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Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« on: February 28, 2007, 03:32:37 am »
I've been putting off doing my project announcement for awhile since I wanted to get moving on the project while I had some time, but now that I've got a few days, I guess its time to start writing, so here goes.  This might get a little long and boring, but I dont have a blog or a webpage of my own, so I'm going to put everything here.

I have wanted to build a MAME cab for awhile.  I'm sure my story is the same as most everyone else's, growing up playing classic games and loving it.  We had a pinball machine in the house most of my childhood (Cyclone!), and made regular trips to the arcade when I got good grades.  When I finally got out on my own and got enough money, I bought an old SFII cab from a buddy and played that for hours.   I got married, had a kid and eventually the machine moved on to another loving owner due to space constraints.  I always wanted to get something similar back.

Fast forward to two years ago, we moved from Southern California to the Detroit area.  The SoCal real estate market had been good to me, so we were able to afford a nice house just north of Detroit with a huge basement.  The basement has become my playground, with a pool table, air hockey table, big screen (not HD though - maybe next year!), bar and a poker table.  I wanted to get a few games for it, and settled on Star Wars pinball (great game - affordable unlike Addams Family) and a Ms Pacman/Galaga reunion cabaret.  I got the cabaret before I had heard about MAME and seen the great work that everyone here has done.  After a bit, I got a little bored with the game and stopped playing (though I still play pinball nearly every day).  Then a buddy of mine told me about MAME, and I happened across this site.  I've been lurking forever, but just registered.  I'm now in between jobs, and figured that it would be a great time to build my own cab with all the games I grew up on, so I have begun the process.

Considering that I have no woodworking skills whatsoever (you dont learn how to use a router sitting behind a desk), my first step was decide how to build the cabinet, or whether to get a predesigned cab.  In the end I decided that I needed to learn a few new skills and maybe acquire some new tools along the way, so I would build my own.  Fortunately my wife's uncle is a very good woodworker, and he agreed to assist me in the project so that I dont accidentally remove any appendages. 

My design is based off the LuSiD design, with a few modifications here and there.  Mainly I've shortened the front base of the cab from 38" to 32" to allow for barstools and also just for looks, since I think the LuSiD design is maybe a little too boxy.  I have also narrowed the CP top by an inch on each side to 32" total so that I can play virtual pinball by using side buttons without the overhang getting in the way.  Neither of these changes are major, but I think will help the project look a little sleeker while still allowing for a large CP that I can play most of the games I cherish.

Due to my wife's uncle's schedule, I had to put the cabinet building on the back burner until this upcoming weekend, so I spent much of the first couple of weeks checking out everyone else's cabs and deciding which games I wanted to have.   I had an old computer (Dell Pentium 4) that was collecting dust that I fired up and got configured with MaLa.  I plan on running MAME, Daphne, FCEUltra (NES), Stella (Atari 2600) and maybe something for Sega Genesis (how can I not have NHL 94 on this?).  The computer works well, and needed a wireless card and a new graphics card (ATI 9550), but otherwise suited my needs.  A clean install of XP and its running very well.  I struggled alot with the monitor choice.  I had a 17" monitor that wasnt being used, but I thought it was too small.  I had an old 27 inch TV, but it only had composite connections.  Most of the arcade monitor choices were priced outside the budget, and getting a large enough CRT monitor either proved to be impossible or really expensive.  In the end, I decided to go with a TV, and bought the 27" Insignia from Best Buy that is the subject of a large thread in the main forum.  I had a BB gift card from Christmas, so it wasnt too expensive.  I just need to get my DVI-> component adapter and I should be in good shape.  S-Video is a little muddy on the older games right now, so hopefully the switch to component will work a little better.

After I got the computer configuration and monitor worked out, I needed to figure out what controls to put on the CP.  Since I loved Street Fighter, I really wanted a 2 player, 6 button layout.  I also am a huge Golden Tee freak, so a trackball was a must.  And I loved Arkanoid and Tempest, so a spinner also needed to be in the cards.   I really went back and forth on the joysticks, and decided to get the switchable 4/8 way Mag Stick plus sticks from Ultimarc.  I had considered getting a dedicated 4 way, but I didnt want too much clutter on the CP and wanted it east enough for people to play when they came over, and thought a 3rd joystick might be confusing.  I also have a big follow through on Golden Tee, so I didnt want any controls in front of the the trackball.  The Mag Sticks allow for easy switching without lifting the CP, and since I would be playing a good mix of SF and classic games, these seemed like the best option.  I got a Happ 3" highball trackball for my Golden Tee addiction, and a TurboTwist 2 spinner since it was compact and seems like a great product.  With the exception of the TT2, I got everything from Ultimarc (including an iPac, Optipac and buttons and wiring kit). 

