Author Topic: YET ! more t-molding problem... (Read 2855 times)

SNAAAKE · « **on:** April 18, 2003, 12:05:31 am »

Looked everywhere...couldn't find 1/16" slotting bit...
Now my simple question is how bad could it be if I used 1/8" on 5/8" ply wood?
I found 1/8" but didn't buy(not sure).
Also,I searched the board for online souces and didnt find any link.
Anyone have any link to 1/16 slotting bit?
Cheap maybe?
Anyone wants to lend me their router bit(I wanna buy it though)?
thanks for any suggestion in advance.

rampy · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:14:23 am »

mlcs has 'em for 16 bucks...
that's where I got mine online, and it worked great...

It cut the t-molding slot so perfectly I could see into the FUTURE!

rampy (link coming)

I got your link *right here*

Brax · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2003, 01:40:47 am »

Alternatively, a 1/8" slot in 5/8" mdf works fine. I did it on mine and you could beat on it all day and it would be fine. Fill it up with hot glue and it sets up hard as a rock.

shmokes · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2003, 01:53:42 am »

www.routerbits.com

Good prices and a bunch of slotting cutters. I haven't checked for your particular size, but I recommend them.

RandyT · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2003, 01:57:23 am »

Quote from: SNAAAKE on April 18, 2003, 12:05:31 am

Looked everywhere...couldn't find 1/16" slotting bit...

Try Woodworkers Warehouse. Lots of stores local to me, maybe to you too.

I bought my 1/16" slot cutter there and it seems to work well.

I think it was less than $15 total for the arbor and the blade, but they might have had a sale going when I bought it.

RandyT

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2003, 02:03:32 am »

Quote from: RandyT on April 18, 2003, 01:57:23 am

Quote from: SNAAAKE on April 18, 2003, 12:05:31 am

Looked everywhere...couldn't find 1/16" slotting bit...

Try Woodworkers Warehouse. Lots of stores local to me, maybe to you too.

I bought my 1/16" slot cutter there and it seems to work well.

I think it was less than $15 total for the arbor and the blade, but they might have had a sale going when I bought it.

RandyT

Where exactly are you located?
got any address or phone # of the place you got it from?
I might get the 1/8" but I can't afford to screw anything up..still not sure about Brax giving me advice.sounds fishy...(J/K).
hmmm..okay again just kidding !

RandyT · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2003, 02:08:58 am »

Quote from: SNAAAKE on April 18, 2003, 02:03:32 am

Where exactly are you located?

Central NY (upstate).

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2003, 02:12:53 am »

Quote from: RandyT on April 18, 2003, 02:08:58 am

Quote from: SNAAAKE on April 18, 2003, 02:03:32 am
Where exactly are you located?

Central NY (upstate).

I see...I am in the city so no borrowing.
It looks like I will get the 1/8" then some hot glue...
Brax,better be right about this.
Of course I will post the result in case anyone else having trouble locating the right size bit.

Infrasonic · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2003, 03:04:38 am »

I paid over $40 dollars for (I think) a 3/32 bit and a separate arbor both Vipers, after I bought it I was able to find a lot of cheaper slot cutters on the web. Some were complete units that didn't require a separate arbor. My only regret is that my slot cutter will stop at about 1/2 inch deep instead of the optimal 3/8 inches deep.

A 1/8 inch bit may not retain the t-moulding properly. Also, I just noticed that the hardware store where I get my t-moulding switched from 13/16 to 3/4, prompting me to be more accurate aligning the router, so I would suggest testing out some 1 inch sections of t-moulding on scrap wood before slotting, so that you can fine tune your router.

Brax · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2003, 07:25:55 am »

Quote

It looks like I will get the 1/8" then some hot glue...
Brax,better be right about this.

Of course I'm right! I'm ME!!

(Obligatory Snaaake rolly eyes)
I can give you good advice because I'm a bigger person than you!!

If you're worried, grab a piece of scrap 5/8 and a chunk of t-molding and try it out. The hot glue fills up the whole slot. I would bet it's actually stronger with the hot glue than a 1/16" slot with none. When you apply your glue don't add more than about a foot at a time. Do a foot, press down your T-molding, hold it for a few seconds (especially on curves) then lift it up to add another foot of glue.... (don't worry about getting right beside the last batch of glue. The tongue of the t-molding prevents you from getting right beside it. As long as you start your glue an inch away from the last batch, it'll be fine.

Once you're done, it'll look amazing! .......and be strong! Even for adolecents! (Boy this is fun teasing Snaake!) hehe

.......and when you're done all you have to say is I was right and you were wrong for doubting me! ha!

rampy · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2003, 09:13:06 am »

1/8" in slot will work with hot glue... but why half arse it?

