Somebody dimensioned their star wars cockpit

[rovingmind]

Yes i'm new, Yes i've searched this forum.  No i have not found any link to drawings of a starwars cockpit.

I've collected the wonderful side scans from the unclean caga.  I've printed out the original manual along with grabbing any photo of the cockpit i've come across while surfing.  I have my bezel and cpo, and have been drooling over the repro control yoke thats in design and presale.  I finally have a garage to work in.

Has anybody drawn up plans for this wondrous thing? 

I would, but i have no access to an original and havn't seen one in person for years.
I can piece together the sideart scans as reference using the printed cabinet length and height, but need dimensions on the internal woodwork to make accurate Cad drawings.

 I dont want to fudge it.

[polaris]

3d arcade
seen these, click on models
is the downloadable one of use for getting measurements in a cad program, ive no idea i cant use those programs but you may know

[rovingmind]

I could use it for conceptual views.  I have downloaded those models and the guy who modeled them did an excellent job.

For actual construction no.  I need physical dimensions.  He did the same thing i would have to make that model.  take a picture and build a 3d model off of it in a 3d modeling program.  Unfortunately it doesn't give the framework.

[polaris]

ebay
assuming youve seen it but just in case
see if the winner can help

[rovingmind]

I hadn't seen that one yet, thank you for the link.

The reason i posted on here is because i've seen a couple of the cabs in other peoples pictures of their home arcades or restoration work.   

Unfortunately most of the pictures were concerned with showing the graphics and not details of the cabinet.

[rovingmind]

How about some Highres photos straight on with a yardstick for reference?

Anyone?

[CheffoJeffo]

I am not aware of anybody here who HAS a SW cockpit, so you may well be shouting at the wall.

Sorry.

[ChadTower]

There are at least a couple guys who do... but this is a tall order, really.  You'd think at some point someone would have done this in the past.

[FrizzleFried]

If only I lived in Texas and had some expendable dough...ah...my "white elephant"...>sigh<

[horseboy]

How about some Highres photos straight on with a yardstick for reference?

Anyone?

Better yet how about some highres photos with a large transparent grid overlaying the entire cab? That shouldn't be a problem, right?

[ChadTower]

How about we swap the transparent grid with a 21 year old redhead stripper?

[horseboy]

We would have to have an accurate chart of her dimensions for this to be very useful. 

[ChadTower]

I can fill in optimal numbers with my imagination.

[rovingmind]

as long as the cuffs match i'm ok with the redhead

[squirrellydw]

Sorry to be off topic but can you use a U360 joystick to play starwars?  I am guessing in analog mode?

Thanks

[rovingmind]

I stumbled across one fellow from I believe denmark who had one in a state of dissassembly and had posted photos, but i havn't heard from him and he probably has it back together by now.  

This is my white elephant and if i'm going to take the time to do the cabinet i want it to be as right as possible.

Unfortunately some of the sides end up being three layers thick where they attach.  (the canopy cover)

I want the base cabinet to be as close as possible to the original from the outside.

Not counting a small builders plaque and a pair of usb ports.

[rovingmind]

Beets me, at the moment i use a USB Saitech Cyborg
(older model first usb without the 3d rotation option but still has the fully customizable handle)

Sorry to be off topic but can you use a U360 joystick to play starwars?  I am guessing in analog mode?

Thanks

[ChadTower]

Is the cockpit artwork out there?  That multilayered design would make it really hard to scan.

[rovingmind]

yep but its unclean, needs stitched back together, the yoke overlay is there also, the only thing i havn't been able to find artwork wise to work with is the ones that are on the bezel itself. 
I've found some very low-res photos that could be used to work from but they would be poor quality.

I have a bezel but the artwork was removed from it, and my controlpanel has a decent one on it already.  With Ram Controls reproduction yoke coming out soon, ( have to wait for christmas to get one) the cabinet itself is the stopping point.

[rovingmind]

http://www.arcadecollecting.com/caga/

in the unclean artwork section

Awesome job done on that.  They did it with an extremely mint machine.

[rovingmind]

http://andysarcade.de/projects_sw.html

this is the fellow with one in pieces

[ChadTower]

Cool.  He can probably help you out if he's so inclined.  I have an upright that's going to get the same treatment in the fall.

[rovingmind]

well his disassembly pics are from 2004 and i havn't heard back from him yet.  They are probably buried or already finished. 

Lucky bugger on the upright

Cool.  He can probably help you out if he's so inclined.  I have an upright that's going to get the same treatment in the fall.

[rovingmind]

Would somebody please measure the insets of the panels around (what i'm going to call for clarity) the circumferance?

Then i could fire up the Cad and start dimensioning with what i have for reference photos.

[GAtekwriter]

I absolutely LOVED that sit down version... at my arcade, they had the volume cranked so loud you could hear R2D2's chirps across the rooms.  Maybe someday I'll consider doing a dedicated cabinet like this one.  I do hope you'll post pictures when you get it done.

Jim

[rovingmind]

http://arcadeguy.com

This fellow is the gentleman who took the time to scan his cabinet for the artwork.
I'm going to attempt to stitch his photos together. 

Good lord i hope my machine can handle the task.  They are full-size. 

Is the cockpit artwork out there?  That multilayered design would make it really hard to scan.

[rovingmind]

Don says hi, hes currently working on re-scanning his cockpit

http://arcadeguy.com

This fellow is the gentleman who took the time to scan his cabinet for the artwork.
I'm going to attempt to stitch his photos together. 

Good lord i hope my machine can handle the task.  They are full-size. 

Is the cockpit artwork out there?  That multilayered design would make it really hard to scan.

[Level42]

"Rogue leader.......I'm currently tailing a cockpit..........hold your breath and watch your scanner...........

[rovingmind]

"Rogue leader.......I'm currently tailing a cockpit..........hold your breath and watch your scanner...........

Copy that Red Five,  Standing by

[ChadTower]

I'm surprised I've never seen a MultiStarWars cab... sure, two of the flight games are vectors and one is a raster, but you see plenty of people playing vector games on a raster.

[rovingmind]

The only one I saw was online as an upright

[Zeppo]

Well, if I won the auction, then I would be happy to help out with whatever pictures or measurements you need.
This cab is located about 20 miles from me, so I could go pick it up, but I don't think I'll be able to afford it.
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.
If not lots more.

[SavannahLion]

It will probably go for about $1500 or so.

Please don't make me cry. They took away R2D2 just down the block. 

[SithMaster]

you guys get points for the star wars quotes.

[rovingmind]

the inability to afford an original is why i've been collecting parts and reference photos.
*sigh*

Good luck to you

Well, if I won the auction, then I would be happy to help out with whatever pictures or measurements you need.
This cab is located about 20 miles from me, so I could go pick it up, but I don't think I'll be able to afford it.
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.
If not lots more.

[modessitt]

I will be doing a major repair job on a Star Wars Cockpit (it's beautiful, too) that a customer owns.  He had about 40 games in a warehouse that I do about 4 every couple weeks and take them to his software company's breakroom.

Don't know how long I'll have the game - and I won't be able to take it apart - but I might be able to take some pics and overlay measurements on them.  You can check out the Joust cocktail pics I've done to see how I lay out the measurements.

Not sure of the timeframe, but will be less than a month before I get it in the shop.  Doing a Tempest, Tron, Spyhunter, and Space Panic for him at the moment.  They're hurt bad.

So - it'll take a few weeks but it'll happen.  I'll try inside pics and measurements, too, if I can.  Pics are easy.  Measuring, then editing photos takes a while.

[ChadTower]

So just get really good pics, take the measurements, and let someone else do the editing and the rest of it.

[Patent Doc]

Modessitt

You are my hero...I've been trying to get measurements of this cab forever.  If it is not too much to ask...as the cab has many angles, when you take the measurements, please measure the distance to each point on the cab from a reference corner so the angles will be correct (I'm assuming you may not have a protractor to measure each angle).  This would be as opposed to just measuring the perimeter distances, width, and length.  Thank you so much for this future effort.

PatentDoc

[rovingmind]

The majority of the outer panels are flat pieces and from interior shots they are not routed into the large side panels.  If the outside edges were measured and written on a photo of that panel along with the amount each corner was inset from the outer edge, plans for the entire cabinet could be drawn up accurately with autocad without dissassembly the cabinet.

the only panel that would need detailed measurement and parts removed to do so would be the one that the bezel goes over, along with its depth from the cockpit edge.

The seats are just plain rectangles to measure and insets would be fine for that.  All the internal braces could be figured after the panels were drawn in.

If you were able to get these measurements, I can start making an actual cab plan in autocad.

The bevel angles for the flat panels can all be calculated. 

That would leave just the plexiglass as the hard part to get right.

The only part that I would like to see photographed individually and measured is the inside of the canopy rib, but that could be calculated from its contact with the other panels if the cabinet isn't getting taken that far apart.

Any help you are able to give will be greatly appreciated and the drawings will get posted to Jakobuds site if he wants them, or mine for free download.

I will be doing a major repair job on a Star Wars Cockpit (it's beautiful, too) that a customer owns.  He had about 40 games in a warehouse that I do about 4 every couple weeks and take them to his software company's breakroom.

Don't know how long I'll have the game - and I won't be able to take it apart - but I might be able to take some pics and overlay measurements on them.  You can check out the Joust cocktail pics I've done to see how I lay out the measurements.