I set out to build a prototype control panel to make sure that I liked the layout.  I took 3 sheets of cardboard and glued them together with wood glue (that wood glue is really strong).   This left me with a 3/4" sheet of thick cardboard that I though would give me a good approximation of what my CP will end up like (I plan on using 3/4" MDF).  I designed a layout in Adobe Pagemaker (thanks for the 30 day free trial Adobe!) and overlaid it onto the cardboard.  I cut holes for the joysticks and trackball with a box cutter, and drilled button holes with a 1 1/8 speedbor bit.  The drilling worked OK, but it chewed up the cardboard and I had to keep stopping to remove debris.  It also made a little bit of a mess of the 6 button layouts since the cardboard got a little chewed up, but I fixed it up with some tape.  I cut the top layer only of the cardboard to sink the trackball mounting plate and top mount the joysticks, which actually worked pretty well.  Both are a little below flush, but its fine for the template.  I got everything wired up and hooked it to the computer, and holy cow it worked.  Here's a picture of my CP.  The black outline is just some duct tape that I used to hold the base on the CP (and also used to hold the paper template, which I ripped off when I was done with the cutting).   Here's a picture of what the final template ended up looking like. 



I hadnt added the spinner when I took this picture, but its now above the 2P controls.  I tried it on both sides, but I liked it above the 2P side so that I could use the 1P fire controls.  Plus then it was out of the way from the trackball.   I didnt end up making any significant changes to the design after playing a bunch of games.  My only concern is the screen on the TV getting in the way when playing Golden Tee, but I am going to angle the TV a bit in the cabinet, so that should help a little bit.  If not, I may just have to live with permanently broken fingers.

After getting everything wired and seeing people's cabs with lighted buttons, I started to really want to bling out my cab too (man this hobby is getting expensive).  RandyT just announced his NovaGem buttons, so I ordered some blue ones for the player controls and red ones for the admin buttons, along with a LEDwiz.  I thought about getting the Electric ICE buttons with the RGB drives for multicolors, but then I would have needed a second LEDwiz, and I think that the NovaGems should be enough.  They should be here before the weekend, so hopefully I can get those added to the CP soon.  I also ordered an LED to light the trackball (translucent blue).  I ordered the Glowire 4 LED that Retroblast did in their writeup.  Although I havent gotten it yet, I'm wondering if the TBLite that Whammoed offers would have been as good a solution at a quarter of the price.  I thought about sending it back, but when I figure in the shipping to order it, return it and get the TBLite, I'm pretty sure I'm just as well off keeping it.  I'll see how I like it when it arrives and make my final decision then.  For speakers, I have an old set of Harmon Kardon computer speakers that I hacked up and will mount those under the marquee.  I got a SmartSTRIP from Bits Ltd and set that up, and it works fine.  My only problem so far with it is wiring everything so that I can use a one button on feature, but I'll post that in the main forum later.

I'm going with the standard black cabinet with blue t-molding.  I know its played out a bit here, but I think it will actually look good in my basement.  I struggled with the artwork of the cab a fair amount.  I'm totally art-deficient, and would never be able to design anything myself for the marquee/CPO/sideart.  I'm much more into more understated designs on the cabinet, and I dont want the art to take anything away from the cab itself.  I also didnt want to have to explain to everyone that comes over what MAME is, so I didnt want that too prominently displayed.  I found a cool marquee at MAMEmarquees.com, and have asked Scott to make it into a full CPO.  He's working on it now, so hopefully it turns out cool.  I think it should look sweet when its done.  I'll post pictures of that once I get something back from him.  That along with the marquee and side art should finish off everything pretty well (at least it does in my head). 

We're building the cabinet this weekend, and I'll post some more pictures as we progress through that.

Thanks for listening and sorry for the long and rambling post.