Granted if you have an existing cabinet and the t-molding groove has been worn out hot glue is a pretty good solution...

But if you have the opportunity to buy the right tool/part why mess around with multiple steps and glue.

Rampy

PS Note: I used hot glue for the t-molding on my converted taito cabinet... but on my control panel retrofit portion of my project, I used the 16 dollar bit from MLC (which took all of 2 days to reach me) and I preferred installing the t-molding where friction/tension keeps it in via using the correct bit for my t-molding groove....

I liked the correct thickness bit better, partially due to what happened if I made a mistake with the glue gun approach I was pretty much stuck (ha! get it... glue... stuck...!?)

PSS Snaaake, if you can't find something in NY City... you might not be looking hard enough =P

(edit for some clarification/grammer)

RandyT · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2003, 10:34:47 am »

I have to agree with Rampy on this one. If you have an opportunity to do it correctly, then why not?

There's a Woodworkers Warehouse in Flushing. You anywhere near there?

http://www.woodworkerswarehouse.com/maps/ny_flushinghtm.htm

RandyT

Auntie MAME · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2003, 11:27:02 am »

I used the MLC 5/64 bit ($16) with Happ t-molding. It fit great. I used a rubber mallet to seat it. Looks great, fits tight, and NO glue.

shmokes · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2003, 01:20:28 pm »

Is there some bit of message board etiquette I'm not aware of. I keep seeing people justify their edits, such as Rampy saying that his edit was for grammer/clarification. Are edits looked down on?

CitznFish · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2003, 03:55:59 pm »

edit: I don't think so.....

rampy · « **Reply #15 on:** April 20, 2003, 05:19:21 pm »

Quote from: shmokes on April 20, 2003, 01:20:28 pm

Is there some bit of message board etiquette I'm not aware of. I keep seeing people justify their edits, such as Rampy saying that his edit was for grammer/clarification. Are edits looked down on?

There's nothing wrong with edits. It's probably encouraged, rather than creating multiple posts.

It's a habit I picked up from others on this board (denoting my edits )....

It's nice to do because your changing the content of what people further down the line were commenting on. *Shrug*... (sometimes taking away a NOT or adding a NOT change the whole meaning of a thread, and if one makes that change it's nice to know so that the rest of the thread can make sense)

I like to also denote my edits as people sometimes don't re-read response (they only read the bottom/newest post.. not check for changes)...

It must be the old project manager in me trying to document the changes =P

*Shrug* it's a little anal, it's not totally necessary, but i like to see it/do it...

rampy

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #16 on:** April 20, 2003, 07:39:31 pm »

Quote from: RandyT on April 20, 2003, 10:34:47 am

I have to agree with Rampy on this one. If you have an opportunity to do it correctly, then why not?

There's a Woodworkers Warehouse in Flushing. You anywhere near there?

http://www.woodworkerswarehouse.com/maps/ny_flushinghtm.htm

RandyT

Well flusing is REALLY far..its like atleast over 2 hour train ride(could be more).
I spend the day looking for bits and no dice so bought a 1/8" and about to do some tests on 5/8" wood.
I dont mind the hot glue as long it works..whatever.

Thanks for help though.You know..looking for the link to any place near me...very nice of you Randy.

In case things turn very ugly or something then I could always go to Flusing and get the right bit.
I looked everywhere around me...no one even carries router bits(except home depot).

Vampyre · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2003, 07:43:38 pm »

I had a storeman tell me they didnt make 1/16" slot cutters on wednesday. I had to pratically force him to look in his cataloge to see if they did. Surprise suprise they do! $28aud

VMJ Team · « **Reply #18 on:** April 20, 2003, 09:02:20 pm »

I got my 1/16" slot-cutters from www.woodbits.com. Fast delivery service (within 3 days)....I person had to go with the 1/8" bit and hot glue route...try to avoid it if you can.

shmokes · « **Reply #19 on:** April 20, 2003, 10:34:47 pm »

I'm going to go out on a limb, Snake, and assume that you have no way of buying things online. Otherwise I don't know why you're having trouble finding the correct bit.

SNAAAKE · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2003, 11:12:34 pm »

Quote from: shmokes on April 20, 2003, 10:34:47 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb, Snake, and assume that you have no way of buying things online. Otherwise I don't know why you're having trouble finding the correct bit.

no..nothing like that.

I dont feel like waiting thats all...waiting sucks big time..I wanna build my cabinet in 3 days..LOL !
No seriouslly..I only worked 2 days and everything is ready to put together except I need the slots cut.I just cut the grooves like an hour ago(scraps) and things should work out with 1/8 bit.
On 5/8" wood.
However I still recomend 1/16".Man,gotta hotglue the whole thing..sigh...

(yeah I guess $:-\$ ).


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