Not sure of the timeframe, but will be less than a month before I get it in the shop.  Doing a Tempest, Tron, Spyhunter, and Space Panic for him at the moment.  They're hurt bad.

So - it'll take a few weeks but it'll happen.  I'll try inside pics and measurements, too, if I can.  Pics are easy.  Measuring, then editing photos takes a while.

[modessitt]

No prob.  I usually do refernce measurements (so many inches down from this spot, then 90 degress out this many inches to the point needed) so people can get as accurate a measurement as they can.  I assume you want these in standard and not metric?

As I will have to pull the monitor as part of the repair (it's toasted) I will have plenty of access behind the bezel.  What about behind/under the seat and such?  As well as wheel placement and spacing from the floor and such.  As I pointed out in the Joust Cocktail thread that I've supplied pictures and measurements for, I tend to to give more information than originally asked (very detailed) only because, if I've had to go to all the trouble to get the game where I can measure one thing that was asked for, I might as well measure everything so I won't have to pull it out again.

I'll only have the cab for a week or so, and hope to start posting pics the day after I get it so that y'all can ask for more details of specific areas while I still have it.  When I'm ready to start posting pics, should I just add them to this already-getting-long thread, or should I start a new thread entitled "Star Wars Cockpit Measurements!!!!" ?

[ChadTower]

Start the new thread.  Make it blinking neon orange with an air raid siren.  Make sure this gets some attention.

[rovingmind]

If you don't mind post them on flickr in as high a resolution as possible as well, that way we're not limited by any file size

The more dimensions the better I always say.  That way their is less need for fudgeing or error.

If you can get dimensions of the base box that would be great.

I can use standard or metric

If your going to take measurements in standard I use feet-inches-sixteenths with the added on phrase of "and a bit" to cover half a sixteenth

1-6-8 would be 1' 6" 8/16 (used to do some roof truss design and manufacturing)

whichever method is easiest for you would be fine.

[saint]

Space is available if anything needs hosting

[polaris]

new thread , wiki , main site under cabinet plans, a full scale example delivered to my house, all good

[shorthair]

You might try peter hirschberg:

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/arcade/gameroom.htm

[rovingmind]

I havn't attempted contacting him yet although he has a completely mesmerizing arcade.  I so want to go there and waste quarters by the bucketful. 

I've been trying to contact people who have one that needs repair or have one that is not in an arcade setting.   I figured they would have the best chance of being able to get dimensions.

You might try peter hirschberg:

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/arcade/gameroom.htm

[rovingmind]

Photos wanted in as high a resolution as possible


straight on photo of the two parts that make up the side individually with a yardstick either beside them or laying on them, it doesn't matter if the stick is covering the artwork because this is for dimensioning,

(although the more photos of the artwork the better)


same with the front and back of side of the canopy piece

same with the front side of the panel under the bezel,

photo of the coindoor side panel with its dimensions from the edge.

         If we can get the panel measurements already discussed we can get a working set of plans for this made up for all of us to use. 

[CheffoJeffo]

Props again to modessit -- that's a nice thing to do!

 

[rovingmind]

I wouldn't be able to deliver a full scale example to your house but i can send you a finished file in the end to print out cutting templates with.

For my own purposes my plan is to have a printable cutting template for the panels to cut out of luan, to use as a guide for my router

new thread , wiki , main site under cabinet plans, a full scale example delivered to my house, all good

[rovingmind]

Props again to modessit -- that's a nice thing to do!

 

 

[polaris]

I wouldn't be able to deliver a full scale example to your house

why not, how much effort have you put in to seeing wether you could , you havent even asked where i live?

never get one in my little british house anyway not after mine (when i build it) and the obligatory pink cab (yes i have a daughter) but cheers and good luck with it.

[rovingmind]

because, any that i build are all MINE ... mwuh hah hah hah haaaaa,
yeah, pink cab, i'm going to have to do that too. although maybe a light shade of purple
daughter is 6 months old and just fascinated with computers and pocoyo

I wouldn't be able to deliver a full scale example to your house

why not, how much effort have you put in to seeing wether you could , you havent even asked where i live?

never get one in my little british house anyway not after mine (when i build it) and the obligatory pink cab (yes i have a daughter) but cheers and good luck with it.

[SavannahLion]

You might try peter hirschberg:

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/arcade/gameroom.htm

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy. That's in his house?!   

[shorthair]

Holy ---Cleveland steamer---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy. That's in his house?!   

Dude, check these out. HG even did a show on one of em:

http://www.jeffsgames.com/links.htm

[ChadTower]

Holy ---Cleveland steamer---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy.

 

[rovingmind]

the epitome of retro arcade, or just way overboard. 

I will be happy with 3.


( of course i say that now, and have an idea in mind for a fourth.... I could mock up a foam mold and make a one off version of the first coin-op video arcade machine..........)

[rovingmind]

the epitome of retro arcade, or just way overboard. 

I will be happy with 3.


( of course i say that now, and have an idea in mind for a fourth.... I could mock up a foam mold and make a one off version of the first coin-op video arcade machine..........)

http://www.designhappy.com/trivia%202001/Slide%20Pages/Game%201%20a.htm

[SithMaster]

http://andysarcade.de/data/picseries/sw_restore/overview.html  have you asked him.

[rovingmind]

http://andysarcade.de/data/picseries/sw_restore/overview.html  have you asked him.

yep, i posted his link earlier.   I havn't heard back from him.  According to his website his is still in pieces awaiting time to do the restore, although the picture of his arcade shows one in use.

[rovingmind]

After attempting a couple of times to stitch arcadeguys pictures together on my computer, i had to give up because of gynormous files sizes and scaling issues.  (laptop died and i don't have adobe photoshop on my work computer with a bulk percentage scaling plug-in)

I just spent the morning playing with tape scissors and 4x6 printouts of his scans and discovered why nobody has made repro artwork from them yet.  They are missing sections.

What this boils down to is:  I can reference the side panels from the pasted pic but not the 3-layer canopy beam. 

I have to spend the next week moving furniture and goods into our new house and painting and other fun stuff.  Hopefully i can find my engineering scale in the process.

[horseboy]

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy.

SavannahLion, you seem to really be bucking to take ChrisG's place as my sig quote. 

[SavannahLion]

I could mock up a foam mold and make a one off version of the first coin-op video arcade machine..........)

How funny, I gave that idea some serious thought not too long ago. I dropped the idea because while it's reasonably easy to form some fiberglass, or even better, give it a modern look with carbon fiber (my brother used to rebuild auto bodies), I simply don't have the artistic talent to carve a foam mold without detailed dimensions to work off of. Maybe once I get the garage cleaned out and the raw materials needed for the process, I might bring the idea alive again.

I was even considering a really retro look by painting it in a metallic green that was so prevalent during the 70's.

[rovingmind]

I would cheat and get my father-in law involved

if you've seen a factory ram-air hood scoop on a 2004/2005 dodge, or 80% of the product line sold under the brand name GOOD HOOD for sport trucks you've seen his work

he's also responsible for most of the molds libbey glass used in the late 60's early 70's

[NickS]

Yes i'm new, Yes i've searched this forum.  No i have not found any link to drawings of a starwars cockpit.

I've collected the wonderful side scans from the unclean caga.  I've printed out the original manual along with grabbing any photo of the cockpit i've come across while surfing.  I have my bezel and cpo, and have been drooling over the repro control yoke thats in design and presale.  I finally have a garage to work in.

Has anybody drawn up plans for this wondrous thing? 

I would, but i have no access to an original and havn't seen one in person for years.
I can piece together the sideart scans as reference using the printed cabinet length and height, but need dimensions on the internal woodwork to make accurate Cad drawings.

 I dont want to fudge it.

This is great project you are attempting and I wish you success with it. I would love to build one myself. I always save as many pictures of them I find on the net. There have been a few restorations documented and sometimes the ones sold on ebay have plenty of pitures. There is one ebay at the moment with a few pictures.

Regarding the artwork. There have been 3 different groups who have produced it. Classicarcadegrafix until they closed. Mamemarquees now produces them and has them on their website.

http://www.mamemarquees.com/starwars-cockpit-sideart-p-402.html

These would probably both have used the same art files. Which probably originated from http://www.arcadecollecting.com/caga/unclean/ and have been worked on to improve them.

Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork and he has been working on it for a couple of years but he has his own equipment and his work is superb. He has also successfully reproduced the curved perspex at the back of the cockpit. He has posted a couple of restoration guides for the cockpit but I have not been able to find them when I just checked. He also talked about it being quite straight forward to repro the whole cabinet.  He is a very nice guy and if he has the time I am sure he would like to help. PM me for his email if you want it. He often posts on RGVAC and UKVAC which may also be useful sources of help for you. The VAPS site also has a long list of owners of Star Wars cockpits which may also be of help.

Scott from atarigames.com may have the orginal art files as he acquired a lot of atari items when they closed. I know he recently supplied the original art files for a repro run of the Star Wars upright side art. He may also be able to be of some help.

I have often hoped to a damaged cockpit avaliable cheaply to take apart and use as a template and although they come up from time to time I have not been able to do so.

Next to Star Wars I have also wanted to build an exact Dragons Lair. A couple a years ago I bought set of templates the cab for about $50 and they were superb. There is a discusion of it here http://www.dragonslairfans.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=224.
I have often hoped someone would produce similar templates for a cockpit as i know I would certainly buy a set. I wondered if that if you are successful in this project, is it something you might be interested in?. If a few of us put in some money we may be able to buy a cheap damaged cockpit and make templates from that. Just an idea, a lot of work but great to have.

