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Author Topic: Wii users/Star Wars fans - would a gyroscopic controller work for Atari SW?  (Read 1664 times)

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Just about to throw my Starwars yoke project in the bin.  I was trying to find a way to modify a Thrustmaster Steering wheel by threading a pipe wired to a pot through the centre of the streeing column with a couple of joysticks bolted on the ends.

Finally gave up however when it was obviously going to look seriously cr@ppy :cry:

Now I know there are a number of alternatives for the serious Starwars fan (including the upcoming and awesome looking ones from RAM), but when I finally get around to making my cab, the 2 x 1 joystick + 6 button arrangement would makes the most sense (yes it's time for the head not the heart :-\)

So as I stare at yesterday's dream/today's garbage I'm starting to wonder if there's an alternative... Now I realise that for SW there simply is no substitute, and until now I've never used anything that came remotely close, but with the recent crop of gyroscopic controllers for wii, PS3 and a the inevitable slew of PC copycats (e-dimsions G-Pad for starters) is the 'casual' SW experience on the cards?  Would the experience fit somewhere between a mouse and a real yoke?  Do the PS3 shoulder buttons look like they would work nicely as triggers?

Now I have yet to try a gyroscopic controller of any description, but there must be some wii users/SW fans who could give it their thoughts on the subject.

I wait with bin liner at the ready...

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For the casual Star Wars experience, why not just buy a Microsoft Dual Strike controller? It operates pretty much the same as the yoke, and can be had for $6 on Feebay. Plus, as an added benefit, if you ever purchase a real yoke, you can use the dual strike to interface to the pc.

While I wait for my pre-order of my Ram Controls yoke, I do just that - play the Star Wars games with the DS...

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I know it is a bit of an unusual topic, but if you would have just searched for... Wii Star Wars... you would have happened upon Howard C's thread where he wrote a script to use the Wiimote for just this purpose.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62480.0


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For the casual Star Wars experience, why not just buy a Microsoft Dual Strike controller? It operates pretty much the same as the yoke, and can be had for $6 on Feebay. Plus, as an added benefit, if you ever purchase a real yoke, you can use the dual strike to interface to the pc.

While I wait for my pre-order of my Ram Controls yoke, I do just that - play the Star Wars games with the DS...

Cheers m8 - Tried the Microsoft Dual Strike, but wasn't overly impressed with the experience Using the DS though - very interesting


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I know it is a bit of an unusual topic, but if you would have just searched for... Wii Star Wars... you would have happened upon Howard C's thread where he wrote a script to use the Wiimote for just this purpose.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62480.0

Nice one Horseboy! Again - could be a real alternative, but I reckon I might try e-dimensional's G-Pad https://edimensional.com/product_info.php?products_id=120&osCsid=d8213cb48de3780e77743633cd686dca

At £20 it would be cheaper for me as a wii owner and I reckon a little less tricky to set up.

We shall see  ;)

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This kind of product is very intuitive to me! Of course, it depends on the tracking accuracy. (Otherwise, the DS is, really, half the set-up.) Nice that they make a PC version.

BazookaJo: was the response of the DS bad, or did you just miss the dual-handed yoke?

Havok: Didn't you say something like an A-pac would be needed to interface the Ram yoke to a pc?
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This kind of product is very intuitive to me! Of course, it depends on the tracking accuracy. (Otherwise, the DS is, really, half the set-up.) Nice that they make a PC version.

BazookaJo: was the response of the DS bad, or did you just miss the dual-handed yoke?

Havok: Didn't you say something like an A-pac would be needed to interface the Ram yoke to a pc?

Hi Shorthair.

The Dual Strike wasn't great IMO - I could twist it up/down and left/right, but doing both at the same time did not feel intuative for me and lacked the 360 degree feel of the yoke (I bought the DS BTW in case I ever wanted to convert a proper SW yoke ;))

That's why I'm hoping the G-Pad will be more fluid, though it will still lack the centering of the yoke.  How this will effect the experience however I'm not sure.

We shall see...

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P.S. ignore the previous post - what I meant to say is that I'm NOT a wii owner that's why the G-Pad would be cheaper for me :dizzy:
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BazookaJo: yeah, thinking over what you said on the DS, that makes sense.  As well, on the gyro, for two reasons: you have to hold it parallel rather than perpendicular to you, and that the pad isn't fixed to something makes for easy sloppiness in this case (think the difference between free hand rifle vs on a bi- or tripod). But DS's are cheap, and since they can be used to mate a yoke, then I guess I'll get one.  Thanks.

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BazookaJo: yeah, thinking over what you said on the DS, that makes sense.  As well, on the gyro, for two reasons: you have to hold it parallel rather than perpendicular to you, and that the pad isn't fixed to something makes for easy sloppiness in this case (think the difference between free hand rifle vs on a bi- or tripod). But DS's are cheap, and since they can be used to mate a yoke, then I guess I'll get one.  Thanks.

Hey for $6 it's worth a try - let me know what you think of it (maybe it's just me).

As for the G-Pad I ordered it today - will give my feedback when it arrives.

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Okay, G-Pad arrived yesterday.

Bottom line - forget it :(  It's just not accurate enough for crosshair use.

Basically once you're out of the centre position the crosshair jiggles around something chronic, and it isn't just Starwars.  Even in the windows calibration/test screen the result is the same :(

Shame really, otherwsie it felt like a real alternative for the yoke - maybe once they fine tune the wii code, or maybe when a PC adapter comes out for the PS3 controller we'll be in business.

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