Author Topic: New WinIPAC and UltraMap software. Testers wanted! (Read 4737 times)

AndyWarne · « **on:** January 31, 2007, 08:20:10 am »

I have new versions of WinIPAC (for I-PAC etc) and UltraMap (for UltraStik 360) software.

WinIPAC:
www.ultimarc.com/winipac_1_2_14.exe
Changes are:

Vista compatible (athough the prog still stores IPC files in the app folder which is technically illegal in Vista but I thought changing this would cause confusion).

On the subject of Vista see my "Vista Rant" on the Everything Else Forum!

Attempts to workaround the issue which Windows has with the registry when moving USB devices from one port to another. (the older version worked around this until next reboot only). Microsoft have finally fixed this problem properly in Vista incidentally.

UltraMap
www.ultimarc.com/UltraMap_1_1_17.exe
Changes are:

Vista compatible (but with app folder storage for now, as in WinIPAC)

Eliminates issue with sticks being lost after a reboot.

Contains a map for "mouse pointer" mode which was introduced in firmware 2.1

When used with firmware 2.2, in command-line mode (as in a front-end), maps are downloaded to temporary RAM only, so that the permanent map contained in Flash will be reverted after reboot. In GUI mode maps are still permanently stored, and in command-line mode there is a /Flash switch for permanent storage. Firmware 2.2 is not fully tested yet but will be available soon.

Firmware update prevents update when more than one stick connected. Updating must be done one-at-a-time.

Let me know of any issues by email: andy@ultimarc.com

2600 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:05:39 am »

I must of missed the announcement, where's firmware 2.1?

fatfingers · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:27:30 am »

Hi Andy,

Any timeframe on when you need this tested by? I'm interested in the UltraMap testing because I will need to support this new version for my MaLa plugin, but I'm not sure when I will have enough time to dedicate to the testing. $:-\$

Thanks!

AndyWarne · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:37:11 am »

Forgot to mention one important point, the older version must be uninstalled before installing the new, as the new version uses a different installer and the old installer might try to re-install it.
I had to switch to a new installer as the MS one does not allow registry key deletion, wich I needed to do to clear out the old entries.

Firmware version 2.1 was announced on here but will have 2.2 ready in a few days.

I don't really have any specific deadline for testing...

Andy

squirrellydw · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2007, 10:10:37 am »

I only saw version 1.7 on the site, what am I missing?

Aurich · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2007, 02:01:22 pm »

Ok, no luck here.

I downloaded the new installer. Then I uninstalled the old UltraMap (this is WinXP). Ran the new installer. It asked to install something (Visual Basic 6 I think) which I said yes to. Finished installing. Ran UltraMap. Wouldn't see my UltraStiks. Rebooted. Tried plugging and unplugging the USB, tried one at a time etc. Nothing. Uninstalled new UltraMap and ran the old installer. Everything works fine now, sticks show up fine.

squirrellydw · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2007, 02:18:38 pm »

Andy, do you just have a section on your site for downloads, such as firmware, programs, etc? I always have to click around to find it. A downloads section would be great.

thanks

destructor · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2007, 02:23:02 pm »

Quote from: squirrellydw on January 31, 2007, 02:18:38 pm

Andy, do you just have a section on your site for downloads, such as firmware, programs, etc? I always have to click around to find it. A downloads section would be great.

thanks

I think it's very clear on Ultimarc site.

ahofle · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2007, 02:36:38 pm »

http://ultimarc.com/download.html

squirrellydw · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2007, 02:44:10 pm »

Quote from: ahofle on January 31, 2007, 02:36:38 pm

http://ultimarc.com/download.html

never saw that before

QuixoteQuest · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2007, 03:20:20 pm »

I've been playing with this new stuff over the last couple of weeks as Andy has been working through some bugs I've been having on my system with the UltraStiks. The product certainly not been plug and play, but what's the draw of this hobby if it doesn't require some tinkering? But now, Andy, you can count on me continuing to share feedback and test.

Aurich · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2007, 04:19:47 pm »

Ok, I lied, all is not fine. After the new software didn't work and I reverted back to the old one things are broken.

UltraMap sees the sticks as plugged in even when they aren't, and when I try to load a map I get an error 0xF, failed to transmit data to UltraStik.

Aurich · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2007, 06:22:45 pm »

Ok, using a hint from another thread from Andy I deleted the sticks out of the device manager and tried the new software again. It was really flakey, i had to keep trying, and messing with the IDs, and just bang on it for a while. I got one pretty fast which encouraged me to mess with it till they both were responding.

