Simple yes no question

[Zakk]

This should settle THE GREAT DEBATE once and for all.

[markrvp]

Yep, that puppy's broked.

[CheffoJeffo]

Like a geetar with no g-string ...

[modessitt]

Not so simple....

Not always, some games like crazy climber, battlezone, etc. use weird joysticks that can wobble back an forth if the grommets are broken, but the joystick will still work, unless the connector is unplugged or the ground wire is off.  Don't assume that just because it wobbles that the problem is the joystick, as most will still send signals when the switches close.  Of course, some joystick assemblies can't close switches if the housing is broken.  So, the answer would be: It depends on the joystick....

[CheffoJeffo]

 

[leapinlew]

Not so simple....

Not always, some games like crazy climber, battlezone, etc. use weird joysticks that can wobble back an forth if the grommets are broken, but the joystick will still work, unless the connector is unplugged or the ground wire is off.  Don't assume that just because it wobbles that the problem is the joystick, as most will still send signals when the switches close.  Of course, some joystick assemblies can't close switches if the housing is broken.  So, the answer would be: It depends on the joystick....

Too bad this isn't being discussed somewhere else - would make for an interesting conversation.

[boykster]

it'd be brokeded....

and her did.....

[pointdablame]

Not so simple....

Not always, some games like crazy climber, battlezone, etc. use weird joysticks that can wobble back an forth if the grommets are broken, but the joystick will still work, unless the connector is unplugged or the ground wire is off.  Don't assume that just because it wobbles that the problem is the joystick, as most will still send signals when the switches close.  Of course, some joystick assemblies can't close switches if the housing is broken.  So, the answer would be: It depends on the joystick....

his question states that the joystick wobbles AND doesn't allow you to move to the left, right, or down.....  Did Crazy Climber and Battlezone do that too?

[Zakk]

Not so simple....

Not always, some games like crazy climber, battlezone, etc. use weird joysticks that can wobble back an forth if the grommets are broken, but the joystick will still work, unless the connector is unplugged or the ground wire is off.  Don't assume that just because it wobbles that the problem is the joystick, as most will still send signals when the switches close.  Of course, some joystick assemblies can't close switches if the housing is broken.  So, the answer would be: It depends on the joystick....

sooo. yes? 

[Donkey_Kong]

If a joystick is all wobbly, and won't allow your player to move left, right and down, is it BROKEN?
Yes
No

"WON'T ALLOW" = BROKEN

   

[psychotech]

Come on ..

You've  got no way to go but UP!

How can it be broken?

[JackTucky]

 

=J

[modessitt]

Not so simple....

Not always, some games like crazy climber, battlezone, etc. use weird joysticks that can wobble back an forth if the grommets are broken, but the joystick will still work, unless the connector is unplugged or the ground wire is off.  Don't assume that just because it wobbles that the problem is the joystick, as most will still send signals when the switches close.  Of course, some joystick assemblies can't close switches if the housing is broken.  So, the answer would be: It depends on the joystick....

his question states that the joystick wobbles AND doesn't allow you to move to the left, right, or down.....  Did Crazy Climber and Battlezone do that too?

If you look closely, I explain that a wobbly joystick is not always a cause for not being able to move, and that some games have joysticks that feel wobbly (like Crazy Climber) when compared with other games (like Pac-Man).  A wobbly joystick could be broken and not allow switch contacts to be closed, or a wobbly joystick could be loose and still close switch contacts, in which case it would be a wiring or board problem.  If the joystick didn't wobble, yet didn't allow you to move, would you assume the joystick was broken?  I've played lots of games with wobbly joysticks that DID allow movement, as I'm sure many have....

Which is why I stated,"It depends on the joystick...."

I agree that it could be an interesting topic on joystick problems/repair....

[JackTucky]

I agree that it could be an interesting topic on joystick problems/repair....

You're right.  Start a thread about it.

=J

[shorthair]

Though Modessitt (and, is that an homage to the writer?) did give a good explanation of things, the general question (to this thread) begs: 'who cares?'.
A much better gauge of determining the status of the stick are expressed in the following two questions: 1. does it perform according design?  2. is that how you want it?