Good Luck and I hope you are successful.

[rovingmind]

I havn't compared the scans from the caga to arcadeguys yet since both image sets came from don's cab but i'm going to have to do that now.  At don's site (arcadeguy.com) the images do not stitch together completely. 

( i did the ole print and tape this morning and ended up with a botchy cockpit picture about 2' by 3', definitley a fun timewaster at work)

I've seen the artwork reprints for sale but at the moment (buying a house and all the fixins that entails) i dont have any cash to put toward that until there is something to put it on.

There is a fellow in europe with one dissassembled already but i havn't been able to get ahold of him.

Everybody putting money in to purchase a cockpit to carefully dissassemble and trace sounds like a great plan but, once again at the moment my money is going toward paint and carpet and kitchen.  All i would be able to offer is time to dissassemble it and make the patterns.

If anybody else thinks this would be a better idea i'm all for it and have both tools and shopspace.

I do plan on making patterns out of 1/4" luan for myself once i can get an accurate Cad plan made.  Anybody that wants them will be welcome to the cad files once they are complete to print out their own cutsheets.

My goal for this part of the project is to get both plans, and pattern sheets available.
Since i have to ask for help on this i figured it was only fair to put them out for everybody to use.

(my final goal is to have my own cabinet)

[rovingmind]

This Archer McLean?

http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MACLEAN.HTM

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Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork and he has been working on it for a couple of years but he has his own equipment and his work is superb. He has also successfully reproduced the curved perspex at the back of the cockpit.
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[NickS]

This Archer McLean?

http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MACLEAN.HTM

Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork and he has been working on it for a couple of years but he has his own equipment and his work is superb. He has also successfully reproduced the curved perspex at the back of the cockpit.
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Thats the one. He used to have around 150 games in his collection and several cockpits which he has taken apart and rebuilt.

One thing I forgot to mention. Classicardegrafix recently put their art collection up for sale and a few of us here clubbed together to buy the files. Although I do not have my set yet I am sure I can get you a copy of the files they used in time for your project. It would be the same set that mamemarquees use. Let me know if you are interested.

[rovingmind]

One thing I forgot to mention. Classicardegrafix recently put their art collection up for sale and a few of us here clubbed together to buy the files. Although I do have my set yet I am sure I can get you a copy of the files they used in time for your project. It would be the same set that mamemarquees use. Let me know if you are interested.

I saw where they had sold the collection but havn't been on this forum long enough to have been a part of it.
I am definitely interested in the files.
Is it to late to be part of that club?

[SavannahLion]

One thing I forgot to mention. Classicardegrafix recently put their art collection up for sale and a few of us here clubbed together to buy the files. Although I do have my set yet I am sure I can get you a copy of the files they used in time for your project. It would be the same set that mamemarquees use. Let me know if you are interested.

I saw where they had sold the collection but havn't been on this forum long enough to have been a part of it.
I am definitely interested in the files.
Is it to late to be part of that club?

Ask in this thread Fozzy is the ringleader
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62823.0

I'm on the U.S. circuit so I'm still waiting for contact. So actually getting the data might take a while because of so many people involved and the physical movement of the drives. Just as well, I haven't purchased the needed drive yet.

[modessitt]

Okay, had to deliver a couple pinballs to San Antonio today, and when you get a couple hours to think about stuff.....

I'm going to manipulate the repair schedule to get my boss to let me pick the thing up from the warehouse on a Thursday or Friday, afew weeks from now.  This will allow me to stay after work to do a partial disassemble (take off seat, speaker grills, etc.) and take some detailed pics.  Then I can print out photos at home and bring them back up on the weekend to measure and write notes on the pictures and get it put back together before my boss comes in on Monday.  After all that, I can start editing the pics to show the measurments.

Since the bottom is the only constant straight edge throughout, I plan on basing almost all reference point measurements from the bottom cabinet edge, not the floor.  I will take as-straight-on-as-possible pics of each side, full back, full front, full top, and (hopefully) full bottom view.  I will also take multiple close up pics of as many things that I can get to without breaking it apart with a hammer, including any inside bracing or cross members I can access.

I will post High-Res pics offsite with a link in the thread, as well as pics adjusted to fit here for those who don't need high-res pics to get their info from.  It has been suggested to place a yardstick or some such item in the pick for some to use as a scale reference.  I may create a separate set of select pics with an overlying grid with a set scale for proper scaling.  If my measurements are accurate enough, this might not be needed, but it could prove crucial to some to accurately plot any curves.

I will post here when I get the game in the shop, then start the new thread within a week when I get the pics ready.

Now..... quit drooling on your keyboard......  

[rovingmind]

 

I missed the buy-in

[rovingmind]

You sir are a gentleman and an arcade fanatic.

I humbly await pictures.

Now i need to go get a 5 gallon drool bucket.

By the time the pictures are posted i should have all the house stuff moved and have the workspace in my new shop setup ready too go.

Okay, had to deliver a couple pinballs to San Antonio today, and when you get a couple hours to think about stuff.....

I'm going to manipulate the repair schedule to get my boss to let me pick the thing up from the warehouse on a Thursday or Friday, afew weeks from now.  This will allow me to stay after work to do a partial disassemble (take off seat, speaker grills, etc.) and take some detailed pics.  Then I can print out photos at home and bring them back up on the weekend to measure and write notes on the pictures and get it put back together before my boss comes in on Monday.  After all that, I can start editing the pics to show the measurments.

Since the bottom is the only constant straight edge throughout, I plan on basing almost all reference point measurements from the bottom cabinet edge, not the floor.  I will take as-straight-on-as-possible pics of each side, full back, full front, full top, and (hopefully) full bottom view.  I will also take multiple close up pics of as many things that I can get to without breaking it apart with a hammer, including any inside bracing or cross members I can access.

I will post High-Res pics offsite with a link in the thread, as well as pics adjusted to fit here for those who don't need high-res pics to get their info from.  It has been suggested to place a yardstick or some such item in the pick for some to use as a scale reference.  I may create a separate set of select pics with an overlying grid with a set scale for proper scaling.  If my measurements are accurate enough, this might not be needed, but it could prove crucial to some to accurately plot any curves.

I will post here when I get the game in the shop, then start the new thread within a week when I get the pics ready.

Now..... quit drooling on your keyboard......  

[modessitt]

So long as I get a copy of the finished plans.      Who knows?  Maybe I'll even find someone who can cut panels for me someday!

[rovingmind]

nc code file to be handed to somebody with a cnc router........

[ChadTower]

That's a lot of effort.  Thank you for your time, we appreciate it.  I will be extremely interested in the results.

I don't have my fileset yet either but I was also in on the initial group buy of the artwork.  If the cockpit stuff in there is usable I can help out with that.

[rovingmind]

well i've been playing with mame for 4 years now and that particular machine is what got me into it in the first place.

Now i have the space to actually work on projects and that is my white elephant.  I havn't even had the space for a regular arcade project before.  I have the wifes OK as long as the house stuff is taken care of so its game on.

I'm going to do  this a cocktail and a duel standup not in that particular order.  I have lots of time during the day at work since i have lots of time to work on the starwars cab files even if i'm not going to be building it right away. 

I'll probably build the cocktail first.

as for the cnc file i don't have the machine but you guys that are interested in them should check out cnczone

I could wait for somebody else to offer the plans but my hands are getting itchy.  I'm not a programmer so i figure i could at least help out everybody else who wants one.  Once plans get drawn up the hard part is done.  Might as well return something to the people who make it possible for me to play.

That's a lot of effort.  Thank you for your time, we appreciate it.  I will be extremely interested in the results.

I don't have my fileset yet either but I was also in on the initial group buy of the artwork.  If the cockpit stuff in there is usable I can help out with that.

[rovingmind]

yayyy
my drafting tools have been found

[SavannahLion]

I missed the buy-in

Sorry, I didn't spot that last posting.

[Zeppo]

The ebay auction sold for $2700 and my highest bid was only $1600.

Good luck on getting yours made!

[rovingmind]

well zeppo, you can always make your own.

wait for the plans and take the dxf file to somebody with a cnc router.

I havn't added it up but i'm thinking it will take about 5 4x8 sheets to make this cab maybe 6.

The only part i don't have any ideas on is the tinted canopy.  I havn't looked into that yet.  There was a mention earlier about a fellow who had arranged to have some manufactured but he's in the UK.  I'll look into that when the time comes.  Maybe i'll just make it myself.  Heat and bend tinted plexi with a mold.

[JoyMonkey]

I'll try and get the artwork web gallery updated with the Star Wars cockpit artwork soon, there's a bunch of useful reference photos in there too that might come in handy.

[rovingmind]

I looked at the filesets again on jakobud (it has been awhile) for reference as to how to post this project.  His drawings are basically what i was thinking about for construction drawings.

I will still post the dxf files also. 

I might be able to get Adobe Illustrator files as well if i can talk a friend into it. 

[SavannahLion]

Well, if I won the auction, then I would be happy to help out with whatever pictures or measurements you need.
This cab is located about 20 miles from me, so I could go pick it up, but I don't think I'll be able to afford it.
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.
If not lots more.

Just a heads up, the auction ended back on the 15th and the cab went for $2,775.53 with a recommended shipping option of $430.   

