on how I countersunk the grill in the back piece and a couple pics of how I countersunk the monitor on the front piece.

I would like to start off with saying; if you have the funds, pick up a 1hp hand router, it is a great tool. I wish I woulda had this for my previous projects, as it has made my life much easier. It has the strength to get the job done, but not too much to rip it out of my hands. I also used a plunge router on this project:

I first sized up the vent. It was a speaker grill from a dynamo cabinet I had awhile back:

I squared up the grill and traced it onto the paper. I next drew up what to cut out, route out, and where to drill the holes. I free handed the holes with the hand router:

Here is a pic of the walnut I used for a guide board. I used a couple 3" clamps that worked great:

Here is the hole cut out:

Here is the edge countersunk:

Here are some pics of the finished product. I was surprised to find out the plexi was actually frosted on one side. Kind of a neat bonus for the back:

For the front, I used 1/2" frosted plexi for the front. I don't have many pics for the construction of this, I do have the following:

Here is a pic of the 1/2" rabbiting tool I used to cut out the countersink. Before I did that, I put a 1/4" roundover on the front side. Can't wait to polish that up!

Here are some random pics of the front with the monitor sitting in it. Yes, everything is in the kitchen still.

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Well, this is easily the longest reply I've ever made. I'm open to ideas on how to light this thing. Actually, I would appreciate ideas.

mountain · « **Reply #84 on:** October 25, 2007, 06:56:49 am »

Wow, that looks great. 1/2" and 3/4" plexi is fun to work with for sure.

Is that bezel frosted? What type of effect are you looking for? We use to etch logos and images on plexi and light it up with a strip of neon. To control the light we would tape of the neon tube leaving just a strip of it exposed shining a thin, wide beam across the surface which would light up the etched area.

javeryh · « **Reply #85 on:** October 25, 2007, 09:27:46 am »

Very cool. Where are you guys getting the thick frosted/colored plexi?

mccoy178 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:04:29 am »

Mountain, I don't know what effect I'm looking for yet. My brain hasn't gotten that far.

javeryh, I picked up that material at a plastics specialty store in their scraps section. On the paper in big letters it said, "Tony, STOP! Wrong side!" and had a nice 3/8" rabbit all the way around it. I just had to use a flush trim bit to get that off and it was good as new.

Kaytrim · « **Reply #87 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:10:13 am »

You could get some cool lighting effects with some LEDs in the bottom of that plexi. Maybe use the RGB LEDs and LEDWiz from GroovyGameGear.

Knievel · « **Reply #88 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:16:11 am »

Very cool. Never thought of making a bezel out of plexi, and I've never seen the frosted stuff before.
That would be great for door inserts on kitchen cabinets, etc.

As for lighting it, maybe some LED strips from behind?
If you light from the bottom the area above the monitor won't get lit.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #89 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:40:37 pm »

Okay, I've decided to use aluminum diamond plating behind the speakers. One side is done and a full pictorial should be out tonight or tomorrow night at the latest.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #90 on:** October 30, 2007, 01:56:05 am »

Well, no pictorial tonight, but here are some pics. I really wasn't impressed with the old stuff that was in there. It did clean up nice, but it was flimsy and you can see how it wavered. Here are a few different looks with both the old and the new installed and some closeups of the new. So, what do you guys think?

Knievel · « **Reply #91 on:** October 30, 2007, 10:18:17 am »

HEAVY! Big improvement.

I suggest you run some EL wire or something similar around the inside of those enclosures.
Maybe attach it to the back of the grilles so you don't see the wire, just a nice blue glow on the diamond plate.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #92 on:** October 30, 2007, 12:43:43 pm »

I will most certainly look into the possibilities!

rackoon · « **Reply #93 on:** October 30, 2007, 05:07:33 pm »

the diamond plate adds a lot of class. GOOD JOB! Very impressive.

Heck now I want to do one, but my wife would divorce me if I don't finish my arcade cab first.

theCoder · « **Reply #94 on:** October 31, 2007, 01:17:52 am »

As Knievel mentioned, light from LED's on the bottom probably will not make it all the way around the top rounds of the bezel. If the top were flat, and the corners radius are large, it would work better. You can always wire up 5 to 10 LED's and tape them against the bottom to see. If that doesn't work you might consider projecting light from the back. Perhaps a 2 inch shelf along the back, with a row of LED's projecting up.

In the speaker pockets, you could also use LED rope or even Christmas tree (or Halloween) lights stapled against the front surface, pointing in.

