Author Topic: MY first original machine...pics (Read 7275 times)

rollerball · « **on:** February 21, 2007, 04:19:56 am »

Hey there guys...I just bought this on Ebay for a bargin price(Well I think it was a bargin)..Im in australia...has gyruss inside it...anyone have any idea if it would be a jamma??Im a total newbie to original machines...Ive got a Mame cab i built...anyone think this will be a good original cab??Im quite excited about this one....$212.50 from ebay...And Im a gyruss fan....

rollerball · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2007, 05:01:04 am »

Oh yeah and is this cab just some kind of generic cabinet??I love the woodgrain..so 80's....and later on would it be poss to ad a second button to it if its jamma or something??Ive built a mame machine but adding buttons to that is nothing...but how hard is it for a arcade cab??Like if I wanted to buy a different game for it later that needed a second button??

shardian · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:33:19 am »

Gyruss was not a jamma game. Sorry.

TOK · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2007, 08:43:35 am »

Gyruss rules! Good snag. Have you looked inside of it?

I was trying to figure out what it is based on the cab and bezel, but couldn't figure it out. When I first saw it, I thought it was a Universal cab, but now that I've looked on KLOV, its obvious its not (top rear is not cut back and area above monitor looks shorter).

This is the cab I iniitally mistook it for:

SavannahLion · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2007, 09:43:23 am »

It looks more like a Ms Pac-Man cabinet

It's a really poor angle though, I can't tell if the curve around the monitor is the same. The coin door is different too. Is it that way because the cab is from Oz or is it because it's an older cab? I've only ever seen those kind of coin slots on really old machines and those prize machines.

TOK · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2007, 09:49:28 am »

To me, it looks like the Ms. Pac is a cabaret cab and is totally different. Its a narrower cab (look at coin door in relation to cab edges), there is no vertical area at the top of the monitor, and the curve of the sides is lower.

shardian · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2007, 09:51:42 am »

I thought Taito Cab at first, but the side circular cut is too deep and the CP is wrong.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2007, 12:30:16 pm »

Since he is in Oz, I don't expect the cabinet to be a dedicated North American cabinet.

Cheers.

rollerball · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2007, 02:30:06 pm »

I havnt picked it up yet....will get it tonight maybe....as soon as I get it I will take more pics of it for you guys...So if gyruss is not a jamma game dose that mean you cant put different games on it...or a multi game board??cheers..

RayB · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2007, 02:35:47 pm »

I believe Gyruss is of the "Konami Classics" pin-out. You could swap in Juno First, Track n Field, and others of that error.

And the cab looks like a generic to me. I bet that joystick is not the correct "monroe" joystick that Gyruss needs.

rollerball · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2007, 02:41:09 pm »

I see you can get an adapet to play jamma in the "Konami Classics" pin-out.....can you get one to go the other way or not???If not a pooyan board would be cool for it...lol

rollerball · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2007, 03:03:47 pm »

Oh yeah there is instructions on the machine that says that its a Gyross machine...spelling mistake or is it a clone???And if its a clone could that be running in jamma???I guess when I get it home and take some more pics I can find out what it is for sure..

leapinlew · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:15:02 pm »

lol... you REALLY want a jamma cab don't you? Well, for your sake, I hope it is a jamma. somehow.

rollerball · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2007, 06:37:28 pm »

Sweet...seems you can get a jamma adapter....cool

spriggy · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2007, 07:10:40 pm »

Yeh... it's a generic 80's cab from OZ RB. Seen a few around in OZ, however they seem to frequent the East Coast. Haven't seen any over here in the West.

Note sure who made them. If it was LAI (leisure and Allied, the main licensed supplier for OZ in the 70's-80's), it may also be a bootleg PCB. Not only did LAI get license to reproduce their own cabs and modified artwork, but they bootlegged/hacked some of the game PCB's. They literally reverse-engineered some pcbs and made their own, hence they had their own pinouts as well. I think they ran a 22pin set-up. They can be converted to jamma easily... if it's not already.