[JoyMonkey]

I got the gallery updated with the Star Wars artwork files. Lots of stuff to drool over here:
http://artwork.joymonkey.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=26&catid=17

[JoyMonkey]

Now that I think about it, I could probably load the artwork files into a graphics package and get some fairly accurate measurements of the side panels. It'd be interesting to see how close these measurements are to Modessitt's measurements of the actual cabinet.

[ChadTower]

Dammit now I really want to build one of these, but then that leaves me with the standup SW to do something with.

[JoyMonkey]

I'll take it!

[JoyMonkey]

Just to check out the artwork file dimensions, I gave this a quick try.

I opened the full-size 300dpi artwork image and vectorized the outer shape (shown by the pink outline in the pdf). Then I'm getting decimal measurements of all the sides and tweaking the overall shape very slightly so the measurements conform to standard fractions - for example the top right section shows the rough decimal measurements, I'll move the corner point a little bit to get both those measurements to hit 6" and 6.5" evenly.

The smaller piece is definitely wrong, the artwork file doesn't show the outer shape of that frame.

Again, this whole thing could be wrong - the only way to tell is to measure the actual cab. Figured I'd see how this goes anyway.

[rovingmind]

if you look at the blown up picture

http://www.arcadeguy.com/gameroom/scans/rsec5b.JPG

it looks like the artwork doesn't go completely out to the edges of the cockpit.  There seems to be a strip of black painted wood shown that appears to be somewhere between 1 or 2 inches.

Still awesome that we have the artwork to use.

Mayhap artwork setback measurements would be needed also then? top /bottom /left / right for the large panels?

The beam's artwork is inset, that would just be a matter of trimming to fit.

[rovingmind]

Dammit now I really want to build one of these, but then that leaves me with the standup SW to do something with.

And keeping both wouldn't be an option?   

[JoyMonkey]

Yep, the black border around the artwork varies between 1" and 1 1/4" in places. The file I used is pieced together from scans of the full panels, and that 'artless' black portion of the panel is included (other than the smaller inset pieces). It's only like this for the major side pieces though; the frame with the inserts was probably dis-assembled for scanning so the overall shape of the frame isn't in the scan.
Here's a low-res copy of the assembled side-scans (the original version of this file if ginormous!).

[SavannahLion]

I got the gallery updated with the Star Wars artwork files. Lots of stuff to drool over here:
http://artwork.joymonkey.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=26&catid=17

Is that the artwork from that drive coming from um... too sleepy to remember the name of that website. 

[ChadTower]

Yes.

[rovingmind]

 

 i'm getting all giddy with excitement.

grrr to bad i can't look at joymonkeys gallery yet.  Darn work servers and there restrictions  .

[ChadTower]

You'll be able to see thumbnail/reasonably sized versions.  You'd have to have a login to be able to download the full sized versions, at least for now, unless he has changed that for this particular artwork.

[JoyMonkey]

You'll be able to see thumbnail/reasonably sized versions.  You'd have to have a login to be able to download the full sized versions, at least for now, unless he has changed that for this particular artwork.

I haven't changed the access restrictions, so guests still only see the low-res water-marked versions of everything. I'm not sure if I'd be able to give guests access to select full size images; but I'll have my elite group of web technicians look into it. Probably won't work and I'll end up breaking everything though.

[ChadTower]

Given the size and the amount of bandwidth that would suck up, I'd just say put them someplace else and let certain people get them.  Or let one person outside the group have them and distribute them as they would.  I wouldn't recommend trying to be any sort of distributor of this stuff.  Too many worms in that can.

[rovingmind]

my work webserver bans anything that is related to games.  I'm actually surprised i can get to this forum.

joymonkeys artwork page gets autobanned.  

I want to see the low-res but have to wait until i get home, dig my computer out of its various boxes, move some furniture around to set it on, call the cable company, find my router, yada yada yada

(   just because i spent some time at r*mnation.net then introduced my coworker to it and he tried to grab it all, THEN he went on to surfing all flash game sites he could stumble upon.  sheesh )

[rovingmind]

just let everybody drool over the low res 

[ChadTower]

Great deal on a cockpit in KC.  I would buy that faster than I could do something really fast.

[rovingmind]

i here you. 

theres also an upright cab on ebay

link

although he only has 3 feedbacks

thanks to bfauska for showing me how to shorten the links properly

[ChadTower]

The standup actually isn't that hard to get.  It's hard to get cheap but if you're willing to pay going rate they're out there to be had much easier than most other vectors.

[rovingmind]

yeah but............

the stand-up isn't the white elephant     

[SavannahLion]

i here you. 

theres also an upright cab on ebay

link

Pretty lame that he would make a point about the side art/paint issue, but not even bother posting a pic of it.

[modessitt]

Still waiting on an opportunity to pick up the cab...

Ran across these photos showing the difference in artwork between a US released cockpit and an Ireland cockpit and thought y'all might be interested.

In this photo, you can see that the "marquee" behind the seat is back-silkscreened onto glass/plexi in the US version on the left, and is a mylar sticker on the outside in the Irish one on the right:



Don't see much difference here between the US one in the back and the Irish one in front:



This shows the side views.  Notice that on the US one on the left, Darth Vader's arm and profile is out-lined in yellow, while the Irish one on the left is out-lined in red:



Although both the Irish on the left and the American on the right suffer from the "snapped back-door" syndrome:

[Zeppo]

What causes the back doors to break?

[SavannahLion]

How is the Irish one held together? Biscuit joints? The U.S. looks like it sports screw holes which seems to be holding up better. The Irish version looks like its sagging.

[rovingmind]

ok  just an update on what little progress i'm doing.

The new hard drive is installed in the laptop and it has been resuscitated.  I now have to try and remember the name of the free cad program i was using on it since i lost ALL data and programs.

the tote of keyboards and cables is still MIA somewhere in the shop.  Removal of all the house stuff from the shop is progressing slowly.  Hopefully i will find the tote before the dimensions get posted.

I brought home an olympic sized ping-pong table this weekend.  Just love the free stuff.  I'm going to use it as a lay-out table for a full size drawing.

[rovingmind]

How is the Irish one held together? Biscuit joints? The U.S. looks like it sports screw holes which seems to be holding up better. The Irish version looks like its sagging.

Is it just me or does the irish canopy look pieced together also?

Just a thought on the door breakage-  Possibly pulling by that slot to move the cabinet?  I could see it if the door was MDF.


might be worth (depending on inside clearance) adding a sandwich brace to that spot?

[ChadTower]

My guess is from the weight of the whole cockpit when someone tried to move it with a hand truck in that spot.

[rovingmind]

Yeah but they have about 4" wheels on the bottom.



shouldn't need a hand truck.

[ChadTower]

Stairs/trucks/docks/etc.

[rovingmind]

uncaring workers

i second that theory.

must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

[SavannahLion]

must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

[rovingmind]

must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

modified quote from movie regarding experiment 626 (lilo and stitch)

followed by stitch saying " i like fuzzy "

[SavannahLion]

must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

modified quote from movie regarding experiment 626 (lilo and stitch)

followed by stitch saying " i like fuzzy "

I thought maybe it had something to do with H. Beam Piper.

[JoyMonkey]

I've played the Irish version (at Mosney Atari Center and Curacloe beach arcade) and the American one (at Funspot, NH) and can confirm that they are both indeed awesome. The Irish one was much more awesomer though; probably because I was five and it was my lifelong ambition to be either an x-wing pilot or a fireman, or both.

[rovingmind]

i wanted darth vaders tie fighter

if i knew how to program i would make an empire attack version to fly around shooting the x-wings

edit*

or the millenium falcon

[modessitt]

Glad everyone is enjoying those pics like I thought they would...

The Irish one seems to have had a harder life, with cabinet wear and scrapes evident on the lower back.

I am most interested in the "marquee" as the one on the US version is much more attractive.....

Also, I wonder if the yellow/red thing is a US/Europe thing, or if it was for the left/right as we're seeing opposite sides here....

[rovingmind]

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.




I thought maybe it had something to do with H. Beam Piper.

now i'm actually going to have to read his work.  I don't remember it but its on archive.org

[SavannahLion]

Also, I wonder if the yellow/red thing is a US/Europe thing, or if it was for the left/right as we're seeing opposite sides here....

The sample picture JoyMonkey has shows a red outline.

[modessitt]

In case anyone was interested in the cockpit for sale in KC recently for $500, someone on KLOV e-mailed the guy and got pics.  Here they are:

[ChadTower]

That's a great starting point for a project at $500.

[Zeppo]

yeah, I'd jump on that.

[rovingmind]

ok, from a money  stand point i can see why an arcade operator would paint the cab and swap the stickers to keep a game in play and money rolling in if the original boards died.

Why paint the plexiglass though? 

[ChadTower]

Is it plexi or wood?  Can't tell from that pic, the plexi may have been broken over the years.

[rovingmind]

it looks to still have the original curve.  I cant see them taking the time to do finish work on panels with that crappy of a paint job.

[rovingmind]

made it to home depot today and picked up a large roll of paper ostensibly for taping of the kitchen and living room for painting.  A portion of it will be set aside for this project.  More stuff was removed from the garage making more projet space available. 

[modessitt]

If you're in Australia, or have a ton of money, there's one on E-Bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Star-Wars-rare-original-vintage-sit-in-Arcade-Machine_W0QQitemZ270115727582QQihZ017QQcategoryZ154QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's one of the pics:

[Havok]

That guy is on crack.