Looks cool.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #95 on:** October 31, 2007, 01:23:45 am »

NIVO gave me the idea of having musical notes etched in the back and lighting those with some rgb's. I don't know if that is possible, so I was thinking about making three musical notes on either side of the touchscreen, placing them inside and using Randy's rgb's and hooking them up to the Ledwiz's. I'm also considering making the sides of the touchscreen enclosure out of diamond plating to tie it in with the rest of the juke. In light of Allroys update to his thread, I'm also investigating the idea of making the musical notes rotate in place inside the enclosure. Suggestions?

mccoy178 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 31, 2007, 05:11:19 am »

Okay, so here is the pictorial on how I cut the diamond plating. It took 3 hours from start to finish, and an additional hour putting everything back together. (I took my time on that part). Here are my tools: Marker, double sided tape, painters tape, a jigsaw, a grinder, a pair of shop glasses, and a drill press. I used metal blades in the jigsaw. Here are a few pics of the tools:

Okay, so first thing I did was draw on the old material the outline of the speakers and light organs. This was to ensure I didn't cut outside my boundaries. I then used the old material as a template for the aluminum:

Here is what the speaker housing looked like blank:

Here is the aluminum sheet. I picked this up at Lowe's, but if you can find any metal company around, I would go there. I could've bought a 4'x12' sheet for what I paid for this 2'x4' at Lowe's.

I used painters tape on the front, as it was suggested to keep the burrs down. I'll tell you what it was really handy for, was that it kept the aluminum off the blade so I was able to use one blade for that whole side. When I cut the first side, I went through 6 because of aluminum melting and gumming up the blades.

So once I had it traced, I cut out the outside edge of the piece. I then used the grinder to fine tune the edges so it fit perfect. After that, I drilled pilot holes on the inside so I could get the jigsaw in there:

Here is the completely cut piece. That painters tape was a miracle worker for me. Saved a ton of stress I went through with the first piece:

Here are some final pics from a couple different setups. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have on this. I've built a few machines, and this stuff was very new and I had to google and ask Knievel for some advice before I decided to do it:

leapinlew · « **Reply #97 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:07:24 am »

Jigsaw eh? Damn, I didn't know that would work. Everytime I've cut metal with a jigsaw, it wasn't very good results.

Nice work.

Franco · « **Reply #98 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:42:39 am »

Aweeeeesome build this

Ive managed to miss it so far up to now some how

Wish I had seen the work along the way but ive just had a good long read of the thread and your doing some awesome work! Keep it up!

mccoy178 · « **Reply #99 on:** October 31, 2007, 11:04:08 am »

Thanks fellas. I thought the amateur pictorial would be good for us weekend hobbyist, (or 5am Tuesday night hobbyist), because I as well didn't think a jigsaw would remotely work as well as it did. Now that I do, it opens many doors for using metal on various projects.

Jetson · « **Reply #100 on:** October 31, 2007, 11:28:27 am »

Awesome job!!! Can't wait to see the finished result.

NIVO · « **Reply #101 on:** October 31, 2007, 08:15:05 pm »

metal rules(yep im biased)

mountain · « **Reply #102 on:** October 31, 2007, 09:47:46 pm »

Yup, I built some 1/8" diamond plate skid plates for my 4-wheeler a few years ago with a jig saw (and aluminum rivets)

Worked well. Great job!

Go Bucks!!

mccoy178 · « **Reply #103 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:18:40 am »

Tonight I made the bottom plating for the subwoofer area. I'm either getting much better at my work, or I was extremely lucky to get all four holes perfect with just measurements. I do believe a large amount of luck is involved. I typically have a hole an inch off any other time I try something like this. Anyways, here are some pics:

mccoy178 · « **Reply #104 on:** November 01, 2007, 06:23:06 am »

Here is what I started with:

Here is after painting and was intended to be the final product:

Here is the final product:

shardian · « **Reply #105 on:** November 01, 2007, 10:55:38 am »

The diamond plate has added a whole new level of bling to the project. Seeing it behind the speaker grill just screams "professional job".

billf · « **Reply #106 on:** November 01, 2007, 10:58:25 am »

Yeah, I have to concur - excellent looking job.

Barry Barcrest · « **Reply #107 on:** November 01, 2007, 10:45:31 pm »

Looking awsome dude... Hopefully i can start on mine next week, however it will not be anywhere near the level of your beast.

theCoder · « **Reply #108 on:** November 02, 2007, 09:38:55 am »

Quote from: mccoy178 on November 01, 2007, 06:18:40 am

...I'm either getting much better at my work, or I was extremely lucky to get all four holes perfect with just measurements. I do believe a large amount of luck is involved. I typically have a hole an inch off any other time I try something like this.