« Last Edit: April 19, 2007, 04:05:22 am by WLVRYN »

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Re: Brad's First Cab
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 10:17:36 pm »
Looks like you're off to a good start Brad.  :cheers:     NICE JOB!!

can i ask some questions about your CP?
i built my cab a little over a year ago, with a friend (we built 2 at the same time actually).
he found the X-arcade CPs and we decided to go with those from a time & expense perspective. i regret the decision, but it works ok.  the feel is less quality and i don't like that i don't have any command buttons (ESC, tab, etc.)
i'd also like to add a trackball and spinner.

so.........
your prototype is very similar to what i was thinking.  looks like an excellent design.
do you have any dimensions (how wide / tall and where did you mount the spinner (more precisely).
I was looking at the GroovyGameGear parts and wanted to know what you thought about yours.
I was planning on the same JS, and spinner, but you said you went with a Happ trackball, why?

btw, just a suggestion, but while you're building, add a couple buttons on the side of the cab for pinball flippers and bump/tilts.  I didn't originally plan to play pinball games, but I've really gotten attached to Visual and future pinball, lots of FUN!

Thanks!   Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Brad's First Cab
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2007, 10:45:05 am »
so.........
your prototype is very similar to what i was thinking.  looks like an excellent design.
do you have any dimensions (how wide / tall and where did you mount the spinner (more precisely).
I was looking at the GroovyGameGear parts and wanted to know what you thought about yours.
I was planning on the same JS, and spinner, but you said you went with a Happ trackball, why?

btw, just a suggestion, but while you're building, add a couple buttons on the side of the cab for pinball flippers and bump/tilts.  I didn't originally plan to play pinball games, but I've really gotten attached to Visual and future pinball, lots of FUN!


The CP is 32" wide by 18" deep.  I used the basic LuSiD design that is 34" by 18", but I didnt want the top of the CP to overhang the CP box as much as I thought it would with an extra inch on either side (mainly because I wanted to put side pinball buttons on the cab - thanks for the suggestion though!).  I dont have a tab button on the CP at the suggestion of some others here.  My admin buttons are 1P start, coin, Esc/Exit, Pause, Mouse Left, Mouse Right, coin and 2P start from left to right across the top.  I think that at least those are useful to have on top, and I have the keyboard easily accessible if I need to use the tab function.

My spinner is located directly above the 2P left hand buttons.  There's about 2.5" inches between the bottom of the spinner and the top of the buttons.  That's plenty of room to rest your hand without hitting the 2P buttons.  I made a template in PageMaker and also have it in PDF, so if you want me to send it you, send me a PM with your email address.

I got the Happ trackball mainly because that's what Ultimarc sells, and I was trying to limit my shipping costs (thought later I decided to add some stuff from GGG, so I guess I could have gotten one from them - but that was after my first controller purchase).  I do like it and it seems to work fine.  I think that I could have gotten the trackball and mounting plate cheaper from Divemaster than from Ultimarc, but I didnt find Divemaster's pricing until after I already got my stuff from Ultimarc.  I cant comment on the ones that GGG sells, but based on my experiences with Randy, I'm sure they're fine.

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Re: Brad's First Cab
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2007, 11:01:33 am »


Wow man. That is a lot of writing. I thought I was long winded. I got nothing on you.

Welcome to byoac. Your Control Panel layout looks great. I'm sure your project will turn out great. Please keep us posted and don't forget to take lots of pics!!


I get all jealous about peoples control panels cause the first one that I built really really sucked. Wish me luck on my next one.


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Re: Brad's First Cab
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2007, 12:47:04 pm »
Thanks WLVRYN!

I PM'd you as well, with my email, so please send the pdf.

What is the LuSID design? (maybe I missed that before. have to do a google and a BYOAC search on it next)

My challenge is going to be a 25" width limit. I don't want it to extend beyond my cab width.
I plan to build it over the next couple of months, I'm not in a hurry now (I'm satisfied with the X-Arcade, but not happy).
I'm just doing research now.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2007, 09:29:55 pm »
Didn't know if this would be of interest to you, Found it and may utilize compenents of it as well.

http://www.arcadecab.com/images/CP_Pics/cp1.2-port.pdf

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Re: Brad's First Cab
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 10:31:53 pm »
That CP looks very busy.  I wanted to try to be minimal on the buttons, while still being able to play fairly easily without having to get the keyboard out too often.  I also didnt want anything above or below the trackball because I think my cab will have a fair amount of Golden Tee played on it.  Obviously if you dont want to go over 25", then things will be a little tight.

