Author Topic: Anyone have a Centipede/DigDug/Tempest MINI Cabaret cabinet? (Read 9856 times)

MameFan · « **on:** April 10, 2003, 03:43:09 pm »

A while back I posted asking for dimensions on a Ms.Pacman cabaret cab. I still would like those (or ones from ANY midway cabaret except the original PacMan which had significantly different [read: ugly] sides)

In any event, along with building a Midway cabaret, I am planning on building another cabaret modeled after the Atari mini cabaret line used in the Centipede, DigDug and Tempest line. By far it seems most people own a Tempest cabaret, followed by Centipede. These were unique in having 19" monitors in them instead of 13".

Does anyone here have one of these 3 mini cabarets and would be willing to dedicate about 15 minutes, a tape measure, a protractor (angles) and some note taking to get me some detailed measurements in order to reproduce one like it?

Thank you in advance if you can help. I've googled tons of things but havn't found detailed specs (or even general ones other than overall width/height/depth).

rampy · « **Reply #1 on:** April 10, 2003, 04:26:54 pm »

do you think this guy would be nice enough to give you dimensions or no?

http://www.geocities.com/craftsmanforhire/gamecabs.htm

rampy (once you get passed all the script errors on the page)

l8nite · « **Reply #2 on:** April 10, 2003, 08:41:51 pm »

I'm picking up a dig-dug cabinet on Saturday, I'll measure it over the weekend and post here the dimensions.

Shaun

MameFan · « **Reply #3 on:** April 10, 2003, 08:45:42 pm »

Shaun --

So long as it is the mini cabaret version (5' tall x 18" wide) not the full version (6' tall x 24" wide) that is great news!

THANK YOU very much in advance!!!!

Private message me with the info (or post here), and if there is anything missed, I will let you know. I can probably draw up a template of measurements I need.

Rampy --

That web site guy doesn't even have an email address?

(specifically says so). Plus I doubt he'd be willing to give up his trade secrets

If I cant find it elsewhere I may snail mail him (since he seems to have both of what Im looking for--Midway MsPac comming up, plus Atari cabarets too).

MrArcade · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:00:52 am »

I have a Centipede mini cabinet. Someone stole the pcb out it at the auction when I bought it...

MameFan · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:21:02 am »

I'm sorry to hear that MrArcade... was that one of the recent "dorag" auctions I read about on rgvac?

I have never had the opportunity to go to an auction as I'm 300 miles northwest of Minneapolis, so there is a wasteland here...no games to speak of for the most part... that's why I am needing to build a couple to house some of my boards.

Would you be willing to get some measurements? Appreciate it in advace, greatly!

paigeoliver · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2003, 02:29:51 am »

If none of those pan out, then I have an Artic Mini in my bedroom. It takes a 19" monitor, so it would be as good a cab as any to repro.

Generic Eric · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2003, 02:53:21 am »

Quote from: paigeoliver on April 11, 2003, 02:29:51 am

If none of those pan out, then I have an Artic Mini in my bedroom. It takes a 19" monitor, so it would be as good a cab as any to repro.

Man, that sounds great! See, I am apartment folk I would love to have one of those mini's!
If you ever get some time, I know I would appreciate those dimensions, and angles too.

Thanks

paigeoliver · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:15:02 am »

I'll have to get a protractor? for the angles. But it is a great cabinet. Same one as in this picture.

Mine is a bootleg King & Balloon (Artic made lots of bootlegs), with only 700 plays on the coin meter. It is currently in the process of getting converted to MAME. Since it was a bootleg anyway, and was missing the PCB. Its original monitor, power supply, and transformer are going to help get my dedicated Radar Zone going.

Generic Eric · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:22:43 am »

Quote from: paigeoliver on April 11, 2003, 03:15:02 am

I'll have to get a protractor? for the angles. But it is a great cabinet. Same one as in this picture.

Mine is a bootleg King & Balloon (Artic made lots of bootlegs), with only 700 plays on the coin meter. It is currently in the process of getting converted to MAME. Since it was a bootleg anyway, and was missing the PCB. Its original monitor, power supply, and transformer are going to help get my dedicated Radar Zone going.