It might have something to do with the amount of time and money you have invested. I tend to pay more attention and measure 3 times when there is a lot on the line.

When cutting aluminum, the trick is to find a good speed. Too slow and you do more rubbing than cutting, melting the chips. Too fast and you break the blade. There is definitely a sweet spot.

Glad to hear you've got a new media to work with. Very classy.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #109 on:** November 06, 2007, 01:14:49 am »

Okay, so I've been working on something neat for the front of the jukebox and kind of put the touchscreen box on the backburner since I couldn't make my mind up. Well, I got an idea while doing the diamond plating for the speakers that I wanted to use on the box. I just didn't know how I could make it look right. So, I thought about it for a few days and I decided to just do it. I used a metal break to cut the aluminum and another metal tool to bend it into a half circle. From there I just busted out the router again and went to town. Without further ado, I present another small step in the production of the jukebox.

I think this will really help tie the plexi in with the rest of the project, as it was sticking out, and not in a good way in my opinion.

Donkey_Kong · « **Reply #110 on:** November 06, 2007, 09:16:28 am »

Thanks for the great documentation of the project. I'm sure you are inspiring many to take on a jukebox project (myself being one of them). I kept sending links to Melissa last night showing her your progress and she thinks it is very cool as well. That bezel you have made is very innovative, to say the least. This jukebox is one for the ages and will be hard to top.

Anyway, keep up the push. Seems like there is light at the end of the tunnel now.

I know Sam, the Tuesday night hobbiest has got to be smiling.

unclet · « **Reply #111 on:** November 06, 2007, 02:09:09 pm »

You can find Luminglas plates which are 6" and have the same lightning effect.

Here is a picture of one...

leapinlew · « **Reply #112 on:** November 06, 2007, 04:22:25 pm »

unbelievable!

Awesome work dude.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #113 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:25:15 am »

Tonight I took the template piece, (the original front that I had broken), and began the testing phase of lighting and gluing. Here are some pics of the real box sitting loose in its home and then the template with how I did it and just a single led shining from the back. I plan on using a completely different method to light it, but this at least gave me an idea of how it was going to look.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #114 on:** November 07, 2007, 01:31:01 am »

Thought I would also mention that the front face is glazed, causing the blurryness in the pics above. In person, the notes are crystal clear.

theCoder · « **Reply #115 on:** November 07, 2007, 09:08:07 am »

With most of the Plexiglas painted, you have more LED mounting options. How bright is in daylight?

Looks nice.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #116 on:** November 07, 2007, 11:17:30 am »

It's nice in the daylight. My plan is to take more of the 1/2" frosted, cut 2"x2" squares, paint all sides but the front black, mount an rgb to the bottom, and use those to light each individual note. The rgb's will be hooked into the LEDWiz's to work in conjunction with the other rgb's on the juke. When everything is off, the entire box should look black.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #117 on:** November 09, 2007, 10:13:15 pm »

Well, I'm still working out some details on the lighting things, so I decided to focus some attention on the final cabinet parts. I ordered a plate and connections for the karaoke microphones and the exterior usb and firewire ports. I ordered it from http://www.datapro.net/. I plan on putting this plate inside the coindrop area. I didn't know what I was going to do with that area, but I think it will be neat to have the microphones in there also. I'm going to now research a "protected" power button to mount right above it. I love this thing.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #118 on:** November 16, 2007, 10:25:37 pm »

Long overdue update.
1. I painted the front face of the monitor housing. I was going to paint it on the inside, but I couldn't figure out how to get everything mounted without using the inside of the front. I used painters tape, measured everything out, and cut the notes out with an exacto knife. I was pretty happy with everything. I also chose metallic silver over the black. Chicks dig it.

After a couple days, I finally figured out how I could mount the monitor. The acrylic adhesive is ridiculously strong as I guess it melts the two pieces together. So, since I couldn't thread anything into the plexi, I used cam bolts, similar to what is in your typical cheap furniture, and it worked out great. I made a little jig on my drill press and just went to town. I also made the standoffs for the back.

Today, I received the plate for the usb hookups and the microphones. The plate was missing one of the 1/4" holes, so while I await the replacement, I used the one they sent to get it installed. Here is a pretty self explanatory pictorial.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #119 on:** November 18, 2007, 02:42:06 am »

I was able to get the sides adhered to the front and drilled the holes in the back of the monitor box. Here's just a couple random pics.


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Author Topic: Dual monitor/ touch screen jukebox- Youtube video of LEDWiz in action! (Read 44465 times)

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