As for the LuSiD design, its on the examples page over there <---- in the Hall of Fame section, and also in Saint's book.   

A little update, we made most of the cuts in the MDF today.  We got a late start, so we didnt get much further than that before we had to call it a day.  Hopefully I'll be able to do some assembly tomorrow, but my wife's uncle wont be able to help (fudge!).

I got the Novagems and LEDwiz from Randy on Friday, and will try to hook them up later tonight or tomorrow to see how they look on the prototype.   

I got my first look at the CPO from Scott at mamemarquees, and I think it looks pretty cool.  I'll post it once I get the next turn (which should be pretty close to final).

I'm still struggling on wiring the external power button on the cabinet.  I posted about it in the main forum, but havent had much luck.  I'll keep goofing around with it though because I really want to get that working so I dont have to open the cab each time to turn it on.

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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 12:34:49 am »
yea, I have to agree, I think that may be too many buttons. I'll probably use the shift-key option on the KeyWiz.
I was checking out those novegems too, pretty cool.
Keep the pictures coming.  :applaud:

fyi, I installed a coindoor in my cab and wired the lights on the coin returns. I mounted the PC on-off switch behind the coin-return button and plugged the PC and all of the electronics (TV, Speakers, marque light, etc) into a Smart-Bit(?) (or something like that) power-strip. When I want to turn it on, I hit the coin-return and the whole machine powers up!
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 12:46:09 am »
Yeah, I have the SmartStrip.  Its a problem with the Dell computer I'm using, not anything else.  They use proprietary motherboards and I'm having a helluva time trying to figure out which pins to wire to.  I'm sure I'm not doing something right, but I have a buddy who's really knowledgable about computers coming over tomorrow and maybe we can figure it out then.

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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 02:59:13 am »
Alright, its been awhile since I posted in this thread, but my game is done.  I was lazy about posting, but I did take pictures along the way so I'll post some here.

All in all I'm reallyy happy with the game and the way it turned out.  Nearly everything turned out well, except for my work with the Lexan for the CPO and the TV bezel.  I will probably end up redoing that at some point, but it looks OK and is good enough for now.

Thanks to Andy from Ultimarc for the Magstick Plus switchable joys and the ipac and optipac.  Great products.

I'd like to thank RandyT from GGG for his help (I broke the connector on my LEDwiz when my son kicked over the CP while I was working on it - Randy fixed it for free!) and his great products.  The NovaGems and the LEDwiz work great, and I love the TT2 spinner. 

I'd also like to thank Scott from Mamemarquees.com.  I posted about this in the hardware review thread, but he was pretty patient with me and did a really nice job on the marquee, sideart and CPO.

On to the pictures and some discussion!

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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 04:04:59 am »
When I left off I was having a bunch of trouble getting the 1 button power on and off working, but I finally figured it out.  Just suffice to say that Dell computers can be a pain in the ass sometimes.

My wife's uncle finally came over to help with the cabinet portion of the project.  Unfortunately he wasnt able to help as much as I had hoped, but this actually turned out to be a blessing in disguise.  It forced me to do most of the work and to learn about woodworking (and make many mistakes), so that was a benefit.  He also let me borrow most of his tools, so I am grateful for that.

After following the LuSiD cutting plans, I set out to start assembling this thing.  I didnt feel comfortable enough in my skills to just have the TV sitting on a shelf with no support underneath.  Because of that, I built a shelf and support for the TV.  I'm sure I overengineered it, but I feel fine with it and I dont think it added to the overall weight too much.  The shelf was angled back somewhat (about the same as the side angles of the cabinet).  Here's a picture of what it ended up looking like: 



The other benefit to building the support was that it made assembling the sides of the cabinet a little easier since I did most of it myself.  I just stood the side panel cutouts next to the support and held them in place with pipe clamps and the sawhorses.  Again I'm sure that I overdrilled the cabinet sides, but I wanted it to be secure.  Here's a picture of the cabinet with the sides attached (all the light spots are the hundreds of woodfiller-filled screw holes):