#edit# Ahha! Still got this old link to the LAI pinout standard. 22 pin.
http://www.larwe.com/coinop/hankin.html

Good luck!

RayB · « **Reply #15 on:** February 22, 2007, 09:52:11 am »

Quote from: rollerball on February 21, 2007, 03:03:47 pm

Oh yeah there is instructions on the machine that says that its a Gyross machine...spelling mistake or is it a clone???And if its a clone could that be running in jamma???I guess when I get it home and take some more pics I can find out what it is for sure..

Anything earlier than about 1986/87 will NOT be jamma.

Rewiring a cabinet to JAMMA is really easy anyways...

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #16 on:** February 22, 2007, 09:58:36 am »

I was all excited I found you some info until I saw the price...and remembered what you paid...and realized I found YOUR cabinet!

spriggy · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:13:50 am »

Quote from: FrizzleFried on February 22, 2007, 09:58:36 am

I was all excited I found you some info until I saw the price...and remembered what you paid...and realized I found YOUR cabinet!

Ahh.. that's what you meant by the 'Gyross' thing!. Thought you mispelt it!. Damn.. I'm not sure now.. I've definately seen replicated Taito style aussie generic 80's cabs down here... but I can't be sure of this 'Gyross'

Bizarre!!

TOK · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2007, 02:44:45 pm »

It originally came with a Sorny monitor and Hopps joystick.

Gottal love the bootleg names... Gyross is bad, but maybe not as bad as the Zaxxon ripoff - Jackson.

rollerball · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2007, 03:47:34 pm »

Hey guys...I picked it up last night...all seems good...he lost the keys for it though...he drilled out the front coin door so thats ok...I need to get the back lock off...any ideas on that???He was given the machine from a friend that had an Pinball Arcade that went bust..probably late 80's...lol...and he hasnt touched it since...he has never opened the back up or anything...its in great condition....Its LOUD...screen has vertical lines going throught it for about 10mins before it warms up....will that be a bad sign at all??Or is that normal for an old machine??And I can hear a few little like electric noises from inside but only just...is that ok??As soon as I get the back open I will take a heap of pics and put them on here...

spriggy · « **Reply #20 on:** February 22, 2007, 06:03:54 pm »

Quote from: rollerball on February 22, 2007, 03:47:34 pm

As soon as I get the back open I will take a heap of pics and put them on here...

BE CAREFULL!!! $:-\$ Even though it's off and unplugged, the monitor can still hold a large residual charge. Enough to technically kill.. so don't go jamming your hand in there straight off the bat.

Do a search on Discharging a monitor.

rollerball · « **Reply #21 on:** February 22, 2007, 06:18:12 pm »

Yep I have heard about that...Im not going to touch anything on the monitor...I dont really want to touch anything on it ever apart from chnging the board...Im just going to give it a blow out or vacum and take some pics for you guys......any tips on taking out the lock on the back of the machine as i dont have a key??Drill it out or something??

rollerball · « **Reply #22 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:24:34 pm »

rollerball · « **Reply #23 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:25:41 pm »

so is that jamma or Konami board/pin-out in the pic I took?

?cheers

rollerball · « **Reply #24 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:28:49 pm »

The machine works fine....do you think this old power supply will be ok to keep???Or need to upgrade???A fire hazzzard at all??

RayB · « **Reply #25 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:30:08 pm »

Rollerball. Read what we post please.

rollerball · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:32:31 pm »

this is the monitor....should i just leave everything alone on it???Seems to be a volume control??for the sound I guess???there is a little bit of hissing and crackling comming from the monitor is that ok???Quite hard to hear it though so think it should be ok..

rollerball · « **Reply #27 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:35:51 pm »

I am reading everything you guys say...big time...spriggy said that till I get it I would not know if its jamma or not...it dosnt matter much as you say can get an adapter or rewire....cheers...and thanks for everyone that gets back to me...as I say..total newbie to original cabs....I have built a mame cab though.

