Am I the only one amused by Michael Vick?

[tommy]

Can you honestly tell me that you know for a FACT that Vick killed dogs. Isn't it at all possible that the other3 guys did it instead?

Not that he killed them, not yet, as that hasn't been proven in court. 

That's all i wanted to get out of you. So calling him scumbag and worthless is a bit too early now, isn't it.

[ChadTower]

I consider people who train dogs for fighting and run a gambling ring on the fights to be scumbags and worthless.  He doesn't have to have actually killed any dogs with his own hands to be those things.

[tommy]

I just wanted to get people thinking and have actual facts before making stupid comments about vick. We all know this would be a horrible crime if he or anyone killed these animals, but for some of us to just sit here and type comments going on our gut feeling is not cool to me.

I would think we all would want to get to the bottom of the real issue if it were you or me on that hot seat and not judge until you had your say. Things are not always how they seem sometimes. Then again, maybe they are.

[ChadTower]

We are public opinion.  We're not a court of law.

[shardian]

I just wanted to get people thinking and have actual facts before making stupid comments about vick. We all know this would be a horrible crime if he or anyone killed these animals, but for some of us to just sit here and type comments going on our gut feeling is not cool to me.

I would think we all would want to get to the bottom of the real issue if it were you or me on that hot seat and not judge until you had your say. Things are not always how they seem sometimes. Then again, maybe they are.

Dude, you have made my morning brighter with your funny posts. Thank you.
There is only one person here ignoring the facts and going on gut feeling. Whether he personally killed the dogs is irrelevant. He has admitted to being complicit in the killings.

[ChadTower]

tommy's just hoping that when he gets out the Giants will sign him.  They have to do something - they have crap for QBs.

[tommy]

tommy's just hoping that when he gets out the Giants will sign him.  They have to do something - they have crap for QBs.

I don't want that dog murderer on our team. 

[RTSDaddy2]

So you must have heard what I heard - that the judge asked Vick if he was honestly guilty of the charges against him and he said "Yes sir."  What more do we need?

[tommy]

Are you kidding me? He has to say it to take the deal, no matter what. If he said i'm innocent he would have 3 guys ready to bury him in court. Surly you guys can understand that part.

[shardian]

Are you kidding me? He has to say it to take the deal, no matter what. If he said i'm innocent he would have 3 guys ready to bury him in court. Surly you guys can understand that part.

I don't think it is their words that would hurt Vick. More likely the collective cell-phone pics/ vids and regular camera pics/vids of all of their events and dealings that they would be supplying the prosecution.

That is what has always baffled me about Vick. He walks into these dog fights with his posse. everyone there knows who he is, and everyone in the place has a camera phone aimed at him. I wonder if that thought ever crossed his mind.

[ChadTower]

He didn't care, he thought he was above consequences.  That is pretty clear.  He can't be that stupid to think no one would ever tell.

[Dartful Dodger]

tommy's just hoping that when he gets out the Giants will sign him.  They have to do something - they have crap for QBs.

I don't want that dog murderer on our team. 

Thanks to last week’s storms the first day for my fantasy football league was delayed a week, hopefully these charges against Vick get swept under the rug before Saturday.

[Sir Auros]

Tommy, do you think OJ is after the "real" killer?

I'll admit that my mind was made up on Vick as soon as I heard the charges, but then I knew about his career at Tech and already knew he was a huge piece of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

[FrizzleFried]

Dudes ALMOST as bad as that Eli Manning P.O.S....

 

PS: Go STEELERS!

[DrewKaree]

"want to get people thinking"

What a crock.

Facts have been given to you.  Facts that only add to the guilt of Vick if he's also guilty of killing the dogs.

You continually come back to "did they prove he killed blah blah blah".  In light of the other facts that you've been given, it is now irrelevant.

He's a scumbag.  Adding on additional things if he's proven guilty only makes him "scumbag-ier".  Add "-est" or "-ier" for every additional item he's guilty of.

You're continuing to overlook the facts that HAVE been thrown in your face, choosing to focus on only what you desire to have proven.  That's your choice, but Vick is a scumbag for the myriad of things he's done up to and including this day.

