GGG inductive stick

[freckleface]

Is this stick a hall-effect stick? Is this different than the 49-way in function?  How does the inductive connect?

[Fozzy The Bear]

Is this stick a hall-effect stick?

Yes

Is this different than the 49-way in function? 

Yes... This one is 4 way or 8 way only.

How does the inductive connect?

Connects the same way as a regular switched joystick, except that you also have to give it a 5V supply as well.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[freckleface]

Thanks.  I'm guessing it connects more like a P360 vs a microswitch stick. Anyone have one of these?

[horseboy]

Thanks.  I'm guessing it connects more like a P360 vs a microswitch stick. Anyone have one of these?

Yes, but I haven't hooked them up yet.    It shouldn't be a problem, though as plenty of people around here use them. People that like them usually love them. Do a search for Suzo Inductive and you will find much more info on them. Kowal has a thread for a mod he did on them. Level42 also has a few threads about them as his ultimate goal would be to mate with one and reproduce.

[RobotronNut]

i tried a pair with kowal balltop shafts.

the joysticks ride over little bumps, as they move between the 8 positions. these interfere with the round, sweeping movements that are crucial in robotron, although others have reported that they enhance the play of some games.

you can remove the bumps with sandpaper,  but i still find the joysticks sluggish. i can not perform the movements i want as quickly or as accurately as with my happ P360s.

with or without the bumps, i was unable to achieve decent scores in robotron using the suzo inductive, so i gave up on them.

[freckleface]

Thanks Robo.  That's the kind of info I'm lookin for...though I will check out those others, hb, thanks.

[u_rebelscum]

Is this stick a hall-effect stick?

Yes

Technically, no.  "Hall Effect" sensors work differently than "inductive" sensors.  The "inductive joystick" uses the latter.  However, the are very similar in that they use magnets and how they effect the flow of electricity. 

FWIW, hall effect is based on that more electrons go to one side or the other of a conductive plate, perpendicular to the flow of electricity, depending of the strength and direction of a magnetic field perpendicular to the plate (IOW, imagine a plate on the screen with the current flowing from top to bottom, electrons turn left or right if there's a magnetic field going into the screen).  Inductive sensors work on that a magnetic material effects an oscillating current (IOW, the sensor creates its own magnetic field with a oscillating current, and measures any interaction with any external magnetic material).

[Fozzy The Bear]

FWIW, hall effect is based on that more electrons go to one side or the other of a conductive plate, perpendicular to the flow of electricity, depending of the strength and direction of a magnetic field perpendicular to the plate (IOW, imagine a plate on the screen with the current flowing from top to bottom, electrons turn left or right if there's a magnetic field going into the screen).  Inductive sensors work on that a magnetic material effects an oscillating current (IOW, the sensor creates its own magnetic field with a oscillating current, and measures any interaction with any external magnetic material).

Net Result: Exactly the same as far as the end user is concerned.... Which is why I didn't bother typing anything but :Yes! to the question. But thanks for the encyclopedia definition anyway.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

[freckleface]

Well, thank you both.  Sounds like they approach from opposite ends, electro-magnetism being what it is.

[u_rebelscum]

Net Result: Exactly the same as far as the end user is concerned.... Which is why I didn't bother typing anything but :Yes! to the question.

Err, if we're talking "net result ... to the end user": 
Hall effect sticks (AFA the ones in the arcade) are analog, while the inductive (& optical perfect360) sticks are digital (8/4-way).  This makes the net result to the end user very different between hall effect & inductive sticks.  OTOH, the net results to user between inductive & optical are the same.  Would you answer 'yes' to "Does inductive = optical?", or "Blu-Ray = HD-DVD", or "microswitch = leafswitch"?

IOW, the short answer is "No".

But thanks for the encyclopedia definition anyway.

Come on, wikipedia, man! (Inductive, Hall Effect)

...Sounds like they approach from opposite ends, electro-magnetism being what it is.

Close enough, but highly simplified.

[davieboynj]

Level42 also has a few threads about them as his ultimate goal would be to mate with one and reproduce.

 

I was able to get great scores in time pilot with these joys, and my shmups got a lot better as well.  But then again, I'm not a Robotron Nut. 

[Level42]

Thanks.  I'm guessing it connects more like a P360 vs a microswitch stick. Anyone have one of these?

Yes, but I haven't hooked them up yet.    It shouldn't be a problem, though as plenty of people around here use them. People that like them usually love them. Do a search for Suzo Inductive and you will find much more info on them. Kowal has a thread for a mod he did on them. Level42 also has a few threads about them as his ultimate goal would be to mate with one and reproduce.

Mmmm, mating with them is a bit too much, but reproducing them........mmmmmmm