rollerball · « **Reply #28 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:40:10 pm »

Cp....leaf switch on the fire button???Keep it or get a micro???whats better??4 way Joystick is all over....wont center....maybe a new spring would help...maybe just buy a new one...lol

rollerball · « **Reply #29 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:42:39 pm »

Its not going to live in here.....Inside for you soon mate...

rollerball · « **Reply #30 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:45:34 pm »

Time for a game...I took out the tinted perspex...I think it was a little too dark....will keep it incase i change my mind later

spriggy · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:03:47 am »

Alright.. Take a big breath rb.. I know your excited, but one thing at a time m8!

Your PCB is an original Gyruss, hence it's Konami Classic Pinout as RayB stated. Here's the pinout and dip switch settings.. http://www.ionpool.net/arcade/pinouts/Gyruss.txt

Buttons and Joystick? personal choice... search the forum for upteen arguments on micro vs leaf. The original gyruss sticks are nice. In general.. classics=leaf.

Get your monitor chassis checked out by a techie if your having problems. No need to change the power supply if its working

rollerball · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:09:43 am »

Thanks mate...yes monitor is working FINE...all of it is working fine....the joystick is a bit how you going But i will sort that out...Im going to get an adapter for it then so i can run a jamma multi game board....any suggestions on a good vertical multi game jamma board??

Fozzy The Bear · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:47:13 am »

Your monitor is dark, because at the very least it needs a Cap Kit.... The hissing is possibly a leakage around the HT somewhere... could be several problems there. It will get worse if you don't have it fixed now.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

rollerball · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:16:44 am »

Oh ok that dosnt sound good...or cheap..You can only hear it buzz if your ear is pretty much inside the machine in the back...The screen dosnt look dark to me...looks fine...I just didnt like the tint that much...so are you saying that a monitor sound not make any noise at all??Sorry again the newbie that I am.....and to get something like that serviced would a tv repair guy be able to service it??Im in australia not sure about arcade repair guys around here...I should look I guess

rollerball · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2007, 05:09:18 am »

Ok Ive sussed out something...Im sure someone on here will know whats going on and if its bad...I was playing the machine at night and took the back off to see where the noise was comming from...Ok well the noise is comming from the round connection thats connected to the back of the tube...and as it was dark I could see that it had sparks flying all around it like a plasma ball...about 3mm long and all around it...the screen had lines and was off center a bit....but they kept getting better over about 5mins...and by 10mins it looked great....after about 15mins there was hardly any noise and could hardly see any sparks...so is my monitor on the way out???The guy I bought it off told me it had to be warmed up and it had been like that for years...Or is that norman for an old machine...Im sure you Gurus will know...thanks in advance for everyones help

rollerball · « **Reply #36 on:** February 24, 2007, 04:32:00 pm »

MMM ok well thanks to this site I found a problem and fixed it...the sparks around the suction cup/anode was from a build up of dirt...I think...because after I cleaned the area around it and I cleaned the anode and pulled the anode fingers out a little...(After I did a discharge of the monitor of course)...there are hardly any sparks ect....and there was some sparking from down on the pcb...just little ones...and these also seem to have gone...Im only guessing but maybe thats because the full amount of power is now getting to the tube???Anyway seems to be better...

rollerball · « **Reply #37 on:** February 24, 2007, 04:35:59 pm »

Just a thought...this site is the best on the net hands down for arcade help...but I was just thinking maybe there should be different sections for mame and for original arcade machines....after building a mame and now buying an original I can see how that would make things a little easier...but still I can complian...

dirt · « **Reply #38 on:** February 24, 2007, 05:02:31 pm »

here is the adapter you want. http://cgi.ebay.ca/Jamma-PCB-to-Konami-Cabinet-Adapter-B-04_W0QQitemZ170084910151QQihZ007QQcategoryZ13718QQcmdZViewItem

rollerball · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2007, 05:30:10 pm »

Yep cheers...I got one from those guys an hour ago...lol....thanks


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