Required buttons for a 4-player control panel?

[melarky]

I've been searching the forums for a while and I can't seem to find the answer to this (but I know others must have asked this before me).  What are the required buttons for a 4-player control panel (really, how many buttons for player 3 and 4)?

I have seen many example 4 player control panels in the project announcements forum, and many of them have 6-7 buttons for the 3rd and 4th player, but I was pretty sure no 3 and 4 player games used that many (I thought it was either 3 or 4 buttons needed).  Can anyone confirm this?

This panel is not for me, I'm building it for a friend (I personally don't like the 4 player panels, too much going on, but he's convinced it's the way to go).  I can only think of a handful of 4 player games that even exist, so I'm not sure if there are some games that will use all 6-7 buttons for player 3 and 4 that I'm missing, so I thought I better ask before I get too far into planning the layout for his control panel.

[CheffoJeffo]

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=49778.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,37696.0.html

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,38445.0.html

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=58164.0

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=8448.0

Cheers

[DarkDraco]

could always try the slikstik layout for different game types
http://www.slikstik.com/quadfeatures.htm

[steveh]

why does the slickstick have 7 buttons for players 3 and 4?   are there any games that would ever use those buttons?  or does it do that just to be fancy?

[dirt]

why does the slickstick have 7 buttons for players 3 and 4?   are there any games that would ever use those buttons?  or does it do that just to be fancy?

no games that i know of use more than 4 buttons for players 3 and 4. i guess its just eye candy.

[FrizzleFried]

I also don't like how angled P3 and P4 are on the SlickStick... I can only imagine it makes it somewhat difficult to play at those player positions.

[DarkDraco]

the reason 3 and 4 have 7 buttons is so that when your playing 2 player on some games you can use the middle 2 controllers and if your playing another type of game you can use the outer controls without losing buttons.

[steveh]

what game would require you to stand at different locations on the cp?   the only thing i could get from it is if the players wanted to stand further apart.

[DarkDraco]

dunno, each game in the slikstik CP config file are setup differently or somethin. i dont have my CP yet so i dunno

[needlesmcgirk]

What games actually use 4 buttons for player 3 and 4?

[DarkDraco]

hmmm, maybe play other emulators on the arcade sticks? o.O but then there wont be enough buttons. who knows.

[ahofle]

What games actually use 4 buttons for player 3 and 4?

You can find answers to these types of questions at MAWS (use the 'deluxe search'):
http://www.mameworld.net/maws/

Here's what MAWS spits out for 4 simultaneous players and 4 buttons each (1st of 3 pages):

    arabiamu     Arabian Magic (Ver 1.0A 1992/07/06)     Taito America Corporation     1992     .037b11     Fighter / 2.5D
   arabiamj    Arabian Magic (Ver 1.0J 1992/07/06)    Taito Corporation    1992    .037b11    Fighter / 2.5D
   arabianm    Arabian Magic (Ver 1.0O 1992/07/06)    Taito Corporation Japan    1992    .037b11    Fighter / 2.5D
   blzntrnd    Blazing Tornado    Human Amusement    1994    .037b13    Sports / Wrestling
   cyclwarr    Cycle Warriors    Tatsumi    1991    .087u1    Fighter / Misc.
   dungenmu    Dungeon Magic (Ver 2.1A 1994/02/18)    Taito America Corporation    1993    .061    Maze / Fighter
   dungeonm    Dungeon Magic (Ver 2.1O 1994/02/18)    Taito Corporation Japan    1993    .061    Maze / Fighter
   ddsoma    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Asia 960619)    Capcom    1996    .055    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomr3    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Euro 960208)    Capcom    1996    .106u10    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomr2    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Euro 960209)    Capcom    1996    .099u07    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomr1    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Euro 960223)    Capcom    1996    .055    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsom    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Euro 960619)    Capcom    1996    .071u2    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomjr1    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Japan 960206)    Capcom    1996    .037b15    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomj    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (Japan 960619)    Capcom    1996    .053    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomur1    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (USA 960209)    Capcom    1996    .037b15    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddsomu    Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara (USA 960619)    Capcom    1996    .059    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtoda    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (Asia 940113)    Capcom    1993    .037b12    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtodr1    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (Euro 940113)    Capcom    1993    .096u3    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtod    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (Euro 940412)    Capcom    1993    .056    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtodh    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (Hispanic 940125)    Capcom    1993    .059    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtodjr1    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (Japan 940113)    Capcom    1993    .037b12    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtodj    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (Japan 940125)    Capcom    1993    .086u2    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtodur1    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (USA 940113)    Capcom    1993    .037b12    Fighter / 2.5D
   ddtodu    Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom (USA 940125)    Capcom    1993    .037b12    Fighter / 2.5D
   hthero93    Hat Trick Hero '93 (Ver 1.0J 1993/02/28)    Taito Corporation    1993    .037b11    Sports / Soccer

[Bleagh]

You'll need 5 for Guilty Gear Isuka.  Much fun with 4 players!

[steveh]

You'll need 5 for Guilty Gear Isuka.  Much fun with 4 players!

that is not listed on klov

[Bleagh]

You'll need 5 for Guilty Gear Isuka.  Much fun with 4 players!

that is not listed on klov

Alot of newer games aren't.

I run the pc port on my machine.