Perferred Paint?

[dndcollect]

I am painting my cab this weekend and was wondering if anyone recomends a certain kind of spray paint, etc?

[javeryh]

I used Behr (Disney) to paint mine.  I used a high-quality foam roller and it's coming out pretty nice so far.  People will tell you to go with something a little pricier like Sherwin-Williams or something but I haven't had any problems with it.  I can't speak to spray paint though.

[ChadTower]

Just for a bit more data, I've used Behr in my house with horrible results, and have used Sherwin Williams with excellent results, same tools and methods.   

I wouldn't paint a cab with canned spray paint.  Stenciling, maybe, but never a base coat. 

[dndcollect]

how do you go about getting around the difficult spots?

[Chris G]

with a brush?

[shardian]

What exactly do you mean by "difficult spot"?

[suits00]

i used the cheapest spary paint, a $1.00 a can. Truly i can't tell the difference between my cabinet and other cabinets that i have seen. I didn't prime or anything.

[Kaytrim]

What exactly do you mean by "difficult spot"?

Probably inside corners where a roller may not fit properly or small spaces.  I have a 3" square end and a 4" bull nosed end high density foam rollers that I should be able to start using this weekend.  I'll let you know how it goes.  One thing that everyone says and I understand why is to lightly sand between coats of paint.  This goes for both primer and color coats.  If you don't sand then the new coat will not adhere properly to the previous coat.

TTFN
Kaytrim

[javeryh]

Just for a bit more data, I've used Behr in my house with horrible results, and have used Sherwin Williams with excellent results, same tools and methods.   

I wouldn't paint a cab with canned spray paint.  Stenciling, maybe, but never a base coat. 

For even more data and to be fair, I've never used Sherwin-Williams so I really can't compare the Behr paint jobs to anything... maybe everything in my house looks horrible and I just don't know it!

[Chris G]

How can anything Disney be bad?  It's the happiest place on earth!

[ChadTower]

For even more data and to be fair, I've never used Sherwin-Williams so I really can't compare the Behr paint jobs to anything... maybe everything in my house looks horrible and I just don't know it!

Well, in the end, it didn't look horrible... it just took Behr 7 painful coats, on long and winding trim, to get full coverage.  After 4 coats you could still see through to the freakin' primer.

The other room, same trim, the SW paint did it in two.

[Jeff AMN]

For even more data and to be fair, I've never used Sherwin-Williams so I really can't compare the Behr paint jobs to anything... maybe everything in my house looks horrible and I just don't know it!

Well, in the end, it didn't look horrible... it just took Behr 7 painful coats, on long and winding trim, to get full coverage.  After 4 coats you could still see through to the freakin' primer.

The other room, same trim, the SW paint did it in two.

Huh, I've never had any issues with Behr. On my cab, the Behr paint looked a million times better than the original cab's paint after only two coats. I went with three, but two would have been just fine.

[Organic Jerk]

I wouldn't paint a cab with canned spray paint.  Stenciling, maybe, but never a base coat. 

Why not?  I've been seeing approvals for spraying around (even over smooth roller)...

What would you suggest for someone on a budget?

[TOK]

Instead of a brand, I recommend using an oil based enamel. A satin black enamel is a pretty tough finish, and a close match for what was on many original games.

[bleargh]

Well, in the end, it didn't look horrible... it just took Behr 7 painful coats, on long and winding trim, to get full coverage.  After 4 coats you could still see through to the freakin' primer.

The other room, same trim, the SW paint did it in two.

Had similar problems when painting the bathroom when we moved in.... stupid  at HD sold us deep red Behr paint using the base for lighter coloured paint.  Five coats on (and two days later), and I could still see through the damned paint.

Went back to HD and yelled at the person behind the counter about it being crap paint and he looked at it and said "no wonder, what dumb-ass sold you that? that's for light colours".  Uh, the other dork in your department...  Gave us a new can of the same tint but using the base for deep colours.  One coat covered everything up.  Used the same deep base can in another room and only needed two coats to get it a nice and rich colour.

So... if you're putting on any sort of deep/dark/rich colour, be sure that they tint it using the right base can.

[JustMichael]

If you have kids, make sure whatever paint you choose can take being scrubbed.  Sooner or later they will make a mess somewhere on the cab and of course it won't be found until the mess is dry.

[Jeff AMN]

If you have kids, make sure whatever paint you choose can take being scrubbed.  Sooner or later they will make a mess somewhere on the cab and of course it won't be found until the mess is dry.

Mr. Clean Magic Eraser is a blessed tool for cleaning up cabinets.

[Zakk]

Behr is a HORRIBLE paint, there's no two ways about it.  I've used it extensively and and can honestly say it is next to CIL BULK-INDUSTRIAL paint in terms of quality.  There is references on the net to how many polymers or something a paint has, and how well it will bond, but keep away if at all possible.

I currently use Benjamin-Moore paint, and it is absolutely killer.  Twice the price, but will cover 3X as much.

[ChadTower]

Why not?  I've been seeing approvals for spraying around (even over smooth roller)...

What would you suggest for someone on a budget?