Then UltraMap BSODs.

Then I had some funny issues with some directions not working on the sticks. Switching back to the analog map then back again seems to have fixed that.

I'm up and running now, Mala is working with the plug-in, seems ok. I can't say the experience was that great, and the BSOD makes me a little wary.

AndyWarne · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2007, 08:29:00 am »

All of the above problems should be fixed in this version: www.ultimarc.com/UltraMap_1_1_18.exe
Andy

Donkey_Kong · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2007, 10:32:18 am »

These sticks can be sensitive. However, when you get them rocking just right they can't be beat! I think of it as a modded out to the gills race car versus a stock race car. The mod is gonna need a little more TLC right? The mod is also gonna give you the most thrill cause it is loaded with titillation!!

Andy- I been too busy to test any of this new firmware etc. I almost feel bad about it. Well looks like some of these doods got your back though. Keep trucking bro and don't ever stop tweaking on this stuff...I would get really bored and have to search for a different hobby or something.

Aurich · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2007, 12:47:31 pm »

Quote from: AndyWarne on February 02, 2007, 08:29:00 am

All of the above problems should be fixed in this version: www.ultimarc.com/UltraMap_1_1_18.exe
Andy

Note that the installer still references 1.1.17 when you run it.

Seems to work fine. But I haven't had any issues once I got things working previously.

One thing I can't seem to get to work is to get Mala to recognize my second stick as Joystick 2 (in the actual Mala GUI, works just fine inside of MAME), any ideas about how the stick might be seen by Windows with id#2? Not sure if it's a Mala problem or an UltraStik one.

AndyWarne · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2007, 01:04:28 pm »

If you go into Control Panel, Game Controllers, you should have "Player 1" and "Player 2" devices shown there if the IDs are correctly assigned.
Andy

Aurich · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2007, 02:44:19 pm »

Ya, they've always shown up fine there, I'm guessing it's a Mala issue.

fatfingers · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2007, 04:46:44 pm »

Quote from: Aurich on February 02, 2007, 02:44:19 pm

Ya, they've always shown up fine there, I'm guessing it's a Mala issue.

Do you have both joysticks selected in the MaLa Controllers Tab?

squirrellydw · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:02:05 pm »

ignore me, my bad

Aurich · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:07:08 pm »

Quote from: fatfingers on February 02, 2007, 04:46:44 pm

Do you have both joysticks selected in the MaLa Controllers Tab?

Ya, and when I go to the Check tab #2's circles are greyed out. If I mess with the "set" dropdown or whatever I can make it so joystick #2 takes over and #1 does nothing, so I know it 'sees' it on some level. But I can't use both, so that #2 can scroll or anything.

fatfingers · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2007, 05:53:27 pm »

Quote from: Aurich on February 02, 2007, 05:07:08 pm

Quote from: fatfingers on February 02, 2007, 04:46:44 pm
Do you have both joysticks selected in the MaLa Controllers Tab?

Ya, and when I go to the Check tab #2's circles are greyed out. If I mess with the "set" dropdown or whatever I can make it so joystick #2 takes over and #1 does nothing, so I know it 'sees' it on some level. But I can't use both, so that #2 can scroll or anything.

Well, we probably should have long ago moved this into another thread, but...

What version of MaLa? I seem to remember there being an issue recognizing the joysticks in RC7 or something like that.

Aurich · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2007, 08:18:11 pm »

Nope RC8, the current one.

fatfingers · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2007, 09:13:41 am »

I have seen this happen, but usually it is both of my checkboxes that become disabled. Usually I exit mala, use UltraMap to apply maps to the joysticks, and then run MaLa again. That usually seems to do the trick.

Aurich · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2007, 12:00:06 pm »

Hmm, so are you saying that you can use both UltraStiks in Mala now? For instance I'd like the left stick to scroll normally and the right to scroll in X increments.

fatfingers · « **Reply #25 on:** February 03, 2007, 12:07:29 pm »

I'm pretty sure I had that working. I'd test it for you to be sure, but my stick 2 seems to have died when I upgraded firmware.

Aurich · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2007, 01:03:51 pm »

Died as in the LED won't light, or you just can't get it to show up in UltraMap?

Try unplugging the working stik first. Then plug in the broken one. Can you see it in the HID manager? If so uninstall, unplug, plug, then fire up UltraMap again. Try it a few times if that doesn't work, I've found I have to bang on it a bit sometimes after a firmware upgrade...

fatfingers · « **Reply #27 on:** February 03, 2007, 01:17:15 pm »

Died as in the LED light won't light up.


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