I also got the speakers mounted in the speaker shelf and the marquee light put up.  I had trouble finding speaker grills for 3" speakers, so I ended up cutting the speaker holes with a hole saw and routing a slot around the holes.  I put some 120mm fan grilles that I found on frozencpu.com on top of the holes and the the speakers on top of them.  I then planned on putting t-moulding in the slot so that it didnt look too bad.  I used some old Harmon Kardon computer speakers and pulled the PCB out.  The PCB is now mounted on the right side of the marquee where the shelf is routed out a bit.  I drilled a hole and dropped the volume knob through so that I can adjust the volume very easily.  Here's a pic:



I had wanted to have a cabinet door on the front so I could access the computer easily, but was worried about the weight of the door.  At the suggestion of someone in the woodworking forum and my uncle, I ended up cutting the door in half so that there were two doors.  This is probably the part of the cabinet I had the most difficulty with.  I spent a lot of time getting the doors lined up, and then when I finally mounted them, realized that I didnt build out the side that they were mounted to enough, so they wouldnt open without hitting the sides of the cabinet.  I finally got it reengineered and it looks OK, but there are still some noticeable gaps around all sides of the doors.  I decided I could live with it and when the cabinet was all painted, if it looked really bad, I would redo it. 



The only really dumb thing I did during the whole construction process came while I was building the CP box.  I couldnt for the life of me figure out how people were getting rounded outside corners on their boxes.  I thought about it for a bit and decided that I would use quarter round moulding on the corners.  They didnt line up perfectly on all the corners, so I spent some time with the sander trying to get the edges flush.  It didnt occur to me until later that I could build the box square and then use a router to round the corners over.   :banghead:  By that point, I didnt want to redo it, but I'll know better next time. 

Once I got the cabinet done, I started on the control panel.  I ordered a CPO template from mamemarquees.com when I got all my artwork and taped it down to the CP to drill the button holes and screw holes.  I debated top mounting or bottom mounting the joysticks and ended up topmounting them.  I'm not sure that was the best way to go, but there were pros and cons on either side.  I ended up topmounting mainly because I didnt want any carriage bolt holes in the CP top, but I also lose easy access to the joys unless I take the whole CP apart.   Anyway, here's what the CP looks like before I bondo'ed in the trackball mounting plate:



I ended up putting cardboard cutouts on top of the joysticks so that the CPO would lay flat and not sink into the holes.  A little woodfiller in the edges and some sanding and it turned out pretty flat and would not be that difficult to get to if I needed to adjust the joysticks.   I went a little overboard with the bondo the first time, and spent a bunch of time sanding it down flat with the CPO.  I also cut the Lexan CP cover at the same time.  I had some trouble making the Lexan cuts right, so it wasnt cut perfectly, but its mostly in places that only I will notice. 

Once I got that done, it was time for the paint.   I put 3 coats of grey primer on, followed by 3 coats of black semigloss with just a little sanding in between.  It ended up pretty nice looking and I'm happy with the way it turned out.  After the paint, I got the t-moulding in and moved it to the basement where the other games are. 

The CPO that I used was actually the background of the marquee that I chose (one of mamemarquees stock ones).  There is a bright star on it that I wanted the trackball cutout to replace so that it looked like the starburst was coming from the trackball.  Because of this and the button labels that I had printed on the CPO, I was worried about getting everything to line up with the lexan and the CP, so I didnt remove the adhesive backing at first.  Instead I just clamped down the lexan on top of the CP with the CPO in the middle.  I used an exacto knife to cut all the holes out, and it worked fairly well (except for one big scratch I put in the lexan with the knife when cutting the trackball hole).  Once I got everything cut, I was still worried about getting it all lined up, so I decided to leave the adhesive backing on and just use the buttons to hold everything in place.

I got the Novagem buttons in and wired up, along with the joysticks and trackball/spinner to the optipac, iPac and LEDwiz's that I had.  As I was wiring the Novagems, my 3 year old walked by and accidentally knocked the CP off the table, causing the USB connector on the LEDwiz to break.  RandyT was awesome and repaired it for free.  Unfortunately it set me back a couple of days waiting for it to get shipped out and back.  Once I got it back, I was in business.  I also was able to get the LEDwiz plugin mostly configured so that the buttons light up for use in specific games, which add a cool factor when showing it off, but also help people who are familiar with the game know which controls to use.