[rovingmind]

It would be nice to get a copy of that cockpit manual though.  I had one downloaded but i don't remember where i had gotten it from, and that computer crashed.

[ChadTower]

I don't think the cockpit manual would be that different, if any, than the standup manual.  The boardset/controller/power supply/etc are all the same.  The only difference is that a small % of the cockpits have a 25" monitor.

[rovingmind]

i have printed the standard manual, the cockpit manual just shows more of the layout for original components.

[modessitt]

Anyone gonna go into shock over this photo?   

[rovingmind]

shock no...... drool yes........

Ultimate star wars lan party

[JoyMonkey]

This one must be a collectors wet dream...

[ChadTower]

Yech.  Unless that sucker has some functional differences, it loses all cool, I wouldn't want that over a regular one.

[HoopstarsGarage]

Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork

Arch's repro's will NOT be silkscreened but will be very high quality inkjet repro's - but based on his previous inkjet work, it will be amazing.. 
That said, he has estimated that the full set of artwork with be around the $600-$700US mark 

Scary how much I know about all of this really


Hoops

[ChadTower]

$600 is very, very ouchy.  Too ouchy for me.

[rovingmind]

I can piece the cab together without over upsetting the wife, but yeah, $600 for the artwork wouldn't sit very well.   Might have to hijack the plotter at work.  Maybe print out as high a resolution as possible then clearcoat it

[ChadTower]

And if it came out acceptably, make a couple of sets to sell for small profit here to offset your own cost.

[rovingmind]

the plotter at work is an HP 1055cm+
600dpi by 600dpi color

I'll have to see if i can get access if i can get useable art files

[modessitt]

Heard that Archer won't be producing any art for a while.

Seems he:

a) broke his foot
b) moved to Chicago (job tranfer?  marriage?)

Hear everything is in storage in the UK still and he will have to make arrangements to get it all moved across the pond at some point.

So we can all stop holding our breath....

[modessitt]

Oh, yeah, speaking about holding your breath....

Don't want to get anybody's hopes up,  but I may be picking up that Star Wars cockpit later today or tomorrow....  along with a Lunar Lander and Gravitar.  Have to do the Lunar Lander first to maximize the time the cockpit is here.   

Better start charging the batteries in the camera..... 

[ChadTower]

Holy CRAP that's a great set of games.  I don't think I'd leave the room for 48 hours, even to pee.

[JoyMonkey]

Gravitar's got my most favouritest cabinet artwork ever.
Intersting tid-bit about Gravitar; the game concept came from Mike Jang, the same guy that did a lot of the cabinet design for the Star Wars upright and cockpit cabinets (and a handful of other classic Atari cabs).
I'm a wealth of seemingly useless info.

[Level42]

Anyone gonna go into shock over this photo?   

Well considering there were only 2450 made, there's a fair percentage of the total there.....doesn't look like an Atari storage place though ?

There is a small possibility I will lay my eyes on a real one this weekend.....

[ChadTower]

Well, if we have our way, maybe we can add 5 or 10 to that production total. 

[Level42]

Doesn't count....not the real thing

I wonder if that 2450 includes the Irish built cabs....

I wonder if the one I'm hunting is Irish. It is most likely of course....we'll see...

[ChadTower]

If we don't come up with quality repro artwork for a price we can stomach, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with new artwork for a whole lot cheaper.

[rovingmind]

If we don't come up with quality repro artwork for a price we can stomach, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with new artwork for a whole lot cheaper.

personally on a home built repro cab i would have no problems with making my own artwork designed off of darth vaders tie fighter or the deathstars coloring

[modessitt]

Anyone gonna go into shock over this photo?   

Well considering there were only 2450 made, there's a fair percentage of the total there.....doesn't look like an Atari storage place though ?

There is a small possibility I will lay my eyes on a real one this weekend.....

This is a picture from an article about an auction a while back,

Here is a link to the whole article, although it doesn't mention anything about the Star Wars cockpits....

http://arcarc.xmission.com/Arcade%20by%20Title/Starwars/c&vgfeb881.jpg

[modessitt]

 

Who's excited?

Right now I have a Star Wars cockpit in the back of the truck (along with a Gravitar and TWO Lunar Landers).  The artwork is not as good as I remembered.  It's all there, but there are a couple spots with scrapes.  Hopefully you can use other sources to fill them in if needed...

The bad part is I don't have a lot of time this weekend, but I'm going to have the game for almost a week (at least) and will definitely be able to find time to get the measurements done.  It is missing it's back door, so I will probably have to create one (doubt it will be angles like the Tron door hough).  It also has the Amplifone monitor, so the pics will show the proper mounting placements for those boards.  If you plan on using original Color X/Y's, the mounting may be different for the WG 6100's.

I will post a token pic here later tonight (just to prove I've got it) then will post once more here to alert everyone to the upcoming new post "FINALLY!  Star Wars Cockpit Cabinet Measurements".

So, by next weekend, this should finally be done and everyone can start planning, converting, and building!

 

[ChadTower]

Niiiiice.  If I had a SW cockpit in the truck I'd find a way to post from the road too.   

[rovingmind]

I'M OFFICIALLY EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  

That gives me exactly one week to get my workspace set up.

[modessitt]

Well, I DID take a pic, but had a late delivery and left the camera at work.  I   'll post it tomorrow...

The cabinet has a small bit of damage on the very bottom corner behind the seat on the player's left.  As both sides are the same, I will base my measurements off of the right side and y'all can just mirror it for the left.  In fact, I will do this for both sides, just measure the right, except to get the proper placement and size for the coin door on the left.

I've also noticed that the canopy rails are composed of 3 separate pieces connected together, with 3 pieces of t-molding underneath and one large piece on top.  I will remove the canopy and seat assemblies to get accurate measurements, as well as document how they go together. 

The art on the sides of the canopy are inset into beveled shapes.  The sides are angled into the shapes so that the flat area with the art is slightly smaller than the outside edges.  I will attempt to get accurate measurements of both the inside and outside so y'all can judge the proper angle between the two sizes.

I don't know how long it's been since anyone sat in one of these, but I'm 6'1" and found it a bit cramped for my legs when sitting in it.  Hmm....modify the plans a bit to get a little more room?  Dunno....

Don't know if it was because of the camera or not, but remember the images of the US and Irish ones.  Remember how one had red trim and the other yellow trim around Darth Vader?  Well, this one has orange trim...

I know I'm going to measure the wood where the bezel and CP mount, but what about needing measurements of the bezel and CP itself?  Or will pics be okay?

Pics probably won't be posted until sometime Fri or Sat of next weeek.

If anyone has any other comments, suggestions, ideas or concerns before I get started, let's hear them.....

[rovingmind]

I have a control panel here to measure off of so you don't have to worry about that.

 My bezel is for an upright though and somebody here had mentioned that they were different than the cockpit version somehow.  I don't remember exactly what the difference is.  Something about the bottoms.

The mounting board for the both of them would be nice.  The pictures of the torn apart cab online showed it having a few cut-outs and angles.

Some basic dimensions of the bezel would be nice if you have the time, I'm wondering if the upright's bezel could be modded to work with the cockpit.  If its just a matter of length i could make a fiberglass copy and add in the extra inch or so.

[polaris]

I'M OFFICIALLY EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  

That gives me exactly one week to get my workspace set up.

me too, whens mine being delivered? 

good luck with it

[scotthh]

Here's a cockpit on ebay. The seller in Longmont, Colorado (not me) says he has "lots of high resolution pictures I can send upon request"

[Havok]

So who's getting the pics and posting them here?

[ChadTower]

That one has the 25" amplifone... niiiiiice.

[rovingmind]

So who's getting the pics and posting them here?

Modessit is doing a resto on one and hes going to post them in a new forum and link from here when he has them ready.

[rovingmind]

Here's a cockpit on ebay. The seller in Longmont, Colorado (not me) says he has "lots of high resolution pictures I can send upon request"

and did you request?

[modessitt]

Well, it looks like my estimated posting of pics will be delayed until after this weekend.  I'm hoping to take some pics while it's all together Thursday and then get up there to take it apart and take more pics Sat or Sun (and get it back together before the boss gets in Monday).  Then it will just be a matter of adding measurements to the pics and getting them posted.

Unfortunately, this will not be a restore, but a repair.  The customer is not interested in the cosmetics, only that it works perfectly.  It's not ugly, but anyone else would probably take the time to fix the minor issues.

Been trying to think of a way to talk the boss into letting me bring it home and "work" on it here.  Then I could get the pics done in no time!

Finished the two Lunar Landers today (they look and play great!) so will have some room now.

BTW... here is the pic I took of it the other day in our messy and crowded shop.  It's a little blurry because I was in a hurry and didn't want the boss to see and ask why I was taking a picture of it:

[rovingmind]

Hooray 

[melarky]

I've been collecting parts for a star wars upright (waiting to find one I can measure or find plans from someone else on these boards).  I have the plastic bezel and the metal control panel for the upright, but it sounds like the bezel is different for these cockpits.  Is the metal control panel the same though?

I will probably still wait to make an upright (don't think I could fit another cockpit), but if these plans get done first (which it looks like they will) I may change my mind and I wonder what parts I have that will need to be re-bought/re-found...

[HoopstarsGarage]

Is the metal control panel the same though?