Cool. Whatever I end up making, it will have to be small. That looks like a good candidate.

paigeoliver · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2003, 03:29:01 am »

One issue. Before I measure. If mounting vertically (It can go either way), Then the monitor has to go in without the frame on it. That is the only way it fits. The original monitor in it just had the tube bolted in with the monitor boards mounted to the side of the cab. The tube to my Wells Gardner VGA monitor bolted up to those same holes luckily. But I did have to take it out of the frame.

Generic Eric · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2003, 04:09:42 am »

Quote from: paigeoliver on April 11, 2003, 03:29:01 am

One issue. Before I measure. If mounting vertically (It can go either way), Then the monitor has to go in without the frame on it. That is the only way it fits. The original monitor in it just had the tube bolted in with the monitor boards mounted to the side of the cab. The tube to my Wells Gardner VGA monitor bolted up to those same holes luckily. But I did have to take it out of the frame.

Well, to be quite honest, I am going to try to do as much as I can in a small cabinet, without it looking tacky. What I am after is the general style. I like how that cab "bucks out" from the coin door to the CP. I also like the angle from the top of the back to the peak where the marquee is. Basically, I am after the external dimensions. The interior, I will end up working out myself I imagine.

Perhaps another person would have some input on that though.

Thanks

MrArcade · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2003, 06:05:43 am »

The first cabinet I built was a space saver....
http://home.woh.rr.com/ultimatearcade/marki/marki.htm
It was a Taito mini Colony 7.

I think they are very nice mini's...but not a 19" cab.

I put a 15" pc monitor in it.

planetjay · « **Reply #13 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:35:25 pm »

Funny thing is.... I already measured a Tron Mini. And JelloSlug is supposed to be producing plans. But I sent the measurements July 18, 2002 so I figure he's busy. Real Busy. I'll ping him via email and if he's not done I'll email you what I have or post somewhere.

planetjay · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2003, 04:38:31 pm »

JelloSlug says he working on it again. Maybe we'll have it soon!

l8nite · « **Reply #15 on:** April 13, 2003, 03:48:03 am »

Well, I did all the measurements and came back here to post and re-read the original title (insert homer 'doh!' here). Sorry, it was a full-size, not a mini $:-\$

Shaun

Carsten Carlos · « **Reply #16 on:** April 13, 2003, 05:56:17 am »

Quote

Well, I did all the measurements and came back here to post and re-read the original title (insert homer 'doh!' here). Sorry, it was a full-size, not a mini

Even worse, all measurements for a Centipede/DigDug upright are on my homepage for a year now, since one did this job for me before!

Sorry, didn't mean to bug you.

Bill_S · « **Reply #17 on:** April 19, 2003, 05:52:46 pm »

I went to the local Pizza Hut for dinner today and they had a Ms. Pacman mini in there.
If you still need dimensions I could probably take a tape measure the next time I'm in there. I'm sure I'll get a few looks, but that's ok.

planetjay · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2003, 01:16:45 am »

Ok he finished. Download it now before he sells it or something.

planetjay · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2003, 01:19:00 am »

Also note that this may be copyright, etc. Also I may not have rights to post it. For that matter you may not have the right to look at it.

Spot the typo and win NOTHING!

MameFan · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2003, 10:12:26 am »

Lower Fromt

Thank you for this... That's one down (the midway cabaret), and one to go (the Centipede/DigDug/Tempest cabaret)

Thanks again!

planetjay · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2003, 01:50:02 pm »

Thank JelloSlug. He's the one that read my scribles and did the drawings. But then, he is a real engineer...

My plan BTW, is to build about 6 of them after I finally get moved. I figure:

1. Horizontal 2 player.
2. Vertical 1 player with spinner and Tron stick.
3. Horizontal with track ball.
4. Horizontal Jamma with adapters for the non-Jamma boards that I have. (Mr. Do!)
5. Horizontal driver
6. Horizonal Console Machine (Real Consoles and Console Emulators)

and maybe one double wide as a matching jukebox.

Doing this would allow more than 1 or 2 people to play. There would be no cp clutter or cp swapping. And it would just be cool to have your own custom designed arcade with all matching machines.

I also don't expect this to happen for atleast 1 to 2 years. So don't ask how it's going...