Spray cans will not be cheaper anyway, there's not all that much in a spray can.  And I've yet to see anyone here recommend spray cans for a base coat on a cab.  They're just not designed for that.

When people say spray, they usually mean with a paint sprayer, and a decent paint sprayer isn't cheap.

[shardian]

The Behr argument has popped up on here multiple times, and there is always 50/50 people who like/dislike it. All I can figure is that their quality control is sucky for that kind of polarizing opinion.

Personally, I decided to try Behr in the baby room because their white is much brighter than any other brand. After 2 gallons of semi-gloss on a twice primed, 10'x12' room, I said screw it and bought some cheap Enterprise paint and covered it up. The stuff just does not cover very well at all, even though it uses more than twice the amount of paint other brands require for the same area. I definitely would not recommend it.

[Organic Jerk]

When people say spray, they usually mean with a paint sprayer, and a decent paint sprayer isn't cheap.

Arrghh.. so what would you suggest for someone on a budget?  Or should my budget just go out the door?

Are the smooth rollers a better idea for me?

[shardian]

If you are on a budget, go to walmart, buy a gallon of Enterprise,a small foam roller, and some extrafine grit sandpaper. If your budget can't fit that, then yeah you better throw it out the window.

[ChadTower]

Depends on how picky you're going to be about the finish.  You can get a decent finish from a low end paint sprayer if you use the tool well.  It will never be mirror perfect, but then again, most people can't get that from a pro setup.


Many here have gotten quite good results from foam rollers.  I wouldn't toss that out as a method.

[Zakk]

The Behr argument has popped up on here multiple times, and there is always 50/50 people who like/dislike it. All I can figure is that their quality control is sucky for that kind of polarizing opinion.

Personally, I decided to try Behr in the baby room because their white is much brighter than any other brand. After 2 gallons of semi-gloss on a twice primed, 10'x12' room, I said screw it and bought some cheap Enterprise paint and covered it up. The stuff just does not cover very well at all, even though it uses more than twice the amount of paint other brands require for the same area. I definitely would not recommend it.

It has nothing to do with quality control, it's a simple fact that behr only sticks well to certain surfaces (like unprimed drywall).   For anything else, it smears, runs and requires multiple coats.  The people that say they like behr paint honestly just don't know any better, or lucked out and painted an unprimed, unpainted surface.

[ChadTower]

It seems odd to me that a mass production consumer paint would have trouble sticking to quality primer.  I use Kilz on everything.

[Joystick Jerk]

I used a black melamine paint on my last cab. Came out great and is tough as a rock. Only downside is it was hard to find, and damn expensive. The only place I could find it was at Benjamin Moore, and it was $50 a pot.

[Zakk]

It seems odd to me that a mass production consumer paint would have trouble sticking to quality primer.  I use Kilz on everything.

even on meat loaf?  you monster.

[vintagegamer]

I've actually been using Behr paint in my home for years now, and just bought some tonight to touch up my Ms Pac cab..  I'll provide an update when it has dried (tomorrow AM).



VINTAGEGAMER

[suits00]

If you're on a budget, i recommend spray paint, and actually used spray paint on my whole cabinet. Yes, spray cans

[Jeff AMN]

Well, I just finished painting a cab this morning using...wait for it...BEHR PAINT. I used a black semi-gloss and it looks great. After just one coat it's really looking good. After three, it should be perfect.

This isn't the first time I've used Behr. I am using the foam rollers each time around, however, and I think that makes ANY paint go on much better.

[ChadTower]

even on meat loaf?  you monster.

Only if it has onions in it.  If there are no onions, it's just horseboy's mom.

[AMDman13]

I used Rust-Oleum oil based Black Satin as I have 4 children and I wanted a tough enamel finish. I highly recommend an oil based as it's hard as nails! Also, go with a oil based primer and have it tinted to what ever color you are using. Take the time and use two coats sanding down to about a 300 grit and it will hide any minor blemishes you have in the wood underneath. I used a white high quality dense roller, but will probably use a sprayer next time I tackle one of these.

[Zakk]

I used Rust-Oleum oil based Black Satin as I have 4 children and I wanted a tough enamel finish. I highly recommend an oil based as it's hard as nails! Also, go with a oil based primer and have it tinted to what ever color you are using. Take the time and use two coats sanding down to about a 300 grit and it will hide any minor blemishes you have in the wood underneath. I used a white high quality dense roller, but will probably use a sprayer next time I tackle one of these.

Oil based through a sprayer is a helluva nasty cleanup.

[CheffoJeffo]

Instead of a brand, I recommend using an oil based enamel. A satin black enamel is a pretty tough finish, and a close match for what was on many original games.

 

Here in Canada, Benjamin Moore makes a black oil enamel that is the BLACKEST BLACK I have ever seen and covers brilliantly. It comes as black in the can (no tinting) and is a good, tough, solid black.

[spacies]

I'm a squirter 

As long as it comes out of the end of gun, I am happy.

Current paint of choice, 2k, or 2 pot. Base coat and clear coat.
The same stuff your car is painted with.

Goes on dead flat and has the best shine and wear.
You have to be careful using it though. Full air fed respirator etc.

I am currently working on a project and I will post some pics in a couple of weeks when it's done.