The Control Panel IS different between the upright and the cockpit versions.  Firstly the upright version has tighter angles bent into it (meaning it can't easily be modified to fit the cockpit) and secondly the graphic overlay on the upright is different to the cockpit - not a big deal but a difference none the less and not yet been repro'd.. 
The fact that only about 2500 cockpit versions were made means that when one is parted out, the unique parts like the control panel fetch stupid prices.. 

It is also these unique parts (control panel, bezel, canopy and canopy joiners, vents, speaker grilles, marquee retainers etc) that would make scratch building a cockpit an expensive exercise.  The bottom line is you are either going to build a replica which is going to cost a LOT of money - possible as much (or at least close to) the real deal or something that "approximates" a cockpit version.

My opinion is that I would rather build an upright which is going to be cheaper and look MUCH better than a half-assed cockpit version..   



Hoops

[NickS]

I think there is a difference but you are still able to fit a UR panel and bezel into a cockpit. Of course a scratch built cokpit could even be customed to allow this.

A friend of mine has said he was able to use an upright cp on a cockpit he is restoring. I also found a link on RGVAC regarding this http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.arcade.collecting/browse_thread/thread/69336418a4f4dd64/f7224b5b5ae8e08f?lnk=gst&q=star+wars+cockpit&rnum=18#f7224b5b5ae8e08f

[ChadTower]

A CP is just simple sheet metal.  New ones could be fabricated without tons of effort.

[rovingmind]

The Control Panel IS different between the upright and the cockpit versions.  Firstly the upright version has tighter angles bent into it (meaning it can't easily be modified to fit the cockpit) and secondly the graphic overlay on the upright is different to the cockpit - not a big deal but a difference none the less and not yet been repro'd.. 

This is good to know.  I don't know which machine my control panel came off of.  Do you know the angle they were bent at?  If its just a matter of angle i could use mine for the outline and have one bent to the right angle.

Maybe Modessit if he has time can get a photo of the cpo? (only if he has to take the controller apart as part of the repair, not asking him to dismantle it if it doesn't need it)

It is also these unique parts (control panel, bezel, canopy and canopy joiners, vents, speaker grilles, marquee retainers etc) that would make scratch building a cockpit an expensive exercise.  The bottom line is you are either going to build a replica which is going to cost a LOT of money - possible as much (or at least close to) the real deal or something that "approximates" a cockpit version.

Those are very good points for anybody trying to recreate a cabinet.  With the bezel/control panel out of the way, could you provide more info on the canopy joiners?  The canopy i have ideas on recreating.  It has been successfully reproduced in the past.  The vents and speaker grilles i would have no qualms about substituting something else.  I'm going to be using volfenhag automotive speakers in there anyway.  Rectangular cieling grills are what i'm looking at using to cover them.  Wouldn't the marquee retainers be part of the cabinetry and inset  like a picture frame? 

In the end my cabinet will be an approximation/knock off.  All i can hope to accomplish is to get the cabinet itself to match the original.  In the process put dimensioned plans out there for anybody who wants them

My opinion is that I would rather build an upright which is going to be cheaper and look MUCH better than a half-assed cockpit version..   



Hoops

Good on ya, I would also.  Thats why I am not mocking one up from snapshot photos.  Any reference material/ photos/ or accurate dimensions you can help provide would be very appreciated.

[rovingmind]

A CP is just simple sheet metal.  New ones could be fabricated without tons of effort.

You are quite correct.  If we know the proper angle a bending die could be made from FRP and used in a standard 2ton shop press.  that would give it the slight curve instead of a crease.  A plasma cutter would do the outside angles and the center cutout, a simple jig could be made for that.  The other part is a piano hinge.

[polaris]

cockpit
thought id pop this one in here for the sake of it.
4 grand, no pics, 0 feedback.
anyone?

[Havok]

cockpit
thought id pop this one in here for the sake of it.
4 grand, no pics, 0 feedback.
anyone?

Holy crap! 4000 pounds, that's 7,950 US dollars! That thing better come with a chick that looks like Carrie Fisher (not the original - she has really let herslf go) in the slave girl outfit for that price!

I would want to hear a "What is thy bidding master" every freakin' morning for that price...

[polaris]

Holy crap! 4000 pounds, that's 7,950 US dollars! That thing better come with a chick that looks like Carrie Fisher (not the original - she has really let herslf go) in the slave girl outfit for that price!

I would want to hear a "What is thy bidding master" every freakin' morning for that price...

i think 4 grand is probably a market price , there'd be a lot less about, i could imagine it being twice the price in the uk compared to the us , everything else is

just a bit mad hes got an opening bid , no pics no feedback.

[ChadTower]

For 8 grand she better be a hell of an upgrade from 1982 Carrie Fisher.

[Dudeman]

Adrianna Lima in the slave girl outfit.

[NickS]

cockpit
thought id pop this one in here for the sake of it.
4 grand, no pics, 0 feedback.
anyone?

That is being sold by the infamous J.T. and the bid is almost certainly not genuine.

J.T. is the Del Boy of the arcade business here in the U.K.. He dresses in gold suits like the lead singer of ABC and talks like a cockney market trader. He is real character but still thinks he is living in 1984. But there again it was a great year.

[SavannahLion]

cockpit
thought id pop this one in here for the sake of it.
4 grand, no pics, 0 feedback.
anyone?

That is being sold by the infamous J.T. and the bid is almost certainly not genuine.

J.T. is the Del Boy of the arcade business here in the U.K.. He dresses in gold suits like the lead singer of ABC talks like a cockney market trader. He is real character but still thinks he is living in 1984. But there again it was a great year.

Is that the guy that's supposed to have every version of a Star Wars cab ever produced then rents them out to parties or some ---Cleveland steamer---? Siphons so much "fame" that he appears on TV and his web looks like it's produced by a U.S. money making scam firm?

[Fozzy The Bear]

cockpit
thought id pop this one in here for the sake of it.
4 grand, no pics, 0 feedback.
anyone?

That is being sold by the infamous J.T. and the bid is almost certainly not genuine.

J.T. is the Del Boy of the arcade business here in the U.K.. He dresses in gold suits like the lead singer of ABC talks like a cockney market trader. He is real character but still thinks he is living in 1984. But there again it was a great year.

Is that the guy that's supposed to have every version of a Star Wars cab ever produced then rents them out to parties or some ---Cleveland steamer---? Siphons so much "fame" that he appears on TV and his web looks like it's produced by a U.S. money making scam firm?

Hey!!! You know him already!!     He's also the guy that sells crappy quality reproduction Star Wars costumes and props at HUGELY inflated prices around the Star Wars conventions and has been banned from three of them in the UK already.  What a 

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[Fozzy The Bear]

For 8 grand she better be a hell of an upgrade from 1982 Carrie Fisher.

Hey! Chad... Here's your upgrade model... Her Name's "Christie" in case you want to know.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[ChadTower]

She looks roughly the same level, unless that's a redhead, which is worth bonus points.

[Havok]

Here's my submission for an upgrade, and make sure to check out her gallery - DEFINITELY worth it...

[ChadTower]

Whoa dude NSFW.

[Havok]

Whoa dude NSFW.

What?  She's fully covered... If you can't handle that one, here's something more your speed...



(Star Wars Kid)

[rovingmind]

She looks roughly the same level, unless that's a redhead, which is worth bonus points.

I'd buy that for a dollar

[bleargh]

She looks roughly the same level, unless that's a redhead, which is worth bonus points.

I'd buy that for a dollar

If she's a redhead, its worth more than a dollar...

[polaris]

Hey!!! You know him already!!     He's also the guy that sells crappy quality reproduction Star Wars costumes and props at HUGELY inflated prices around the Star Wars conventions and has been banned from three of them in the UK already.  What a 

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

hows this dude so well known here Foz?

[SavannahLion]

Fozzy, I don't know why, but he reminds me so much of that ---fudgesicle--- Dion Dakis that runs NGF. That's why he sticks in my mind.

It's one of the few times I've rooted for a company instead of the individual. It just irritates me that he ass reams a company, comes out on top, sticks his middle finger up the CEO's ---auto-censored---, then proceeds to brag about it.

But I'm getting waay off topic here.

[Fozzy The Bear]

Fozzy, I don't know why, but he reminds me so much of that ---fudgesicle--- Dion Dakis that runs NGF. That's why he sticks in my mind.

You're not wrong....

He's pretty damned notorious in the UK for gutting and destroying original arcade machines, sticking PC's inside with MAME and then hawking them out to hire on corporate events. If I remember rightly the Mame Devs have allegedly pulled him about it on numerous occasions and he's still at it.

This guy looks and behaves like your worst Game Show Host Nightmare 

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[rovingmind]

She looks roughly the same level, unless that's a redhead, which is worth bonus points.

I'd buy that for a dollar

If she's a redhead, its worth more than a dollar...

its a movie line quote from robocop.   It was on almost every TV that was on screen in the movie.

[Havok]

its a movie line quote from robocop.   It was on almost every TV that was on screen in the movie.

And, in SmashTV - so it's arcade appropriate!