MameFan · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2003, 02:36:59 pm »

Only problem is, it really doesn't accomodate anything bigger than a 13-14" monitor (a 15" PC, PERHAPS a 17" PC would fit). a 19" arcade tube just doesn't seem correct in it, even if you could "fit" it to the bezel, and of course would stick out way the back.

But I definitely do like the idea of "distributed cabinets".. Dedicate each to having only the types of games playable in it based on controls and screen orientation. With mobos, ram, hard drives so cheap (no cases needed) you could run a Duron 1Ghz in each for under $150 in "computer" in most of them.

I'd only want to also have a 19" tube though in it if I built that many.

I'm planning on probably putting Kickman and/or Super Pacman (origianl PCBs) in mine--no mame in em.

planetjay · « **Reply #23 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:03:02 am »

My U3100 is about 14" high and 20" wide. So it would work either way. You could also add some width. Also the Tron that it was modeled after had a plastic cover that allowed the tube to extend beyond the back of the cabinet.

This isn't a blueprint. It's a guide. You have to adapt as needed for your application. Otherwise you end up with 1000 copies of lusid's cabinet.

paigeoliver · « **Reply #24 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:24:20 am »

The Artic Mini I have does take a 19" monitor in either orientation. I guess I should get a protractor (or whatever it is that measures angles), and measure that bad boy up for you guys.

planetjay · « **Reply #25 on:** May 29, 2003, 04:41:23 pm »

FYI, I measured each panel and noted the angle of them and also photographed them (poorly). Then sent them to JelloSlug and he drew them. He's busy with Real Life

Sasquatch! · « **Reply #26 on:** May 29, 2003, 09:28:33 pm »

I'm I seeing this right? Is this where the monitor would go?

(EDIT: Where are my manners?? Thanks, planetjay!)

planetjay · « **Reply #27 on:** May 30, 2003, 06:40:29 pm »

Yes. It goes there. And thank JelloSlug. I just sent him a crappy hand drawing and some bad pics. He did it all.

MameFan · « **Reply #28 on:** May 30, 2003, 08:26:34 pm »

Actually if you have a vertical mounted monitor in the correct frame, it will look like that. However, MOST Midway cabarets used horizontal mounted monitors turned 90 degrees to a vertical. However the mounts then caused it to stick out of the back of the cabinet, and thus was "protected" by cutting a hole in the back of the cabinet and installing a plastic shield over it.

Actually, PlanetJay, if you still have this cab, the drawing could use another measurement or two in order to "successfully" make. (Trust me... I have got it mostly ploted out on a 3/4" sheet of MDF, but have a problem finishing it due to a missing measurement.

Issue: The angle of the top slope (18") against the front marquee area (6") is not marked. Therefore even though the next line (12.41"/148 deg) is, it doesn't actually state WHERE the 12.41 ends.. it is somewhere above the tangent of the 5.87 radius curve, but since you don't know where, you are left with a problem figuring out the correct point. I guessed but it just didn't look right. I could possibly do it with a spline created to drag over the board, but figured I'd just go to the source

Can we get the angle of the 18 to 6 on the top measured? And/Or the tangent point (from left/bottom) of where the 12.41 line ends?

Thanks!

Also: This was from a Tron cabinet, right? That appears to be virtually identical (if not 100%) to a MsPac.

I am curious if you happen to have access to any other Midway Mini's.. I'm actually trying to repro both the Ms.Pac, but ALSO a Kickman that used the "U" shaped marquee with a much smaller (appx 3.5-4"??) header space instead of 6. Also Kickman used much sharper corners for the 2" top radius and 5.87" lower radius...probably somewhere around 1-2" for them respectively. If you had another cab to compare those few measurements I'd appreciate it!

Thanks

planetjay · « **Reply #29 on:** May 30, 2003, 11:35:13 pm »

Well... Looks like 90

planetjay · « **Reply #30 on:** May 30, 2003, 11:37:21 pm »

I forgot your second question. Right now I'm not sure that I even have access to that. But if I find anything else I'll keep that in mind.

jelloslug · « **Reply #31 on:** August 01, 2003, 12:06:04 pm »

I hate to dig up old threads from the past but I figured I could answer a question about the plans. Any angle not called out is 90


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