I had some problems with the lexan lifting off the edges of the CPO.  I debated using carriage bolts to hold the edges down, but I instead used just some silver screws that I had and countersunk them into the lexan.  That's the one thing that I dont really like about the game.  I'll probably try to throw some paint on them to make them not so noticeable or swap them out with short drywall screws, but I havent gotten around to that yet.

I moved the computer and TV into the cabinet and hooked everything.  I got the marquee mounted and the sideart attached.  I made a bezel out of black foamboard that I got from Staples and covered that with a sheet of lexan.  I may end up painting the TV case black in the future since you can see the edges (the TV is grey/silver), but its not something that I will lose sleep over. 

 There are a few things that bug me, but nothing so much that I dont consider myself effectively done at this point.  I'm still toying around with some software stuff, but the game is assembled and functional.  All in all, I'm pretty happy with it.   Here are some final shots.

Finished game:



Control panel:



Control panel buttons lit (note that the top admin buttons are actually red, not orange - the pics dont do justice):



Marquee (not a great picture, but hard to get the lighting right):



Sideart (same on both sides of cabinet):



Finished cabinet doors:



All my babies (Star Wars pinball, Galaga/Ms PacMan Reunion cabaret and my new creation):



That's about it, sorry for the length and lack of updates. If you have questions, shoot.  Otherwise, I'll be playing my game.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 02:18:18 pm »
Nice cab ! That Galaga/Ms PacMan Reunion looks really small. Can a 6 foot guy even see the whole screen ?

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Re: Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 02:47:31 pm »
Galaga/Ms. Pacman are ok, Star wars pinball - sure that might be fun for a while, and a mame machine could be playable for a little bit... the real fun is in the hallway. Talk about Retro - I haven't played with one of those for 32 years


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Re: Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 05:59:01 pm »
 :laugh2:

I thought at first when I started to read the above post I thought the guy was going to say something rude until he pointed out the thing in the hall way... I love it.

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Re: Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2007, 09:11:22 pm »
That Galaga/Ms PacMan Reunion looks really small. Can a 6 foot guy even see the whole screen ?

Its about 3/4 the size of the full cabinet.  I'm 6'1", and I've never had any problems seeing the screen.  Its sloped enough that you can you see it OK.  We originally got the cabaret version because where I put the games in the first place, I had them in a corner and didnt have too much room.  With the addition of this game, we moved them out to a bigger area. 


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Re: Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2007, 09:21:43 pm »
Galaga/Ms. Pacman are ok, Star wars pinball - sure that might be fun for a while, and a mame machine could be playable for a little bit... the real fun is in the hallway. Talk about Retro - I haven't played with one of those for 32 years



You have no idea.  My wife's parents buy my kids (2 and almost 4 years old) a new toy every time they come over.  Our house looks like Toys'R'Us (but much messier).  I'm surprised that I was able to keep even that many toys out of the pictures.  If I took pictures of the rest of the basement, it would make you sick.

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Re: Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2007, 01:30:47 am »
Very nice looking Cab!!! :cheers:

I'm just wondering how you attached the Lexan on your cabinet and does it scratch real easy or not?  Also, what did you use to attach the foamboard to the lexan?

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Re: Brad's First Cab - FINISHED!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2007, 02:04:56 am »
The lexan was originally held down with just the buttons, but started lifting along the bottom and side edges.  I countersunk and put #8 woodscrews in to hold it down.  There's 2 on each side and two on the bottom (basically at every angle cut on the CP).  It was very easy to cut, drill and rout (I used a roundover bit on the trackball hole since I didnt have a chamfer bit, but it worked out the same).  It does scratch very easily.  I was cutting my CPO and the exacto knife slipped, and left a pretty large scratch right above the trackball.  It bugs me a fair amount, but not enough to cut a new CPO right now.

As for the foamboard, I put a few pieces of scrap wood on the inside of the cabinet to mount the lexan to.  There are two on each side near the top, as well as one right in the middle on the top.  I countersunk and put 1" black drywall screws through the lexan and the foamboard.  Also, I did the same on either side at the bottom where the lexan meets the TV shelf.  5 screws is plenty to hold the lexan and the foamboard in place, and the black foamboard hides the black drywall screws fairly well.