 

[modessitt]

Okay.  Pictures have been taken.  46 pictures to be exact.  Measurements were done.  A lot of measurements.   Took almost 4 hours.  After getting everything transferred to my laptop, it is obvious a few pictures will be to be re-taken.  A couple of art shots came out a bit blurry.  Luckily, I can re-take these without disassembling it.  I have not removed the CP or bezel and taken those pictures of the inside mounting needs.  I will do those later when I actually start the repair.  I am starting to add the measurements to the pictures and hope to have that finished sometime tomorrow (Sunday).  I will start the new post when I have finished modifying the pictures and have both the modified and unmodified pics posted offsite, with images linked to my posts.  Will probably be many posts initially, so be patient.  The new post will be called "FINALLY!  Star Wars Cockpit Measurements".  It will be posted in the "Main" forum, unless it is requested to place it in a differend subject, such as Projects or Woodworking.  There will be a few disclaimers in the beginning, as well as comments with each pic, so read everything to make sure you understand it all.  I will have the machine for another week or so if I need to get any other pics.  Just remember that I can't take this thing completely apart, so some measurements will be approximated as closely as possible. 

I know everyone is getting excited.  I'm kind of tired myself.  But I will get it done.  Just be patient.

[ChadTower]

Take whatever time you need, I just highly appreciate the effort being put in.   

[modessitt]

Pics and posts are up!  Did this thread just die?

[rovingmind]

Pics and posts are up!  Did this thread just die?

Nope, just had a busy weekend.

[rovingmind]

Here's a cockpit on ebay. The seller in Longmont, Colorado (not me) says he has "lots of high resolution pictures I can send upon request"

and did you request?

If anybody else is interested I requested his higher resolution photos.  not willing to photo post them since they aren't mine but i'll zip and email to those interested in this project for reference material

[rovingmind]

Pics are up.  Dimensions are getting taken and posted.

For those worried about it.  The cutt angles of the flat panels for the outside can be calculated based on their position in the cabinet.   Moddesitt does not need to waste time by taking a protractor to them.  Reference photos currently available of the various angles show the panel overlaps.


For those concerened with the radiused edges a proper radius will be given based upon what most closely matches when plotted out full sized, compared to original photos and drawn in with a french curve.  if you don't know what a french curve is don't worry about it. 

[ChadTower]

Awesome.  This project rules.

What intrigues me the most is those beveled overlaid pieces on the sides.

[rovingmind]

heh ROUTER  woot!!!

[ChadTower]

Oh I know that, but there are a lot of measurements to take there, and the inner corners on those bevels just add to the work I'd assume.  Would you do those in four pieces and join them or just bevel out a single piece and chisel out the corners?

[rovingmind]

Oh I know that, but there are a lot of measurements to take there, and the inner corners on those bevels just add to the work I'd assume.  Would you do those in four pieces and join them or just bevel out a single piece and chisel out the corners?

If your talking about the bevels on the inner cutouts on the canopy beam, i'd make a single router template for the outside and the inside knockouts.  Pick out a decent taper for the insides and use a guide bushing, use a flush trimming bit for the outsides.  Calculate the offset for the inside edge and let the beveled bit do the work.  smooth out the sharp corners with a chisel and rubber mallet.

[ChadTower]

I'm talking about on the sides of the cab, where the sideart is.  The raised panels, or maybe overlaid panels, that are black.

[rovingmind]

I'm talking about on the sides of the cab, where the sideart is.  The raised panels, or maybe overlaid panels, that are black.

I've zoomed in on a few of the photos i have and i dont see a raised panel or overlay there.  I think i saw someone mention that the edges of those are beveled also though.  That could be  a neat trick to duplicate.

[NickS]

I'm talking about on the sides of the cab, where the sideart is.  The raised panels, or maybe overlaid panels, that are black.

I've zoomed in on a few of the photos i have and i dont see a raised panel or overlay there.  I think i saw someone mention that the edges of those are beveled also though.  That could be  a neat trick to duplicate.

I think he means these bits.

[ChadTower]

Yep, that would be it.

[rovingmind]

yep thats what i'm calling the canopy beam.  then my earlier post fits,  router and template with chisel to make the inside corners sharp where needed.

link high res photos of the colorado guys cab

only time im going to link these and the link will go dead in one week since they are not my photos.  I
I posted them for reference for this project only

[rovingmind]

Ok to keep from flooding Modesitts dimensions post i'm going to post any and all design discussions here since they can get a bit carried away.

Where we are right now is a small modification to the bottom box to allow the entire machine to be broken down into three sections to make it easily stored/ moved/ dissassembled.

There are no proposed images of this change yet but visibly there shouldn't be any noticible changes to the exterior barring possibly an extra pair of bolts if neccessary for stiffness on the canopy beam ends.

[rovingmind]

still waiting for some dimensions but i had to start somewhere, organic model just to look at vertice locations.

[polaris]

im sure this has been said, but a full wiki on this is a must if your cool with that, seems your going to eventually compile a full how to build on the cockpit so itd be great for others, it has to be the ultimate project, and along with david at ram's work , its such a possibility now.
so looking forward to mine being delivered 
keep up the good work fella

[rovingmind]

I don't know if i would have the time for a full wiki.  Anything i am able to provide here is more than welcome to be added to it though.

I hadn't thought of doing a full how-to build it set.  Just complete parts diagrams and patterns for the complex side panels.

If somebody else wants to take the finished cutting files and put them into a how-to build it set provided free to the community thats fine by me if its fine by the people also helping with this great project.

with 3d models of the various panels, exploded views showing the part layouts would be easy enough to make.

[ChadTower]

Yeah, if he makes the build plans, that's way more than enough.  I would possibly be willing to make a build write-up in the future once I have the project bandwidth and have more experience with cabinet building itself.

[rovingmind]

proposed modification to the base, allowing the cabinet to be easily split for transport and storage.

This would make it 4 pieces, (the bases are INSIDE the bottom, shown lower just for viewing the shape), attachment guide pins, bolts, and bottom casters not done at this time, this is just a rough draft not to scale.

You would have the two cab sections, the single intact canopy section, and the footboard.

Comments guys?

For purists, both plan sets will be part of the finished drawing, this to be as an alternate.

[polaris]

didnt mean to seem demanding in saying that , just praising the effort, and saying its a project that'll be worth a full wiki due to its popularity.

[rovingmind]

didnt mean to seem demanding in saying that , just praising the effort, and saying its a project that'll be worth a full wiki due to its popularity.

no problem, i agree with the wiki, i just won't have the time to do it.

[modessitt]

Okay, got some time coming up this weekend to take some more measurements....

As far as the removable canopy.... remember that the only thing connecting the two sides is a single crossbar that goes between the plexis.  This probably won't be sturdy enough to keep the canopy rigid enough for easy removal.  it may be nexessary to add small crossbars at both ends for extra support.

Just a thought....

And I need to get you some photos of how sit-down racers join their seats to their bodies.  Got a couple in the warehouse....

[rovingmind]

yep, i was wondering how rigid that would be if the sides of the plexis were screwed in, a thin metal bracket could be made to go under the outer ends of the plexiglass, right where it goes up against the cabinet.   By using metal the ties could be small enough to be almost indistinguishable once its put together.  Something on the order of 1/8" steel strap, it could sit right on top the main cab pieces possibly in a routed channel?

Have to look into that once the main pieces are done to scale. 

It would be easy enough to leave them out and fasten the whole thing together like an original.

I would appreciate photos of the sit-down racers.

[ChadTower]

That's getting into an area that the regular cab builder will have difficulty achieving.

[rovingmind]

That's getting into an area that the regular cab builder will have difficulty achieving.

 

 isn't the whole project starting in that area?

I'm looking at (for myself) having to build a sheet metal brake out of 2*6s to make the seat piece (originaly extruded aluminum i've been told) and possilby a new control panel, and a couple of the marquee brackets and such.

They could have a metal shop form the pieces easily enough.  If they decide to build this they will have to have one make some of the parts for them anyway. 

That being said......

A thin cabinet brace could be cutout (like the one at the top of the bezel shape wise) of 1x4, this would most likely rest on top of the seatback without actually being bolted to it.  It should provide enough rigidity
that only the seat end would need it if the middle cross brace gets doweled and epoxied.  That would work out well for those with limited metal working skill and wouldn't take up much internal space.  Of course the option to not do any of the mods is always available and just make a giant solid cab.

[modessitt]

I guess on thing I didn't make clear in my explanations of the pictures, is that the plexi doesn't attach to the canopy at all.  The end with holes of the flat plexi screw down to the panel above the bezel on the rear body of the cab.  The end of the angled plexi screws to the seat portion behind the marquee above the speakers.  The other ends of the plexis meet in the middle on the crossbar.  They aren't held down by screws, but rather by the metal bracket that screws to the crossbar.

Just more pictures I need to take to show how that happens.

By the way, the angled metal bracket on the front of the seat.  Not sure how that attaches, as there are no obvious screws holding it in place from the outside. 

Since I've got a 3-day weekend coming up, I can find some time to get over there and take some more detail pics.  Shouldn't take as much time since I don't have to do hardly any disassembly for what I still need to do.  Supposed to do some work on it next week, so I'll be taking off the bezel and CP to access the monitor, and should be able to get some pics of that.

[rovingmind]

I saw that in some of the reference photos. 
Its actually a good thing to clear up for everybody else whos watching this project.

The canopy itself is a beast ( i refer to the entire thing beams and all ) and everybody who has posted about a restore mentions how hard it is to get the thing off and how many screws hold it together. 

The original shape of the beams themselves won't be modified to make the canopy removable.  At the moment a few screws and a single support board are the only expected additions to the canopy. These would be easily left out to have the original hard screwed parts.