(I give credit to ZAKK for well-ly characterizing the two sticks.)

[Hoopz]

Though Modessitt (and, is that an homage to the writer?) did give a good explanation of things, the general question (to this thread) begs: 'who cares?'.

Shorthair meet maxim! 

[shardian]

In its current state, yes it is broken. That is the only question here. Noone said anything about repairs.

Odds are that a joystick in that shape is probably repairable with a grommet and some leafs. It could be missing parts, have parts installed incorrectly, etc.

[CheffoJeffo]

Though Modessitt (and, is that an homage to the writer?) did give a good explanation of things, the general question (to this thread) begs: 'who cares?'.
A much better gauge of determining the status of the stick are expressed in the following two questions: 1. does it perform according design?  2. is that how you want it?

(I give credit to ZAKK for well-ly characterizing the two sticks.)

Now, see, I could jump all ova yo ass on this cos to me this would be a no-brainer. But, why would I do that?

[DrewKaree]

I see at this moment that there are 25 "yes" votes.  Please post how you voted.  There's only 19 official members and obviously there's enough interest that a new membership drive needs to be done

[Zakk]

I see at this moment that there are 25 "yes" votes.  Please post how you voted.  There's only 19 official members and obviously there's enough interest that a new membership drive needs to be done

Perhaps the poll is broken?  Hmm, nope, made by nintendo, so there's no way.  Carry on.

[xar256]

It's broken....Definitely, definitely broken.   

[johnm160]

Yep, currently broken.....

[sez]

Yep, she broke bloke.

[FrizzleFried]

It's busted, disabled, down, downtime, exhausted, fallen apart, faulty, feeble, gone, haywire, imperfect, in disrepair, inoperable, kaput, not functioning, out, ruined, run-down, screwed up, shot, spent, unsatisfactory, weak, wracked...

In other words...

IT'S BROKEN!

[shorthair]

Now, see, I could jump all ova yo ass on this cos to me this would be a no-brainer. But, why would I do that?

Are you coming on to me?

[danny_galaga]

yes

i mean no

errr...

[missioncontrol]

brokededed

[CheffoJeffo]

Now, see, I could jump all ova yo ass on this cos to me this would be a no-brainer. But, why would I do that?

Are you coming on to me?

When I do that, I'll let you know.

[horseboy]

Yep...errr....I mean, yes.

[ChadTower]

No, because that's not enough info to determine "broken".  It could need simple maintenance.  Plus, I don't consider the consumable parts (the switches) as something that would determine "broken" for the overall unit.

[boykster]

brokededed

and her did

[shardian]

No, because that's not enough info to determine "broken".  It could need simple maintenance.  Plus, I don't consider the consumable parts (the switches) as something that would determine "broken" for the overall unit.

So applying your logic, divemaster's car, which fell from a lift and was summarily destroyed is not really broken - it just needs some "consumable" parts replaced. Somebody better tell him that before he gets his lawyer on the case.

[ChadTower]

Those parts aren't consumable.  They are permanent.  Switches in a mechanical situation are consumable.  It's not like having his car trashed, it's like blowing his tires.

[shardian]

This is a retarded argument. If something is not working the way it is designed to, then something is broken. If something requires maintenance other than preventative maintenance, then it is broken. Something being broken is not a permanent end all phrase.

[JackTucky]

I knew Chad and maxim would get along.

=J

[boykster]

I knew Chad and maxim would get along.

=J

Ur MomZ!!!

[saint]

 

[Ed_McCarron]

I think Saint's patience is about to get broken.  Again.

[Goz]

Chad and Maxim would make a cute couple.... couple of whats I'm not sure, but regardless

[Dervacumen]

Picking apart the semantics of what was asked is a fine example of the US legal system.  Since the English language is composed of a finite number of words that imprecisely describe an infinite number of feelings or intentions there's always wiggle room if you command the language better than your opponent.

I say it's broken.