You continuing to question your thin slice of his world you're concerned about doesn't change the fact that he's a scumbag for what has been factually proven thus far.

Of all the people here, I'd think you, tommy, as an owner of a pit bull, would be crying the loudest to dump this scumbag breeder/fight club operator/liar into the depths of the worst prison they could find.

The thinking has been done.  The facts have been given to you by others in this thread.  When are you going to stop playing "dress-up" and acknowledge that Vick is a scumbag for what's already been factually proven, and that adding the OTHER crap you're pretending you're holding out hope for being proven or disproven?

You've been smacked in the face with facts.  Let the rest of us know why you need ADDITIONAL facts to judge Vick a scumbag, instead of playing this idiotic game of "well they didn't prove this or that!"

He's a scumbag for what's been factually proven, AND admitted to - two separate things you're whining for.  Time to own up to what you're really hoping for, why, and what it'll take for you to FINALLY acknowledge and state that Vick is a scumbag.

[Zero_Hour]

PS: Go STEELERS!

 

[geomartin]

Well, everything is resolved now.  Michael Vick announced that he has found Jesus and is ready to put this behind him.

[boykster]

Well, everything is resolved now.  Michael Vick announced that he has found Jesus and is ready to put this behind him.

I didn't even know that Jesus was lost 

[RTSDaddy2]

Personally I don't think it's our place to judge that part of Vick's statement, that he found God.  Perhaps he has; he's certainly going to need spiritual guideance where he's going- I have my own personal opinion of it, but I'm not going to share it here.

What I'd like to know is that if seeing Moses come down from the mountain with two more tablets that said "Vick is Guilty", if the Vick supoprters on here have finally admitted it to themselves yet.  God, and I thought I had on thick rose-colored glasses during the Benoit investigation.  Tommy man, no offense, but you've got me beat in idol worship - at least I was able to get to a point where I realized Benoit did it.  You really need to break those glasses regarding  your sports heros.  They are fallible - Vick is ONLY one of the first few that has fallen.

[Justin Z]

Well, everything is resolved now.  Michael Vick announced that he has found Jesus and is ready to put this behind him.

I didn't even know that Jesus was lost 

He found him in the corner of the endzone . . .  Touchdown!

[ChadTower]

He found him in the corner of the endzone . . .  overthrew him by about 5 yards, ball into the stands!

fixt

[FrizzleFried]

He found him in the corner of the endzone . . .  overthrew him by about 5 yards, ball into the stands!

fixt

No Chad...that is ELI doin' the over throwin' man!

That kid's pretty bad.  Not anything like his brother.

[Justin Z]

He found him in the corner of the endzone . . .  overthrew him by about 5 yards, ball into the stands!

fixt

Heh well played.

[DrewKaree]

Personally I don't think it's our place to judge that part of Vick's statement, that he found God.  Perhaps he has; he's certainly going to need spiritual guideance where he's going- I have my own personal opinion of it, but I'm not going to share it here.

No reason I should start being tight-lipped about my opinion now! 

I find absolutely no problem with judging Vick's statement, because I listened to his crap statement.  Tommy NEEDS to listen to it, so he can stop hoping people won't think Vick is a scumbag, and get on to helping O.J. find "the real killer" (psst.....check his mirror )

Listen to the entire crap festival here

I am willing to acknowledge Vick is "owning up" to his actions.  I am NOT willing to acknowledge Vick "found jaey-susss" because of his exact words - it's a transparent attempt to garner sympathy from people who wouldn't otherwise make time to piss on him if he were on fire.  My exact reason I believe he's a bald-faced liar:

I understand it's important as far as what you say or how you say things......through this situation I found Jesus, and axed (sic) him for forgiveness and turned my life over to God.   I think that's the right thing to do as of right now

In my mind, he just admitted he understands that he needs to take whatever means available to get people to come to his side, and is willing to do whatever that entails, up to and including insincere and/or dishonest means.

Just when I thought he'd reached rock bottom, he broke out the backhoe and said "hold my beer and watch THIS!"

 

[FrizzleFried]

Did I mention just how bad Eli Manning is?   

Oh yeah...and Vick is a scum bag.