I was just thinking that a few screws along the edges and a pair under the metal strip along with a thin strip of felt or rubber to cushion the plexi against the canopy beams would make it a single piece.  Black trim screws with a finishing washer under the head would be a sano install option. 

For those worried about the way this discussion is going this would be part of the Alternate options only.  I'm doing the original panels first then looking at how to make a separation point for the breakdown cab.   

[HoopstarsGarage]

The angled seat bracket is indeed made from extruded aluminum and probably one of the more difficult pieces to replicate.  Unfortunately my wife has taken our digital camera to work so I can't snap any photos just yet.. but here is a ROUGH diagram of how it "works" - there are NO screws or bolts holding it in place.. 18mm MDF slips in with a nice firm fit and the angles of the seat and bottom speaker panel hold it from being able to be removed...



This part was originally anodized (black) to resist wearing off as paint would..  to that end, I would suggest making the part from 4mm aluminum and having it anodized..

Hoops

[rovingmind]

I don't have the funds to have that part replicated exactly and i have never seen one come up on ebay.

 Are we possibly looking at a cabinetry grade piece of fitwork here in white oak or ash? 

Maybe two pieces of aluminum plate bent to the correct angle bonded (welded/epoxyied) to a center section?  It isn't that hard to get a piece of aluminum bar machined down.

It might actually end up being the type of part that Ram Controls could make and sell with the Yoke possibly?

I could replicate it at home in sheet steel and send it out for powdercoating.

Must think about that now.

Thanks for the headsup Hoops

[ChadTower]

There has to be another way to do that without the highly machined anodized part.

[rovingmind]

There has to be another way to do that without the highly machined anodized part.

It wouldnt actually be highly machined, just extruded and polished.  Whoever decides to make it properly better be ready for a couple thousand feet of extrusion sitting around though.


The easiest way (still achieving a high quality cabinet) would be to use a piece of hardwood and rabbet into it.  A couple of dowels, some wood glue, some high gloss paint.   Like the corner on some cabinets.  It would be made with a table saw and dado blade or table saw and router. 

[HoopstarsGarage]

i have never seen one come up on ebay.

That's where I got mine from.. just a couple of months ago now - total price was a tad over $30 including freight down under

Here is a photo of the angle piece..  a little different to how I drew it but you get the idea 



EDIT: Let me know if you want any other shots of this...


Hoops

[ChadTower]

I wonder if some other similar more standard cabinetry part could be substituted with a little mod to the plan.

[rovingmind]

hey hoops can we get some dimensions on that? length of the flats and thickness of the material?

[polaris]

ive got an idea for this bear with me ill try n draw it, i cant explain it well enough.

[polaris]

ok an idea for you, youre talking about extruding the piece.

[polaris]

would 'u' shaped extruded aluminium be available somewhere , or could it be folded possibly into a u shape
get two u shapes join(weld?) at the blue points, then get a flat piece and join at red points to the two 'u's'

it wouldnt look the same internally, but would externally and would perform the function. i lack the knowledge in machnining etc so its just a thought

[polaris]

hmm looking again the flat piece at the top would not actually be flat if you did it that way.
if it was a flat piece it would sit where the green line is and would not be the same shape.
the top piece would need to be slightly u shaped too ( the pink line) to make the exact shape
just wondering overall if the metal sheets could be bent easily into the shapes as opposed to the extrusion method for the one piece.

[modessitt]

hey hoops can we get some dimensions on that? length of the flats and thickness of the material?

The outer sides are 1" wide, as noted in one of my pics.  Separation would be probably 3/4" due to the thickness of the wood.  Inner sides also look to be 1" wide.  Thickness is probably 1/16"  or 1/32"

[HoopstarsGarage]

hey hoops can we get some dimensions on that? length of the flats and thickness of the material?

No problems..  All measurement are in millimeters.. cause it way more accurate




I'll be measuring and photographing all the other metal parts including the control panel and updating all the info to my website - I'll keep you guys posted.


Hoops

[rovingmind]

thank you,

Looking at that i'm thinking my cab is going to have to have a milled piece of hardwood for a while.  I'm not looking at having it extruded.  I dont have the funds.  Although i might make it in steel and have it powdercoated.  That i could do.

[rovingmind]

hmm looking again the flat piece at the top would not actually be flat if you did it that way.
if it was a flat piece it would sit where the green line is and would not be the same shape.
the top piece would need to be slightly u shaped too ( the pink line) to make the exact shape
just wondering overall if the metal sheets could be bent easily into the shapes as opposed to the extrusion method for the one piece.

The double angle top flat would the first piece, the 90 degree bottom would be the second leaving a milled flat for the third.  Tacking the flat to the double angle would be first. then after that was welded the bottom piece would be jigged in place and tacked.  Nice and simple and as durable as the original and made to the originals dimensions.

[Dudeman]

Couldn't you just buy some flat steel and weld that?

I'm not that good of a welder, but I can grind like a mo' fo'!

[rovingmind]

Couldn't you just buy some flat steel and weld that?

I'm not that good of a welder, but I can grind like a mo' fo'!

Sure you could.  The important thing is not how you get to the finished product, just that it meets the originals dimensions and strength.  If you had an aluminum welder you could do the same with aluminum strap. 

I was just pointing out how i planned on making it.

[Jakobud]

I never did come across a Star Wars cockpit to measure up.

[HoopstarsGarage]

OK guys.. this is probably a little pre-emptive but I am a little excited..

I have secured the entire SWC cabinet profile - with this and modessitt awesome measurements, we are well on our way to transferring all the measurements and angles into a CAD file..





Once this is done, I will be having the panels cut with a "point-to-point" CNC router and then comparing them with the original (and make any necessary adjustments etc) - in short, this should ensure the most ACCURATE dimensions of this great cab ever..!!  I will post all files as soon as I get them complete - please give me some time on this..!!!

I also have all the metal parts for this cab (ie. speaker grilles, vents, canopy joiners, marquee retainers, etc) I will also transfer them to CAD including all the angles etc so they can be replicated by budding SWC builders..

[rovingmind]

now all we need are the panel setback dimensions.

[ChadTower]

Awesome.

[modessitt]

now all we need are the panel setback dimensions.

I know, I know.... Sorry.   Real Life has been intruding and taken a lot of my free time.  Still have the cab, so will get it done eventually....

[rovingmind]

now all we need are the panel setback dimensions.

I know, I know.... Sorry.   Real Life has been intruding and taken a lot of my free time.  Still have the cab, so will get it done eventually....

I wasn't trying to be pushy or picky, i know all about real life intruding.  At the moment, i'm taking the transmission out of my jeep, need to replace control arm bushings in the wifes cherokee, and am in the process of painting the kitchen (next the living room, dining room, bedroom). 

new house woes along with overdue vehicle maintenance. 

[BrentRadio]

Star Wars control panel on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atari-Star-Wars-Arcade-Game-Control-Panel_W0QQitemZ300119841270QQihZ020QQcategoryZ13718QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Not mine.

Brent

[saint]

Bandwidth and space available for whomever needs it for this project - just email and ask

[ChadTower]

Is that a cockpit or standup CP?

[rovingmind]

Bandwidth and space available for whomever needs it for this project - just email and ask

thank you

[rovingmind]

Is that a cockpit or standup CP?

for the controller part it doesn't matter. 

[ChadTower]

No, but I have two yokes, I'd need a CP.

[rovingmind]

 

and i dont even have one yet...

ignoring that outburst now, oooh dueling cockpits?

[ChadTower]

Well, to be fair, one is on a standup currently.

[rovingmind]

Thats cool you can end up with both.  Do you have a game room to hold everything? 

[ChadTower]

Not yet, soon hopefully.  I wouldn't want both, so if I built a cockpit, the standup would be sold.

[rovingmind]

Not yet, soon hopefully.  I wouldn't want both, so if I built a cockpit, the standup would be sold.

I would keep the upright myself, because my cockpit is going to be powered by emulators and it wouold be awesome to have an original.  Plus i finally have room to store things as long as the wifes projects get completed too.

[HoopstarsGarage]

Is that a cockpit or standup CP?

Stand up..

The overlay graphics on the stand up version continues all the way to the bottom of the CP where as on the cockpit version the graphics stop at the last bend in the panel - you can actually see the part number on the bottom right hand corner for the cockpit version..

To the best of my knowledge, the cockpit CPO has not yet been repro'd and is not part of the CAG set.  I do have a photo of the upright overlay on a cockpit cab and IMO it actually looks better..






Hoops

[BrentRadio]

Just an FYI...

I just got word from Steven at ArcadeShop that he will be doing another run of the Star Wars marquee overlays with the correct size (the old ones were 1/4 inch too short in width) in the next few weeks.

Pre order now so these get made quickly!

I just ordered mine.

Brent

[JoyMonkey]

I've been sort of out of the loop on all this, but I'm trying to figure out where all the latest info is and condense it into an easy to swallow wiki page:
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/w/index.php?title=Star_Wars_Cockpit

Hoopstar mentioned that Modesitt's dimensions were a little off in places (mostly due to the rounded corners and the assembled cabinet making it difficult measure). Does anyone know which points in particular were most off?

[HoopstarsGarage]

My plan is to fully dimension this cabinet with all angles and measurements from the "real deal" that my project is based from..

Unfortunately "real life" has got in the way and stalled not only this portion of my project but also the replica cabinet.  Hopefully when things slow down a little, I can update this thread with the CAD drawings..


Hoops